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I need some help overcoming my bad habit. I need to change who I am :(

Ejaculating around 21 times a month has been shown to reduce the risk of prostate cancer, so it is a good way of looking after your body :) Porn is a very contentious issue so it is very understandable that you feel this way. I think society is such that it makes it inherently 'wicked', but in reality IMHO so long as the people in the porn have made it of their own free will (i.e. they enjoyed making it) and you enjoy watching it (and are not affecting anyone else by doing so), to me it is a 'win win' situation, there is no need to feel bad.
 

Baladas

An Págánach
Hello everyone,

So I am currently a 21 year old in college and I am on top of my academics, never do drugs/drink and have a great social life. However, I have had a bad habit of masturbating ever since I was in the 9th grade. I can remember definitively that I have always had a guilty consciousness after I did it and have made numerous attempts to stop. I swore to god multiple times saying that I would stop, thinking to myself that, that should enough of an incentive to quit. However, I have failed repeatedly and it's always that.... once that feeling of arousal comes over me especially when I am trying to sleep then it's just like a whole another mind takes over and it becomes very hard to control. Even this past new year, I made a promise to god that I would stop it for good and change any bad things about my self ( I am very religious, read the lord's book and try to implement good habits as much as possible; however, I am not perfect and tend to make mistakes which I want to fix). In exchange, I asked for good grades in my academics, which I received through his grace.

Sadly, I haven't been able to keep up my promise and I am hating myself for it; he does so much for me, and I can't even control this stupid habit. If anyone has any suggestions on how to stop that would be great. My main trouble is at night when I am trying to fall asleep and I get aroused which is almost impossible to stop for me; so if you can tell me what to do in this instance, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Hey guys, I am deeply thankful for you all taking the time to respond to my post. I understand everything you spoke of about masturbation, but my main issue is actually with watching pornography ( I'm not addicted) and the fact that I swore to god multiple times about this issue in the hopes of quitting but failed him. I want to make this right, and I am the one who made the promise so It's my duty to live up to my word I think. I know masturbation in and of itself isn't bad but Porn is different in my eyes.

Thank you

I spent way too long beating myself up over my high libido. Now, as a non-Christian my views have changed further, but I was once in a similar place to you. I know how much inner turmoil can be caused by warring with "sins of the mind".

Just as a suggestion, look at it this way: Your God made you a sexual being and sexuality is not a sin. According to your belief, God created pleasure too. Everyone masturbates sometimes, and it hurts no one.

I think that you need to learn to love yourself, friend.
Don't be so hard on yourself.
If your God is a God of love, then trust that he won't be disgusted with you because you have the sexual desires that he created you with.

Just because 99.9% of people do it doesn't mean that it doesn't detract from their integrity.

It also doesn't mean it does just because you were told to think it does.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hello everyone,

So I am currently a 21 year old in college and I am on top of my academics, never do drugs/drink and have a great social life. However, I have had a bad habit of masturbating ever since I was in the 9th grade. I can remember definitively that I have always had a guilty consciousness after I did it and have made numerous attempts to stop. I swore to god multiple times saying that I would stop, thinking to myself that, that should enough of an incentive to quit. However, I have failed repeatedly and it's always that.... once that feeling of arousal comes over me especially when I am trying to sleep then it's just like a whole another mind takes over and it becomes very hard to control. Even this past new year, I made a promise to god that I would stop it for good and change any bad things about my self ( I am very religious, read the lord's book and try to implement good habits as much as possible; however, I am not perfect and tend to make mistakes which I want to fix). In exchange, I asked for good grades in my academics, which I received through his grace.

Sadly, I haven't been able to keep up my promise and I am hating myself for it; he does so much for me, and I can't even control this stupid habit. If anyone has any suggestions on how to stop that would be great. My main trouble is at night when I am trying to fall asleep and I get aroused which is almost impossible to stop for me; so if you can tell me what to do in this instance, I would greatly appreciate it.

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Hey guys, I am deeply thankful for you all taking the time to respond to my post. I understand everything you spoke of about masturbation, but my main issue is actually with watching pornography ( I'm not addicted) and the fact that I swore to god multiple times about this issue in the hopes of quitting but failed him. I want to make this right, and I am the one who made the promise so It's my duty to live up to my word I think. I know masturbation in and of itself isn't bad but Porn is different in my eyes.

Thank you
Try to find something good to replace it, including religious service.
 

robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It also doesn't mean it does just because you were told to think it does.
Most people don't think it does impact their integrity and they do it, but from quitting I believe that it does. Nobody told me this; when I was doing it I rationalized that because so many people did it it wouldn't effect my integrity. That caused a lot of sin that was hard to repent of.
 

Baladas

An Págánach
Most people don't think it does impact their integrity and they do it, but from quitting I believe that it does.

I have also quit before as well (for nearly a year), so I know the feeling/state of mind that you are talking about when you say that you feel a sense of integrity over quitting. I simply disagree with your interpretation of it.

As I said above, this subject used to torment me (to the point of severe anxiety attacks).
When I found freedom from the guilt, it was a beautiful thing.

I no longer believe that sexual fantasy has any real bearing on integrity, and I believe that most of the guilt that people feel over it is due to being exposed to puritanical traditions.

I mean no disrespect to you for your personal decision to stop masturbating.
I just don't think that it's the model that everyone should ideally follow.
To each their own.
 

Jumi

Well-Known Member
Having sworn to "fix" something is difficult. You need to have some other motivation to do it, if you don't see any harm in continuing as you are.
 

rogerfan123

New Member
If you stop masturbating you will stop looking at porn intentionally.

While it's difficult at age 21 I went 6 months clean when I was like 16 so I know it's possible... I just didn't want to do it then.

Two keys to not masturbate as much: Distract your body, distract your mind. If you feel the urge go for a walk. Looking at bad pictures or revealing women is impossible to avoid, but try to avoid them and keep your mind clean. If you concentrate on something else as soon as possible, usually that image will go away in a short time.

Another key is to work in a team.

Hey thanks for your response. So I never a problem during the day in controlling my actions; however, its generally at night as I am about to fall asleep that I get the arousal feeling and temptation to do it. I would love to take a walk daily but at 12 am or 1 am I don't know how feasible it is haha. Keeping in mind I am a college senior currently. Any advice in this instance?
 

Riders

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

So I am currently a 21 year old in college and I am on top of my academics, never do drugs/drink and have a great social life. However, I have had a bad habit of masturbating ever since I was in the 9th grade. I can remember definitively that I have always had a guilty consciousness after I did it and have made numerous attempts to stop. I swore to god multiple times saying that I would stop, thinking to myself that, that should enough of an incentive to quit. However, I have failed repeatedly and it's always that.... once that feeling of arousal comes over me especially when I am trying to sleep then it's just like a whole another mind takes over and it becomes very hard to control. Even this past new year, I made a promise to god that I would stop it for good and change any bad things about my self ( I am very religious, read the lord's book and try to implement good habits as much as possible; however, I am not perfect and tend to make mistakes which I want to fix). In exchange, I asked for good grades in my academics, which I received through his grace.

Sadly, I haven't been able to keep up my promise and I am hating myself for it; he does so much for me, and I can't even control this stupid habit. If anyone has any suggestions on how to stop that would be great. My main trouble is at night when I am trying to fall asleep and I get aroused which is almost impossible to stop for me; so if you can tell me what to do in this instance, I would greatly appreciate it.

EDIT--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hey guys, I am deeply thankful for you all taking the time to respond to my post. I understand everything you spoke of about masturbation, but my main issue is actually with watching pornography ( I'm not addicted) and the fact that I swore to god multiple times about this issue in the hopes of quitting but failed him. I want to make this right, and I am the one who made the promise so It's my duty to live up to my word I think. I know masturbation in and of itself isn't bad but Porn is different in my eyes.

Thank you
Roger I am Elizabeth and I am a recovering sex and love addict. I am in the program of Sex Addicts anonymous. I have 11 weeks of recovery. Masturbation is one of my issues. I have a bunch of acting out issues, but many compulsive masturbation folks come to SAA. Some only have that one issue. I am a porn addict had to much oral sex with strangers addicted to dating web sights and porn through second life game and bdsm addicted to polyamory groups,sexting, sex through the internet skyp, fantasy and phone sex. So I have a ton of issues, but if you have just one its ok.

I have done the same masturbate to get me to sleep, when I can not sleep. Its ok, you can get help if you want it. Some people also get counseling or go to group therapy to get help instead. Sex therapists quite often have group therapy for sex addicts, so you can check into that.
You can talk to me anytime. You can get saa information for telephone meetings and face to face meetings at SAA-.talkinfo.com Ill check to make sure its right. You can speak to me anytime.
 

Segev Moran

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

So I am currently a 21 year old in college and I am on top of my academics, never do drugs/drink and have a great social life. However, I have had a bad habit of masturbating ever since I was in the 9th grade. I can remember definitively that I have always had a guilty consciousness after I did it and have made numerous attempts to stop. I swore to god multiple times saying that I would stop, thinking to myself that, that should enough of an incentive to quit. However, I have failed repeatedly and it's always that.... once that feeling of arousal comes over me especially when I am trying to sleep then it's just like a whole another mind takes over and it becomes very hard to control. Even this past new year, I made a promise to god that I would stop it for good and change any bad things about my self ( I am very religious, read the lord's book and try to implement good habits as much as possible; however, I am not perfect and tend to make mistakes which I want to fix). In exchange, I asked for good grades in my academics, which I received through his grace.

Sadly, I haven't been able to keep up my promise and I am hating myself for it; he does so much for me, and I can't even control this stupid habit. If anyone has any suggestions on how to stop that would be great. My main trouble is at night when I am trying to fall asleep and I get aroused which is almost impossible to stop for me; so if you can tell me what to do in this instance, I would greatly appreciate it.

EDIT--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Hey guys, I am deeply thankful for you all taking the time to respond to my post. I understand everything you spoke of about masturbation, but my main issue is actually with watching pornography ( I'm not addicted) and the fact that I swore to god multiple times about this issue in the hopes of quitting but failed him. I want to make this right, and I am the one who made the promise so It's my duty to live up to my word I think. I know masturbation in and of itself isn't bad but Porn is different in my eyes.

Thank you
I'll start by saying that masturbating is not a stupid habit! it is NOT something you should ever feel ashamed about regardless of you beliefs.

You are a young male, with a high sexual desire. that great! you shouldn't feel bad about it.
If, however, you really feel you want to at least lower the times you masturbate, you should without a doubt start by lowering the amount of porn you consume.
I know, i know, people here might say it is nonsense, but porn is a very bad thing. not because God said so or because it is a sin, i don't care about such things, porn is bad because it teaches you how not to lead a good sexual life!
What porn does is basically raise the sexual arousal in your brain very fast, this in turn makes your brain to always want more and more arousal and eventually you might even not be able to arouse yourself without porn.

I would start with teaching yourself to pleasure yourself without the need for porn. use your imagination and not external aids.

Once you will be able to do so, your desire for masturbation will be much more controlled. masturbating is not harmful unless (like any other thing) it is done without control.

So start by learning how to control yourself.
Masturbate only when you really feel you need it and not out of boredom.

Learn to value the feeling you get out of it and not make it a casual thing.

If indeed as you say you really want to avoid masturbation at all, i would suggest taking much caution about it. there is a reason why young people masturbate. it is a great relief (mental besides the obvious physical) and can lead to healthier sex life.

If you are feeling guilty, I suggest talking to a professional (not a religious one) that can help you ease the guilt.

the way to achieve control is not by making promises to god (especially ones you can't really keep), rather learning how to achieve the control level you desire.

BTW, the masturbation it self is not the real issue when it comes to religion and "sin". you will not burn in hell for masturbating. it is simply a question of being able to control your desires and not letting them control you.
Start slow, and change your habits in a gradual way.

Good luck :)
 
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robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I have also quit before as well (for nearly a year), so I know the feeling/state of mind that you are talking about when you say that you feel a sense of integrity over quitting. I simply disagree with your interpretation of it.

As I said above, this subject used to torment me (to the point of severe anxiety attacks).
When I found freedom from the guilt, it was a beautiful thing.

I no longer believe that sexual fantasy has any real bearing on integrity, and I believe that most of the guilt that people feel over it is due to being exposed to puritanical traditions.

I mean no disrespect to you for your personal decision to stop masturbating.
I just don't think that it's the model that everyone should ideally follow.
To each their own.
As a Raelian I felt 0 guilt masturbating. It's what they're taught. But when I stopped I did feel like I had higher integrity.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
I totally understand the sentiment, but both are linked together right? I mean I never look at pornography just for the heck of watching it. That's why i wanted to address the whole Masturbation + Pornography thing :/. I think subconsciously I obviously enjoy watching it to some degree, but I don't want to continue on this path.
Why not. What is it about viewing porn and getting a sexual charge out of it that's wrong?

Where does the harm lie?

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robocop (actually)

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Hey thanks for your response. So I never a problem during the day in controlling my actions; however, its generally at night as I am about to fall asleep that I get the arousal feeling and temptation to do it. I would love to take a walk daily but at 12 am or 1 am I don't know how feasible it is haha. Keeping in mind I am a college senior currently. Any advice in this instance?
Maybe put your computer in a high traffic area in your dorm room or find something to listen to when you go to sleep. I think that practically any music or radio talk show is good if it helps you to stop!

Also, I hope this doesn't fall into proselyting and I don't know your feelings about this but for me I learned that reading the Book of Mormon is a great benefit (for free at scriptures.lds.org). Someone in my church said that people only had problems when they weren't reading it. If you want to try the Bible or any other book you think could help go for it. The atonement as helped me.

Of course you are 21 so it's very hard... my goal for you would be just to reduce the frequency.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Well, obviously there are differences in opinion regarding masturbation and pornography. I did look at pornography as a teen, but stopped because I feel it objectifies women and isn't healthy for one's own sexual expectations or for society. Masturbation I also stopped, not because of any moral concerns but because I felt it would be better for me to live like that. I was about 19-20 I guess. Basically - don't overthink it, and don't feel you need to go cold turkey immediately. Now it just doesn't really occur to me to do it at all. Eventually you just rewrite your mind. I think in the end a vow to God that as long as I loved him/her/them I wouldn't stroke it, touch it, even go near was what finally did it.

But remember also, if you say like 'Oh I'll just play with it a little/stroke it quickly/whatever' then you're already on a slippery slope. Like, it can actually be much easier if you just don't go near. But it is a habit with a lot of momentum and energy! Takes time. If you want to quit, that is totally cool as long as it is out of genuine feeling, but you gotta commit to steadily, without getting all guilty about it, with remembering that there isn't anything wrong with it on a moral level. Doesn't hurt anybody.

As for the porn, that's easier. If it helps, remember that the women involved in its production have been sexually exploited and you would be supporting that by watching. Not a good industry to be supporting really.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Hi @rogerfan123 ..... :)

Many Christians think that masturbation is wicked, I guess that's mainly because 'Onanism' (or whatever it was called) in the Old Testament was outlawed.

But the OT laws were all about producing a strong, secure, safe, healthy, successful and integrated nation of people. Hence closed hetero-couples were urged to have lots of children! That explains a lot of the more miserable laws!

Today we don't need LOTS OF CHILDREN and so masturbation is neither unholy, immoral, illegal, wicked, unspiritual or anything else bad.

And, just onm the side, and for what it's worth, that's also why Gay love is fine today, 'cos we don't need to increase our population any more! (don't listen to population crazy economists! :) )

Please try and stop worrying about masturbation being bad. :)
Onanism is not even masturbation. Ironically it is one of the permitted versions of "birth control" for Catholics . It is the pull out method. Onan did not finish inside. He denied his brother's widow an heir.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
Onanism is not even masturbation. Ironically it is one of the permitted versions of "birth control" for Catholics . It is the pull out method. Onan did not finish inside. He denied his brother's widow an heir.
You're too late, clearly didn't even read other member's posts about that.

But masturbation was outlawed for the same reasons.
 
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