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Featured 2070 Christs glorious return

Discussion in 'Biblical Debates' started by Kemosloby, Oct 31, 2016.

  1. rational experiences

    rational experiences Well-Known Member

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    Christ as a teaching never left.

    CH are scientific descriptions of angled themes in science. For and about science. Gases don't name themselves. Rist..rose...a rose from God O planets stone body.

    A teaching about science.

    If you quote as a human science was converting stone God as a product. Is just being a man human thinking. Was attacked in a phenomena satanic description yet survived claiming saved,........

    A body mass in heavens was removed.

    As heavens spirit gases are multi named by man in science.

    We lost one body of mass.

    Moses 40 law broken by man said sacrificed loss of life new born babies written thesis data documented science. Old science cause when converting God mass. As stone products.

    World community says yes we all own similar documented reasoning. Historic told in many countries history. Pyramid temple science cause.

    Jesus a compared summation against old data said 33 age loss. Moses 40 years life lost.

    Meaning seven the variable body mass of gases removed. In the summation. From past to present.

    Mass lost. A body mass of spirit. Gases.

    The summation said reason mutated exodus genetics returned historic by asteroid wandering star gas release. Over a long time period. Allowed life mutation to heal.

    Which stated evolved DNA from mutation evolved psyche also. Mind hearing recorded science speaking memories. Rebuilt temple. Rebuilt pyramids damaged. Re used science convert of Sion.

    Got attacked again.

    Proving mass was gone. The body heavens. Proving science did it before.

    Science memory reason space expanded or got bigger. Space as hole thinking.

    Science the inventor of space. Holes. Why their AI fed back thesis is about space. As science is only invention.

    Machine.
    Machine designed.
    Machine controlled and operated to react only by human controller. Has no ownership in natural creation in its history.
     
  2. TrueBeliever37

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    My thoughts regarding Ephesians 1:20 is that it also has to tie in with the verse where the Messiah said "Destroy this temple and in three days, I will raise it up." There is only one God - an eternal Spirit that didn't have flesh and blood to shed for man's sins. So he made himself a body to dwell in and sacrifice , and he called that body his Son. But it was God dwelling in that body - It wasn't two separate persons - It was flesh and Spirit. It was like he said I and my Father are one. The flesh didn't have all power initially - it was weak like us. But after the sinless life was lived and the sacrifice was accomplished, the Spirit raised the body up as an eternal glorified spiritual body with all power in heaven and in earth. He ascended and took the throne of God to rule forever.

    My thoughts regarding Philippians 2:9 - If you will study it out, you will find that Jesus is not really the name of the Messiah. His name, the name the angel told Mary to name him was actually YHWSH. (The same name that the one we call Joshua the successor to Moses was given.) His name means YHWH is salvation or YHWH saves. The Jews substituted adonai (which translates as LORD in our language ) for the name of YHWH many times in the old testament. (Because they claimed his name was too holy to pronounce and didn't want to use it in vain) But the translators at least tried to let us know when this was done by using LORD with capital letters. Unfortunately they didn't continue to use the capital letters in the new testament to let us know when God's name was replaced.

    Now - If you will notice the Messiah was never referred to as "Lord Jesus"
    until after the resurrection. If you will replace the word Lord with YHWH, and Jesus with his true name YHWSH, you will see what the apostles called him after the resurrection. He had already been given the name YHWSH at birth. The name he inherited that was above all names is the name YHWH. Because that is who he really was. And as the scripture says - Every knee will bow and every tongue confess that YHWSH is YHWH. (Oh I know our versions say Jesus is Lord, but I am talking about the truth of the matter.)
     
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    Moses after the event carbon combustion result to earth mass. Garden forest as the wilderness in desert garden left removed by number equated attack.

    No time dating as carbon is carbon.

    13.000 years of wandering asteroid gas release put back heavenly body.

    As one mass. Law Moses son baby life 40 years proven twice attacked.

    Info.

    Mass over period gases removed instantly from that time span.

    Proof DNA sacrificed ,33 years Jesus.
     
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    Mass present

    Time shift mass to destruction is not time shifting.

    Going back.

    Mass only is present.

    It never naturally existed going back.
     
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    Very convenient. None of us will be alive to point out your error when it doesn't happen. None of the predicted dates for his return have been true. What makes yours so special?
     
  7. Muffled

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    I believe I am not of the opinion that it would take more than 3 hours to get the body of Jesus into a tomb.
     
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    I believe I like 2038 but it could be as late as 2044. I would like to live long enough to find out if it works that way.
     
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    I like how you have been thinking outside the box. However, I believe it may even be much closer than the date you gave.

    To me, the slight inaccuracy you may have in your theory is using the temple destruction in 70 AD as the starting point for the parallel. I tend to think the starting point might still be his actual death. The problem is we don't know for sure exactly when he was born or died. The historical dates from around that time are just not that precise. For example there are a range of years given for his actual birth. And there is some debate as to whether he taught for one year (I think it's because of the phrase in Luke 4:19) or 3 years. (maybe it's 3 1/2 years - I can't remember for sure whether they think it's 3 or 3 1/2 years)

    Think about it - he died for all men. So why not use his death as the starting point for the parallel involving our resurrection - instead of 70 AD?

    But anyway - interesting post.
     
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    Mark 13:32, ". . . of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. . . ."
     
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    Right, but he didn't give an actual day or hour in his post. Neither did I in my post. But the scriptures also teach that God's people are not in darkness, that that day should come upon us like a thief. 1 Thessalonians 5:4 We might not know the exact day or hour, be we might be able to know the general time frame involved. And he did give us signs to look for in his word of what things would be like at his coming.

    Also just fyi - that part in the verse you gave where it says "neither the Son" may not actually be original. There is some disagreement as to whether that was actually there. And it is also not stated that way in Matthew 24:36 (Not trying to argue this - just wanted to point it out.)
     
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    Two issues. Mark 13:32, indeed does no say anything about a year. Jesus explains, "neither the Son" saying before His ascension, "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power." -- Acts 1:7. The Father and Son are distinct Persons. It is the Son not the Father who limits His omniscience. In Genesis 22:12, says, "now I know." John 1:18, appearing to Abraham.
     
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    First, you’re not a recognized prophet. Second, this reeks of Q Anon “logic.”
     
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    I don't believe in two different persons that are both God. That would be belief in more than one God.

    The Father is the eternal Spirit of God, and the Son is the fleshly body that God took on. But God is not two or three different persons. He was a Spirit that didn't have flesh and blood to shed for our sins. So he made himself a fleshly body to dwell in and sacrifice. He called that body his Son, but it wasn't another person. God himself was dwelling in that body.
     
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    I believe however that is not what He said. He said you would see a sign in heaven.
     
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    You say they are two distinct persons. Where as he said : I and my Father are one. John 10:30 and He that hath SEEN me hath SEEN the Father. John 14:9 (etc.)
     
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    Yes. They are the same God, but are not the same Persons. Remeber Luke 3:21-22 and Luke 9:35.
     
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    If you believe in multiple different persons that are each God, then you believe in multiple Gods.

    God's Spirit fills the heaven and the earth. If he chooses to say something about the fleshly body, that doesn't mean it is another person.
     
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    No. I only believe in One God. Deuteronomy 6:4. 1 Corinthans 8:6. Do you not know the Son is the True Light in the same way God His Father is the True God? John 1:9, John 17:3. Isaiah 43:10-11. Titus 1:4, ". . . peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour." You have a huge hole in your understanding. They are distinct Persons, but they are one and the same God. There is only One God.

    Yes, God is omnipresent and His Son is how God appears locally to men, Genesis 12:7, ". . .the LORD appeared unto Abram, . . ." John 1:18, "No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."
     
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    No - I just realize the God of the Old Testament wrapped himself in flesh and shed his blood for our sins. While you think it was another person.

    I, even I, am YHWH; and beside me there is no savior. Isaiah 43:11 Isaiah 45:21
    ...for there is no savior beside me Hosea 13:4

    You are believing in more than one God whether you will admit it or not. Two different persons that are both God is more than one God.
     
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