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It's Finally Happening....The Language Purge

tytlyf

Not Religious
Private companies can do whatever they want. Renaming items has zero effect on me. If it makes society a better place to live, fine.
You shouldn't focus on the viewpoints of .00001% of the population though. Smells agenda-ish.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
yeah.....we do and say as others around us
and usually give no thought to the word or action

but someone of thin skin boo hoos
and someone thinks of himself as more aware to give heed to the tears
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
On offense, but this would not be a true representation of the said cylinders. Primary/Secondary implies that one might function without the other, maybe as a back up.

Primary/secondary is generally used for things like software versions.

For the specific example of a brake system, I mentioned "control cylinder" (i.e. the thing that takes control inputs) and "actuator" (i.e. the thing that does the intended physical work).

"Master/slave" terminology is often ambiguous, too.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
yeah.....we do and say as others around us
and usually give no thought to the word or action

but someone of thin skin boo hoos
and someone thinks of himself as more aware to give heed to the tears
Seems to me that if there are any thin-skinned people here, it's the ones who are losing their **** at the thought of using slightly more respectful language.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Alternate terms have been used for quite a while; you just didn't notice:


Master/slave (technology) - Wikipedia

Would you really be lost if someone used "primary/secondary" instead of "master/slave?" How about "control cylinder/actuator" instead of "master cylinder/slave cylinder?"

Sure, this change by itself doesn't mean much... but if you're unwilling to do even this small, admittedly token act, it doesn't suggest that there's any hope of you doing anything of substance for real inclusion or equity.

Don't you get it? They as those companies in your link are a case of communistic fascism. They are using their "freedom" to change, how they use their "capitalistic property rights" to do as they want, including how they name, what is "theirs". Don't you understand, they are not doing something libertarian at all?!!

Don't you get it, these "capitalistic companies" are doing something, they shouldn't be allowed to do, because I should be able to demand, that they do as I want, because all that counts, is my freedom.
True freedom is that everybody do as I want them to act. As for the preamble of the Constitution of the USA, We the People means me and my group. That is freedom. I am that kind of Libertarian. Society is me and my group. Everything else is communistic fascism.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
in freshman year i was attending classes at an all boy catholic high school
a 'lay' teacher had been hired for English teaching

he deliberately assigned novels filled with language many would consider to be garbage

he explained.....he cannot rewrite the work to suit the parents of students
and the novels were current and given to sharp point

much would be lost for the lack of reading

Black like Me

the Ugly American
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
and of course....standup comedy

Lewis Black is my favorite.....though here of late he leans to commentary

love that routine in Washington DC
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Don't you get it? They as those companies in your link are a case of communistic fascism. They are using their "freedom" to change, how they use their "capitalistic property rights" to do as they want, including how they name, what is "theirs". Don't you understand, they are not doing something libertarian at all?!!

Don't you get it, these "capitalistic companies" are doing something, they shouldn't be allowed to do, because I should be able to demand, that they do as I want, because all that counts, is my freedom.
True freedom is that everybody do as I want them to act. As for the preamble of the Constitution of the USA, We the People means me and my group. That is freedom. I am that kind of Libertarian. Society is me and my group. Everything else is communistic fascism.
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Over the years, I'd occasionally hear about some university
student discovering & being triggered by the terms "master" &
"slave" applied to technical things, eg, hard drives, cylinders.
(Felix The Cat was the first TV cartoon character. His nemesis
was "The Master Cylinder". I think he lived on the Moon.)

Well, I just heard on NPR that in the interest of avoiding increasingly
"woke" employees, companies are getting rid of such terminology.....
"Blacklisting"
"Slave cylinder", "Slave hard drive"
"Master cylinder", "Master hard drive"
"Male" & "female" connectors

Should we really go crazy, & also rename things
suggesting race, gender, religion, etc?
"Blackjack"
"Black hole"
"Master key"
"Mastermind"
"Masterful"
"John" (prostitute customer, toilet)
"John Marzetti" (school cafeteria offering)
"White noise", "White knight"
"White dwarf" (star type)
"White chocolate"
"White hot"
"Red hot"
"Red Hots" (candy type)
"Mary Janes" (shoe type)
"Jewish lightning" (arson for insurance money)
"Stevedore" (longshoreman)
"Sally forth" (to set out)
"Typhoid Mary"
"Chinese fire drill"
"Chinese water torture"

Suggestions....
"White" becomes "visible broad spectrum electromagnet radiation"
"John" becomes "happy ending customer"
"Black" becomes "light absorbing"
"Red" becomes "longer wavelength than orange, but still visible to humans"
"Infrared" becomes "longer wavelength than orange, but not visible to humans"
"Male" becomes "outie".
"Female" becomes "innie".

How far must it go to keep woke people from being triggered?
I need more examples!

Well, I get it. You won the words and the culture that produces them. As a libertarian you can't allow people they ability to decide how they as a group or individuals how they act.
They are not allowed to be triggered, because that is not what freedom means. I do get it.

Do you get what you are doing?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Over the years, I'd occasionally hear about some university
student discovering & being triggered by the terms "master" &
"slave" applied to technical things, eg, hard drives, cylinders.
(Felix The Cat was the first TV cartoon character. His nemesis
was "The Master Cylinder". I think he lived on the Moon.)

Well, I just heard on NPR that in the interest of avoiding increasingly
"woke" employees, companies are getting rid of such terminology.....
"Blacklisting"
"Slave cylinder", "Slave hard drive"
"Master cylinder", "Master hard drive"
"Male" & "female" connectors

Should we really go crazy, & also rename things
suggesting race, gender, religion, etc?
"Blackjack"
"Black hole"
"Master key"
"Mastermind"
"Masterful"
"John" (prostitute customer, toilet)
"John Marzetti" (school cafeteria offering)
"White noise", "White knight"
"White dwarf" (star type)
"White chocolate"
"White hot"
"Red hot"
"Red Hots" (candy type)
"Mary Janes" (shoe type)
"Jewish lightning" (arson for insurance money)
"Stevedore" (longshoreman)
"Sally forth" (to set out)
"Typhoid Mary"
"Chinese fire drill"
"Chinese water torture"

Suggestions....
"White" becomes "visible broad spectrum electromagnet radiation"
"John" becomes "happy ending customer"
"Black" becomes "light absorbing"
"Red" becomes "longer wavelength than orange, but still visible to humans"
"Infrared" becomes "longer wavelength than orange, but not visible to humans"
"Male" becomes "outie".
"Female" becomes "innie".

How far must it go to keep woke people from being triggered?
I need more examples!


It happened in various trades in the uk way back when. Such technical terms as ballcock have been replaced with float valve
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
@Revoltingest, Are you in favor of bringing back into language the common terms I heard in use as a child, which I had no idea the references to at the time?

Examples.

"Hey, he Jewed you out of your lunch money".

"You sure got gypped on that deal!"​

Or, every "unwoke" person's favorite of the childhood rhyme,

"Eenie meenie, miny mo, catch a N* by his toe. If he hollers, let him go!"
Or the referring to Brazil Nuts as "N* toes". Remember that one??

Come on, you have to be in favor of bringing these back too aren't you? Why not? You find the rest of this ridiculous, why not these? You still in favor or using the N word these days?
 
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