Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
You think God cares about how he looks to unbelievers? Really?
Nope. But, apparently, god believers do care.
I wonder why.
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You think God cares about how he looks to unbelievers? Really?
Maybe you don't understand the nature of time. Time is just an illusion. Please watch this short video.Can you answer what or who caused the beginning of the Universe? That's the best evidence to prove that the Primal Cause caused the Universe to begin. Now, if you were of the kind of atheists that deny a beginning for the Universe, I could no longer use that as an evidence for the existence of God. But I still can use Logic to prove that you are wrong.
Yes, this information is 100% correct. The standing waves are the real particles. Virtual particles are just short-lived random vacuum fluctuations in the quantum field that sometimes just happen to have an influence on real particles.
I can't make any sense of this article. Here is another article that is much more informative. Virtual Particles: What are they?Standing waves are waves which appear to be particles.
Virtual mass is created by vacuum fluctuations in the Quantum and Higgs Fields, according to this:
It’s confirmed: Matter is merely vacuum fluctuations
..which accounts for 100% of the mass of the atom.
Two laws we cannot escape or dodge.....scientifically proven.
1. "All life comes from pre-existing life". Life is always the cause of more life. Life cannot spontaneously pop into into existence by itself.
2. "Cause and effect". Whatever effect we see, has a cause. Nothing comes from nothing.
First off, that's not remotely true, we know that life "spontaneously popped into existence by itself" at some point in time. But even so, you're just describing what breaks religion, you cannot have a "first cause" "pop life spontaneously into existence" and keep this "law" as true.
Which conveniently leaves out gods.
You can't state a law and then make up an exception to that law.
Yes I do...do you?Do you read what you post first?
Sure.Can you answer what or who caused the beginning of the Universe?
Except you are assuming there was a primal cause in the first place.That's the best evidence to prove that the Primal Cause caused the Universe to begin.
How can One deny something that has not been shown true?Now, if you were of the kind of atheists that deny a beginning for the Universe
It is just as much evidence that batman did it....I could no longer use that as an evidence for the existence of God.
wrong about what?But I still can use Logic to prove that you are wrong.
Maybe because it's our job to spread the word that a judgment is coming that will change the world and eliminate from existence all who reject the Creator and his rules. Perhaps there may be a change of heart on the part of some, as has been the case many times. People from all backgrounds have turned their lives around and made themselves acceptable to the Creator.....he won't force anyone, but just invites them. Some accept the invitation and are grateful for the prospect of everlasting life in a better world. It costs us nothing, but gives us something no amount of money can buy.Nope. But, apparently, god believers do care.
I wonder why.
Who says life came from nothing?Really? Can you tell me of any scientific experiment that produced life from nothing?
Source please.Science knows that ALL life comes from pre-existing life.
Still waiting on theists to produce their gods...The only thing that prevents them from believing in creation is their pet theory....one that eliminates a "first cause" of life altogether.
Abiogeneticists haven't managed to produced life in a lab at all, have they?
Not difficult to eliminate something that has nothing but wishful thinking to support it.Who said anything about gods? We only need one Creator. Science just hasn't figured out a way to quantify him yet. It is easier to eliminate him rather than to try and figure out who or what he is.
Examples please.Why not? Science does.
It costs us nothing, but gives us something no amount of money can buy.
But something caused the infinite being to create the world, so there was a cause to the First Cause. It's only logical. Were it not so, then you would have to admit that something comes from nothing.
Who says life came from nothing?
I mean, other than you in your above question...
Source please.
And I mean a science source, not Watchtower, not the Bible, a science source that makes that claim.
And no, "common sense" is not a science claim.
Still waiting on theists to produce their gods...
Not difficult to eliminate something that has nothing but wishful thinking to support it.
Examples please.
I guess some people get off on that feeling of justified self-righteousness. Not for me, but I wish you luck in your judging.
Can you tell me of any scientific experiment that produced life from nothing?
God is the originator of science, hence all scientific principles come from him. What principles affect matter, do not affect non-matter. God is an entity, but not a physical one, hence, no amount of science pertaining to matter can apply to him.A spirit/deity/god is invisible by definition. It cannot be proven; and, it isn't science dictated.
The first cause can't depend on a specific religion. It has to be universal because it would be a fact and science is the same regardless of where one is in the world. Religion is not like that.
God is a spirit, but he is certainly not "nothing". Einstein proved thatIf you say god/entity/spirit is the first-cause and then say something can't pop from nothing, to me that is a contradiction. We cannot prove scientifically that god/deity/entity is material like you and I to create life. So, it's "invisible"; it's, roughly saying, "nothing." Nothing can't create nothing. Something invisible can't create something visible and visa versa.
Now, I believe in spirits too. I also believe they interact and are a part of us and in us just as you believe the holy spirit interacts with you and is a part of you as god in christ. However, to say either of these as the first cause as in your case described in the bible contradicts your post that says "something can't come from nothing."
No....everything came from someone. I think you have that all wrong. Cause and effect says there must be a cause for every effect. Science cannot produce one.....we can. Its all in a book preserved down through time so that we can know about this spirit God by his creations and by his actions towards humans.In the bible, something did come from nothing. It came from a spirit or force or however named that formed the universe and life.
Just know that it is odd to say the spirit or force or god which is invisible and by definition not physical can create something but on the other hand say reality on our turf nothing/something invisible can't create something invisible/nothing. Then, to add, say your religion is a fact when the sentence before this one doesn't support religion as a fact only a belief based on the culture, traditions, and practices of a given people and area not universal knowledge as a whole.
Kinda get it?
God is the originator of science, hence all scientific principles come from him. What principles affect matter, do not affect non-matter. God is an entity, but not a physical one, hence, no amount of science pertaining to matter can apply to him.
If you know the Bible's story, you can see clearly where religion originated. From Genesis to Revelation is one story. It starts in one location and finishes in a global situation with God having his message declared to people of all nations and faiths....some will listen. (Matthew 24:14)
God is a spirit, but he is certainly not "nothing". Einstein proved that
God has the power to create matter.
That is not the same as saying "nothing can't create nothing". Someone created everything! He is just not a material being. His power is not measurable by man.
Spirits inhabit the same realm as the Creator. If they were material beings, they would die in his presence, as God told Moses. ("No man may see me and yet live".) We humans cannot even begin to contemplate "what" this infinite being is....only THAT he is. (Romans 1:18-23)
No....everything came from someone. I think you have that all wrong. Cause and effect says there must be a cause for every effect. Science cannot produce one.....we can. Its all in a book preserved down through time so that we can know about this spirit God by his creations and by his actions towards humans.
I do, but not quite the way you paint it.
Yes, there was something that caused the Creator to create....."love". It is his cardinal quality. This has nothing to do with the cause of the "First Cause" however. As an infinite being, he has always existed. I appreciate that this is hard for finite creatures to comprehend this.
Everything he does is motivated by love. It is the very reason why he doesn't force his intelligent creation to serve him. He allows them to choose or to reject him. As an All-Powerful being, he could snuff us out in a heartbeat, but love tempers all his other attributes......he shows us his qualities and allows us to judge him by his creation. I personally love what I see....you may not.
To win God's good pleasure is to attain union with Him.
Sure. It was batman. Interestingly enough, I have just as much evidence to show it was batman as there is it was God(s). Except you are assuming there was a primal cause in the first place. How can One deny something that has not been shown true? It is just as much evidence that batman did it....wrong about what?