Please show a quote Dr. Fauci or any other epidemic expert saying masks are not needed. If you can't you might consider revising your thinking.
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The advice begins by noting that “Wearing a medical mask is one of the prevention measures to limit spread of certain respiratory diseases, including 2019-nCoV
, [since then renamed SARS-CoV-2] in affected areas.” This statement seems to set the scene for the organisation recommending mask wearing as a protective measure for the wearer, as well as for source control of the infection.
However, in the next sentence the guidance notes that “the use of a mask
alone (bolded by WHO) is insufficient to provide the adequate level of protection and other equally relevant measures should be adopted. If masks are to be used, this measure must be combined with hand hygiene and other infection prevention and control measures to prevent the human-to-human transmission of 2019-nCov.” The reference here to “protection” suggests that the main purpose of wearing a mask is to protect oneself. It’s worth noting that “being insufficient” does not mean being of “no use.”
The guidance goes on to say: “
Wearing medical masks when not indicated may cause unnecessary cost, procurement burden, and create a false sense of security that can lead to neglecting other essential measures such as hand hygiene practices.” Not having established at this point whether wearing a mask is indicated or not, the guidance places the emphasis on cost, rather than effectiveness in a way that does not seem appropriate
Under a section titled “Community setting,” WHO has further advised that “individuals without respiratory symptoms … should maintain distance of at least 1 meter from any individual with 2019-nCoV respiratory symptoms…”
Two studies published around 80 years ago provided the basis for this suggested distance, which has driven hospital infection control, but
more recent evidence suggests that droplets can travel further than two meters. This advice, while unambiguous, is also likely to prove difficult in many situations. It is especially challenging in urban settings where people are crowded closely together and it is often unclear as to who is infected or has symptoms. A recommendation that cannot be realistically met may generate a constant sense of insecurity in the wider population, which results in aversive behaviours, including discrimination against people who are seen to be at a higher risk of having the disease. There have been
reported incidents of racial discrimination since the onset of the outbreak.
This same section goes on to note that “
a medical mask is not required as no evidence is available on its usefulness to protect non-sick persons.” This is not an accurate summary of existing evidence, as there have been trials on
the community use of masks by a non-sick person that showed they reduced influenza or
flu-like illnesses in the community. These evaluated
mixed interventions with
hand hygiene and masks and the
evidence suggests that when used together they
are effective.
Commentators have noted that trials that
fail to show masks’ effectiveness in protecting wearers may be accounted for by low compliance, which is likely to be a smaller problem in the covid-19 pandemic.
Relatives or caregivers to individuals with suspected covid-19 who have mild respiratory symptoms are told that they “should wear a medical mask when in the same room with the affected individual.” This recommendation would seem to indicate that wearing a medical mask can protect the wearer. It is backed up by
some evidence of how to prevent household transmission.
Similarly, WHO advises that healthcare workers “should wear a medical mask when entering a room where patients suspected or confirmed of being infected . . . ” are being cared for. Again, this suggests that wearing a medical mask is highly effective in healthcare workers, a
conclusion that is
supported by
trials.
Finally, WHO concludes that “
Cloth masks are not recommended under any circumstance.”
To wear or not to wear: WHO’s confusing guidance on masks in the covid-19 pandemic - The BMJ
What mixed messages from what experts about flying? How about some actual quotes instead of just mouthing stuff you heard on Fox.
Well, being in a closed space like a cruise ship or plane is known to have spread the virus. Yet in some places we see movie theatres, and other venues as well as planes starting more flights again.
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Canada’s two largest airlines are grounding physical distancing measures starting in July.
According to a report from the Canadian Press, both WestJet and Air Canada will
resume booking flights to full capacity as of July 1."
Air Canada, WestJet grounding physical distancing measures
That does seem like a mixed message to me.
You are right to a degree.
- The tobacco companies hired experts to say smoking is OK when the vast majority of scientists said smoking was bad.
- The gas and oil companies hired experts to say climate change is a hoax when the vast majority of scientists said it was real.
- People with a religious agenda use experts to say evolution is a hoax when the vast majority of scientists say it is real.
Bingo.
You are among those who tend to believe the hired hacks instead of the mainstream scientists. You are the kind of person who believes the hired hacks because of your deeply seated disdain for real science. You are the kind of person the people hiring the hacks target.
False, I never said I believed either side. I just noted profession opinion is for sale.
Homosexuality was considered to be deviant behavior by the people who wrote your Bible OT & NT.
Also in law in various countries.
Science has learned there are natural causes for homosexuality.
That's another thread I disagree.
People are told a lot of wrong things by a lot of people who disdain science.
And by people who love it. Hawking was concerned with aliens if I recall.
One can become privy if someone does a little research. One remains ignorant if he does not.
My research shows they cannot be trusted.
Trump shut down the pandemic research group because it was started by Obama
The motives are fully known and stated? Source where Trump said this?
. It was just one of the many Obama policies that your petty egotist ended or tried to end.
The Obama regime was anti Christ in many ways. If people disliked it that is a great sign.
You believe if something is based on science it must be wrong.
False, the thread is about science admitting being wrong or not knowing. You have diverted discussion into things actual science deals with such as disease.
Sure, blame the people who could no longer stomach working for the great orange idiot and his ridiculous policies. Don't blame the great orange idiot for his pettiness and willful ignorance.
I sense some hatred here.
All across Europe, leaders followed science and made major inroads against the virus.
Many countries did, and yet when people tire of all the measures it seems a resurgence is possible.
In America and Brazil, the leaders are arrogant know-it-alls and the epidemic is getting worse.
That seems to be the case. However let's give it a few years and see what happens. Maybe they will say certain countries developed a herd immunity faster die to lack of measures? Ha.
On the other hand, consider what Gov. Cuomo did in New York State. He enlisted people of science, followed their recommendations, ignored Trump, and made really tough decisions.
Many seem to disagree with your hero.
"New York and New Jersey combined have suffered more COVID-19 deaths than any other
country being tracked by researchers who run the Johns Hopkins crisis dashboard. Cuomo made three breathtakingly bad moves in March that in retrospect amounted to catastrophe. First, Cuomo failed to call for, and even
actively discouraged, informal social-distancing measures in early March. Next was the
delay in mid-March in
ordering formal closures when the virus started rampaging through his state. Third was his March 25
edict to long-term care facilities that they must accept infected patients, which caused a mass deadly outbreak among helpless, trapped, elderly New Yorkers. Only in the last few days have some corners of the media begun to call attention to just how badly
Cuomo has failed us."
Coronavirus Crisis and Andrew Cuomo’s Reckless Choices | National Review
