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Search results for query: "Titus 1:12"

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  1. nPeace

    Suffering and evil

    Perhaps if we check the original word usage 'evil', it will help. EVIL That which results in pain, sorrow, or distress. In order to convey the correct thought in English, the very comprehensive Hebrew word raʽ is variously translated as “bad,” “gloomy,” “ugly,” “evil,” “calamitous,”...
  2. W

    If U think the burden of proof lies on me, then please do refrain posting in this thread.

    Diversions to miss the point? Not very original. And none of those true statements cancel any of the commands given to believers. If you want a summary it's to love God and love your neighbors as you love yourself. Apparently you think those are bad things.
  3. Sheldon

    If U think the burden of proof lies on me, then please do refrain posting in this thread.

    Or you just paraphrased a single woolly platitude from the entire bible, and are pretending this is how all theists think, now which is more likely. (yes that was meant to be rhetorical) In Matt 23:4-36 Jesus derides Pharisees as the vilest of hypocrites. John 8:44, Jesus calls “the Jews” the...
  4. S

    Why the NT is Historically and Theologically not acceptable for Torath Mosheh Jews

    There are helpful truths in extra biblical material without doubt. Not all of those bits should build our understanding-some are deviations from scripture.The book of Enoch mentioning a day is a thousand years has helped rabbis in their exegesis of the Torah, but it is a mixture of truth and...
  5. nPeace

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    1 Corinthians 2:13-3:1 - Paul.
  6. The Reverend Bob

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    So if Cretans are always liars how could Epimenides' testimony be true? Have a gander at Psalm 116:11
  7. BilliardsBall

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Wow, you would have to read a LOT of the NT to have found these verses. Did you cull these from your months of fervent Bible study, or just pick them off a website run by atheists?
  8. T

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Saddle up. We're going to take a ride. In Titus 1:12-13. Paul was quoting the Cretan, Epimenides. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epimenides. The quote has, at since the time of Paul, and possibly earlier been turned into a silly paradox when, in fact, Epimenedes was mocking his fellow Cretans...
  9. David T

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Bob please explain why part of the liars paradox was hijacked and not all of it!!!! They may have done that for a reason actually. I dont think they were idiots writing. Although no present evidence of that really. Well a few are ok! It is a prime example of the nature of written words. Split...
  10. Neutral Name

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Wow! That's crazy. I'm thinking he was manic depressive.
  11. U

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    I find it is context and setting that should be taken into consideration: * In Bible days, (Bible speak, so to speak) in the Greek the word Cretan was synonymous with being liar..... Titus 1:10-12 was Paul speaking from the words of an ancient poet Epimenides of the 6th century BC /BCE. * Yes...
  12. blü 2

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Titus, and 1 and 2 Timothy, are thought to be pseudepigraphs these days ie not by Paul, but never mind. Titus 1 is about appointing elders of the church, how they must be blameless &c &c; and the insubordinate, the empty talkers, the gluttons &c &c must be silenced; so this says, such a person...
  13. Deeje

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Might as well post this here too..... Lets take them one at a time.....keeping in mind that these quotes are taken out of context....and many of these verses are not the whole quote. One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, idle gluttons. This...
  14. Deeje

    Why do Jehovah's Witnesses falsify the Bible?

    Lets take them one at a time.....keeping in mind that these quotes are taken out of context....and many of these verses are not the whole quote. One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, idle gluttons. This testimony is true. Titus 1:12-13 Paul...
  15. Augustus

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    Paul didn't write Timothy or Titus, was some other dude pretending to be Paul
  16. Ellen Brown

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    I have heard discussion about Paul being the author of some of those sayings. Not sure, but I think that Jewish women teach. Paul was a Jew.... The rest of this is an example of why I think that there are errors in interpretation.
  17. The Reverend Bob

    Bizarre Sayings of Paul

    If any of you can explain to us how these examples make any sense I will be grateful for your effort but it should be a rational explanation. Let the weirdness begin. One of themselves, a prophet of their own, said, Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, idle gluttons. This testimony is true...
  18. T

    Liars paradox. Why does it exist in the NT.

    Where did you read the version of "the Thomas narrative" that you're referring to? Here's the only version that I know of, from (the Bible) John 20:24-28: 24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples were saying to him...
  19. siti

    Was Muhammad a Messenger of God?

    OK - so the story of the companions in the cave (Qur'an 18:9-26) is basically a Rip van Winkle type story about some young chaps (the Qur'an version is non-committal about how many) who entered a cave and fell asleep for a long time (the Qur'an version is ambiguous about exactly how long stating...
  20. Jumi

    Trump's moment of radical honesty

    Titus 1:12 seems to think Epimenides is a pagan prophet...
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