Terrywoodenpic
Oldest Heretic
So you think the millions of Trump voters are ignorant.
I thought that that was self evident. Either ignorant or self serving or both. But not necessarily stupid.
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So you think the millions of Trump voters are ignorant.
I thought that that was self evident. Either ignorant or self serving or both. But not necessarily stupid.
The Democrat party does not like the Constitution, but rather tries to change/interpret it in ways to increase government control; moving back toward a monarchy state that can lord over the peasants and serfs; big government and the regulatory and welfare states. The regulatory state takes away power from the people; they are not elected but appointed by the overlords.
Canada is more free than the US.Please do stay there...
However, your application of giving statistics of crime and relating it to Trump and democracy is a fallacy.
I also believe that for the reason of security we relinquish the responsibility of liberty is wrong. Thus you may be secure but with less freedom. Try going against the "speech control" and see what happens to you.
I am happy to live with freedom here with its responsibilities than being in subjection in Canada for the benefit of security. Personal responsibility.
(Actually, I have no issue with Canada. It is your presentation and constant berating of our country - the proverbial - pulling out our splinter in our eye while you don't behold the mote in yours)
Please do stay there...
However, your application of giving statistics of crime and relating it to Trump and democracy is a fallacy.
I also believe that for the reason of security we relinquish the responsibility of liberty is wrong. Thus you may be secure but with less freedom. Try going against the "speech control" and see what happens to you.
I am happy to live with freedom here with its responsibilities than being in subjection in Canada for the benefit of security. Personal responsibility.
(Actually, I have no issue with Canada. It is your presentation and constant berating of our country - the proverbial - pulling out our splinter in our eye while you don't behold the mote in yours)
It doesn't need to be in a USA section as it is about "Political movement" so, in essence, it still qualifies.You are not in the USA section of this forum. It doesn't exists. Further we are not even in North American Politics. So your we is not relevant for all humans for all versions of freedom and liberty. Neither is mine, but you believe you are a we that is not there. I don't believe in that we.
It doesn't need to be in a USA section as it is about "Political movement" so, in essence, it still qualifies.
Of course it isn't relevant to all people since all people don't have the same perspective. If you perspective is different it will become irrelevant to you.
Is there a point here?
Would you like a moderator to move it to North American Politics?
Both city & suburban.Do you like city, suburban or rural life?
We're both wrong. I thought there had been two, but the reality is that there was only one:I believe they are one in the same. (I think)
I don't use such labels, and there's no doubt more than one reason why one would still support Trump even though we know in general what he was up to and why. Even his sister and niece has said as such, and the former he says he's the closest to than any other person. If you want to believe and support such a person after all he's done, then there's a serious problem somewhere.So you think the millions of Trump voters are ignorant.
So, do you think we should just turn our backs on those in need? Since I assume not, what do you think we should do?I really don't see relevance here, not to mention it doesn't take into account the millions that are pouring through the southern border.
No, not at all.So, do you think we should just turn our backs on those in need? Since I assume not, what do you think we should do?
No, not at all.
I think that open borders are not the answer. as if that is the answer or a cure. All that will do is bring everybody to a poverty status and then we can help on one. United States has been and is the nation that receives the most immigrants.
Overall I think the VAST majority are pro-legal immigration. So I do subscribe to "legal immigration" vs "anyone who can reach the borders and cross the River Grande" is automatically accepted. (Including drugs, criminals, gangs and whosoever".
A more comprehensive answer is to help the other nations prosper. Invest in those nations so that people have hope and opportunity (even as we let others in).
Like some coffee companies who organize independent and family growers in Latin countries and not only pay the people good monies for their products but help build schools and other supportive businesses.
Like a US tomato company that opened a business in Mexico and not only paid them good wages but gave them housing and education.
You can bet they are happy to live in their country when their needs are met.
And Democrats in general, and Biden & Harris in particular, are not proposing that. Nor do I. So, why bring it up? Have you let the right-wing sounding board get to you?I think that open borders are not the answer.
And polls definitely suggest that.Overall I think the VAST majority are pro-legal immigration
I agree, but then why did Trump withdraw all aid to the Northern Triangle Countries? He could have worked through charities, including religious charities there, but didn't.A more comprehensive answer is to help the other nations prosper. Invest in those nations so that people have hope and opportunity (even as we let others in).
Absolutely, I agree.You can bet they are happy to live in their country when their needs are met.
I don't use such labels, and there's no doubt more than one reason why one would still support Trump even though we know in general what he was up to and why. Even his sister and niece has said as such, and the former he says he's the closest to than any other person. If you want to believe and support such a person after all he's done, then there's a serious problem somewhere.
BTW, the January 6th Committee's next hearing is today at 1 e.t.
It is an investigative committee, not a prosecutorial one.The biggest problem with those hearings is they continue to deny the accused, from Trump down, due process.
No, it clearly is not that at all, and how did you come up with the idea that they already had drawn conclusions? Evidence, please?It is political theatre that is closer to what is expected from China and third world dictatorships; go through the motions with conclusions already drawn in advance. It is not a Constitutional exercise found in a free country. It is closer to monarchy rule.
Correct, but that is likely to happen soon.If you notice, they have not sent this to the Attorney General to be prosecuted.
Nope, it's Bennie Thompson.Schiff is also head of this committee.
False, which is why the impeachment did include some Republicans.The two impeachments were really about Biden, who was caught on video bragging about a quid pro quo with Ukraine
Again false, as Mueller stated that this was not something he would pursue.This was turned around onto Trump, like the Russian Collusion.
It is an investigative committee, not a prosecutorial one.
No, it clearly is not that at all, and how did you come up with the idea that they already had drawn conclusions? Evidence, please?
We now know in general what happened on Junuary 6th and why with the statements from Bannon and numerous others, so the only questions now deal with some of the details.
Correct, but that is likely to happen soon.
Nope, it's Bennie Thompson.
False, which is why the impeachment did include some Republicans.
Again false, as Mueller stated that this was not something he would pursue.
BTW, there certainly was Trump contacts with some Russian leaders, including Putin in private conversation, which is also shown by the fact that Trump asked after a rally of his in 2016 for Putin to release Hillary's e-mails that happened that same exact evening.
So, have you watched these hearings? Have you listened to the testimony of so many of the Trump appointees?
It has been seeking the full truth, which is why most who are testifying were appointed by Trump.If it was a legitimate investigative committee, they would seek the whole truth. That is called due process and is part of the US Constitution. One sided half truth is not American but what is used by dictatorships and tyrants all through history.
That has been looked into, and we have yet to see whereas this may go. You are assuming guilt, which is against our basic constitutional principles.Mueller, for example, never addressed Hunter Biden who had business dealings with Russia, China and Ukraine, that all implicated the Biden family; access to Biden sr
Again, two court cases has shown this to be sheer nonsense unless something else shows up. Again, you are assuming her guilt, which is frankly unAmerican.Everyone knew Hillary Clinton's role in the fake dossier during the Russian Collusion Coup.
He was impeached in a bipartisan decision!!! However, he wasn't removed along party lines.They knew they did not have the votes to impeach Trump, so these became biased show trials, to create political damage to Trump;
Again, you are taking an unAmerican position.After the midterms, unless they can steal the midterms, the swamp criminals will be on the flip side.
I agree, but even many Pubs well know that the greatest threat is form the Trump camp. What do you think they were trying to do on January 6th that even Bannon called in advance???Lack of due process is how you destroy a Democracy. If those in positions of power can do that to duly elected leaders, you and I have no chance. This will be a turning point back to Democracy.