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Is Donald Trump The Greatest POTUS Of All Time?

james bond

Well-Known Member
Greater than Washington and Lincoln?

Trump is the epitome of the seven deadly sins but clearly attractive to some who don't care about, for example, the 7 Biblical virtues:
  • Prudence (Prudentia)
  • Chastity (Castitas)
  • Temperance (Temperantia)
  • Charity (Caritas)
  • Patience (Patientia)
  • Kindness (Benevolentia)
  • Humility (Humilitas)

The seven deadly sins aren't in the Bible. What's in the Bible are,

"“There are six things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers” (Proverbs 6:16-19)."

Reminds me of Obama and then Hillary Clinton backed by Bill and supporters during the election.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Absurd.
The guy is still brand new, & hasn't accomplished much yet.
No he isn't.
Trump is over 70. He has a long history.
He has accomplished a great deal and most of it is unsavory to be charitable about it. This was clear back when he was running a rigged election and when you supported and voted for him.

Saying that "He is brand new and hasn't accomplished anything" is ridiculous. He has a long history that was well known back in November.
Tom
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
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Don't kid yourself, Bond. Your man isn't any more worth my hatred than is the village idiot. I'm cheerfully contemptuous of him and most of his followers, but I don't hate him and I don't hate them. He's just a buffoon.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No he isn't.
Trump is over 70. He has a long history.
He has accomplished a great deal and most of it is unsavory to be charitable about it. This was clear back when he was running a rigged election and when you supported and voted for him.

Saying that "He is brand new and hasn't accomplished anything" is ridiculous. He has a long history that was well known back in November.
Tom
Aware posters knew that the point was that he's new to the presidency (not to the world).
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
He's doing what he has promised. He created jobs, put in a temporary ban and is fighting to keep it in, illegals are not coming in and exiting the country, destroyed Obamaism, started planning for the wall, has a replacement for Obamacare, draining the swamp and more.

Merry Christmas!

3. "If I become president, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again."

12. Frequently use the term "radical Islamic terrorism."

13. Temporarily ban most foreign Muslims from entering the United States "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." Trump would allow exceptions for dignitaries, business people, athletes and others who have "proven" themselves.

7. Knock down the regulatory walls between states for health insurance, making plans available nationally instead of regionally.

10. Defund Planned Parenthood.

1. Build a wall along the southern border that's taller than the arenas where Trump holds his rallies, taller than any ladder and one foot taller than the Great Wall of China. This "artistically beautiful" wall will be constructed out of hardened concrete, rebar and steel, and it will be "the greatest wall that you've ever seen" -- so great that the nation will likely one day name it "The Trump Wall."

2. Make Mexico pay for the wall. If Mexico refuses, then the United States will impound all remittance payments taken from the wages of illegal immigrants, cut foreign aid, institute tariffs, cancel visas for Mexican business leaders and diplomats, and increase fees for visas, border-crossing cards and port use.

8. Rebuild the country's aging infrastructure -- especially bridges and airports that look like they belong in a third-world country -- for one-third of what the United States is currently paying for such projects.

14. Bar Syrian refugees from entering the country and kick out any who are already living here. Trump says wealthy Persian Gulf nations like Saudi Arabia should pay to set up a heavily guarded "safe zone" in Syria.

15. Heavily surveil mosques in the United States. Trump has said he's open to the idea of closing some mosques.

16. Create a database of Syrian refugees. Trump hasn't ruled out creating a database of Muslims in the country.

17. Never take a vacation while serving as president.

19. Make medical marijuana widely available to patients, and allow states to decide if they want to fully legalize pot or not.

20. Stop spending money on space exploration until the United States can fix its potholes. Encourage private space-exploration companies to expand.

21. Pick Supreme Court justices who are "really great legal scholars."

22. Ensure that Iowa continues to host the nation's first presidential nominating contest.

23. Strengthen the military so that it's "so big and so strong and so great" that "nobody's going to mess with us."

24. Be unpredictable. "No one is going to touch us, because I'm so unpredictable."

25. Allow Russia to deal with the Islamic State in Syria and/or work with Russian President Vladimir Putin to wipe out shared enemies.

26. "Bomb the s--- out of ISIS." Also bomb oil fields controlled by the Islamic State, then seize the oil and give the profits to military veterans who were wounded while fighting.

27. Target and kill the relatives of terrorists.

28. Shut down parts of the Internet so that Islamic State terrorists cannot use it to recruit American children.

29. Bring back waterboarding, which the Obama administration considers torture. Trump has said he's willing to use interrogation techniques that go even further than waterboarding. Even if such tactics don't work, "they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing."

30. Leave troops in Afghanistan because it's such "a mess." Protect Israel. And increase U.S. military presence in the East and South China Seas.

48. Force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States. And bully Apple into making its "damn computers" and other products here.

You left a few out:

6. Get rid of Obamacare and replace it with something "terrific" that is "so much better, so much better, so much better."

9. Save Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security without cutting benefits.

11. "I will take care of women, and I have great respect for women. I do cherish women, and I will take care of women."

17. Never take a vacation while serving as president.


76 Campaign promises
Here are 76 of Donald Trump’s many campaign promises

Maybe he'll expose who's really behind Russian ties and put some high Democrats in jail. We can never elect Democrats to office again (or at least for the next eight years).

Trump Continues to Turn the Tables on the Obama Administration Regarding Russia Narrative
Trump Continues to Turn the Tables on the Obama Administration Regarding Russia Narrative

Sketchy firm behind Trump dossier is stalling investigators
http://nypost.com/2017/06/24/inside-the-shadowy-intelligence-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/

Breitbart? NY Post? You forgot Pravda.

Trump is the fourth Republican president in my lifetime to be the worst president ever. It seems to be an infinite regress of worse Republicans. Nobody thought they'd ever see a worse president than Nixon.

Then came Reagan. Surely it will never be worse than this again, we thought.

Then the Commander-in-Chimp - president T-ball. That absolutely had to be the worst America could possibly do.

And now this. The human Cheetoh has people longing for the good old days of Bush. He's already being investigated for four different categories of crimes in this, his sixth month on the job. And he lies just about every time he speaks.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Absurd.
The guy is still brand new, & hasn't accomplished much yet.

Sure he has. He has Congress, the FBI, and a special prosecutor investigating him, much of his family, and multiple members of his White House in less than six months. No president has ever done so much so quickly in that arena.

And he's causing America's role on the world stage to plummet. Many now call Merkel the leader of the free world:


That didn't take long.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Next, came the atheists who wanted to take Merry Christmas away saying they wanted Merry Xmas. They wanted to take the Christ out of Christmas.

How the Atheists Stole Christmas
Who Are the New Go-To Movie Villains? How About Atheists? | TIME.com

Sorry, but the ice giants, who were pagan polytheists, not atheists, already took Christ out of Christmas. They stole the baby Jesus from the manger, the camels, Magi, and sand, and replaced them with Santa, the elves, Rudolph, Frosty, tinsel, flocking, yule logs, and Christmas lights. They transformed Christmas from a desert holiday into a North Pole holiday.

In America, Oh Come All Ye Faithful is now Grandma Got Run Over By A Reindeer. In the cities, it's Police Navidad, Violent Night and Jingle Bell Glock.

Don't blame the atheists for not taking care of your holiday.

You might like to think a little before impugning atheists. You're quite vulnerable to responses like this one, and you invite them.
 

It Aint Necessarily So

Veteran Member
Premium Member
the Trump Effect has made an impact on the midterms.

The Republicans [Edit: Oops! I mean the Democrats] are now poised to take both houses in 2018 judging by the change in the margin of victory of the Republican candidates in GA-06 between November and this month -a precipitous drop from a 21% victory to 4%, and that was before revealing this health care bill and whatever lies ahead for Trump as a result of the current investigations.

Similar changes in less red districts currently represented by Republican incumbents will result in the loss of those seats. The Democrats need to capture 3 of 10 Republican senate seats at risk on 2018 to retake the senate, and 24 of 241 house seats to retake the that body, with at least 71 of districts less red than GA-06.

That's quite an accomplishment as well.

Congressional Republicans need to think about a way to neutralize Trump's toxic effect before he trashes the Republican brand further. I doubt that they can impeach him that quickly. Their best hope is that he resigns or dies of natural causes (he looks very unhealthy, and he is under endless stress).

I'm loathe to mention the A-word, but it's quick, and certainly not off the table with so much at stake and such ruthless people.

Is suicide a realistic possibility? Nah. Too megalomaniacal. If they report a suicide, don't believe it. I'd have to rate alien abduction with pneumatic anal probing higher on the list than suicide.
 
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james bond

Well-Known Member
Don't kid yourself, Bond. Your man isn't any more worth my hatred than is the village idiot. I'm cheerfully contemptuous of him and most of his followers, but I don't hate him and I don't hate them. He's just a buffoon.

It's not you, but the liberal hate by the left that is represented by the politi-toon. It's not personal.

People get caught up in it. Here is an example of liberal hate. I follow sports, especially fantasy sports, to get away from religious and political arguments. I used to go to sports.yahoo.com. Today, I read that an MMA star was saying FU to the my Golden State Warriors that became the 2016-17 world champion NBA pro basketball team. Why? Because they publicly decried that they will not visit Donald Trump in the White House. Championship teams customarily visit the White House to receive congratulations from the POTUS. My point is Yahoo has become a website that promotes liberal views. No other sports website picked up the story. They may have picked up the original story of the Warriors turning the invite down and this caused a commotion. That was a major story, so would expect it on any website, but the brouhaha had died down. Because of it, I vowed to not buy more than a cap and tee shirt from the Warriors. Usually, I spend much more on a jersey or leather jacket. No more.

To continue with the story, the MMA star wasn't a well known person. He just happened to one of the journeyman fighters to win his latest match. Certainly not newsworthy, but Yahoo put it on its banner as clickbait. I commented this is enough from Yahoo. Thus, I switched to nbcsports and cbssports.com today. They did not have this story. No stories mixing sports and politics. The point is people know the liberals just want to stir up division, especially between whites and blacks. I've shut off my New York Times subscription and CNN years ago. I even avoided eating in the break room of work because it had CNN all the time. It wasn't that long ago that politics, sports and business were different worlds. The liberals for some reason want to blur the lines and cause dissension among the ranks.

I'm sure even if you do not read salon.com or other political websites that you sense a division in this country. It's just the extremists stirring the pot to create tensions between the two political parties. All this negative stirring just makes me not want to vote for a Democrat anymore. Politically, I'm an independent as I am fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. These kind of tactics by the liberals just make me turn more conservative. We will know the ramifications if it affects the blue states and changes the numbers there.
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
He's doing what he has promised. He created jobs, put in a temporary ban and is fighting to keep it in, illegals are not coming in and exiting the country, destroyed Obamaism, started planning for the wall, has a replacement for Obamacare, draining the swamp and more.

Merry Christmas!

3. "If I become president, we're all going to be saying 'Merry Christmas' again."

12. Frequently use the term "radical Islamic terrorism."

13. Temporarily ban most foreign Muslims from entering the United States "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on." Trump would allow exceptions for dignitaries, business people, athletes and others who have "proven" themselves.

7. Knock down the regulatory walls between states for health insurance, making plans available nationally instead of regionally.

10. Defund Planned Parenthood.

1. Build a wall along the southern border that's taller than the arenas where Trump holds his rallies, taller than any ladder and one foot taller than the Great Wall of China. This "artistically beautiful" wall will be constructed out of hardened concrete, rebar and steel, and it will be "the greatest wall that you've ever seen" -- so great that the nation will likely one day name it "The Trump Wall."

2. Make Mexico pay for the wall. If Mexico refuses, then the United States will impound all remittance payments taken from the wages of illegal immigrants, cut foreign aid, institute tariffs, cancel visas for Mexican business leaders and diplomats, and increase fees for visas, border-crossing cards and port use.

8. Rebuild the country's aging infrastructure -- especially bridges and airports that look like they belong in a third-world country -- for one-third of what the United States is currently paying for such projects.

14. Bar Syrian refugees from entering the country and kick out any who are already living here. Trump says wealthy Persian Gulf nations like Saudi Arabia should pay to set up a heavily guarded "safe zone" in Syria.

15. Heavily surveil mosques in the United States. Trump has said he's open to the idea of closing some mosques.

16. Create a database of Syrian refugees. Trump hasn't ruled out creating a database of Muslims in the country.

17. Never take a vacation while serving as president.

19. Make medical marijuana widely available to patients, and allow states to decide if they want to fully legalize pot or not.

20. Stop spending money on space exploration until the United States can fix its potholes. Encourage private space-exploration companies to expand.

21. Pick Supreme Court justices who are "really great legal scholars."

22. Ensure that Iowa continues to host the nation's first presidential nominating contest.

23. Strengthen the military so that it's "so big and so strong and so great" that "nobody's going to mess with us."

24. Be unpredictable. "No one is going to touch us, because I'm so unpredictable."

25. Allow Russia to deal with the Islamic State in Syria and/or work with Russian President Vladimir Putin to wipe out shared enemies.

26. "Bomb the s--- out of ISIS." Also bomb oil fields controlled by the Islamic State, then seize the oil and give the profits to military veterans who were wounded while fighting.

27. Target and kill the relatives of terrorists.

28. Shut down parts of the Internet so that Islamic State terrorists cannot use it to recruit American children.

29. Bring back waterboarding, which the Obama administration considers torture. Trump has said he's willing to use interrogation techniques that go even further than waterboarding. Even if such tactics don't work, "they deserve it anyway, for what they're doing."

30. Leave troops in Afghanistan because it's such "a mess." Protect Israel. And increase U.S. military presence in the East and South China Seas.

48. Force Nabisco to once again make Oreos in the United States. And bully Apple into making its "damn computers" and other products here.


76 Campaign promises
Here are 76 of Donald Trump’s many campaign promises

Maybe he'll expose who's really behind Russian ties and put some high Democrats in jail. We can never elect Democrats to office again (or at least for the next eight years).

Trump Continues to Turn the Tables on the Obama Administration Regarding Russia Narrative
Trump Continues to Turn the Tables on the Obama Administration Regarding Russia Narrative

Sketchy firm behind Trump dossier is stalling investigators
http://nypost.com/2017/06/24/inside-the-shadowy-intelligence-firm-behind-the-trump-dossier/
George Washington,Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, Harry S. Truman, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Lyndon B. Johnson.

Trump is better than any of them? I wouldn't place Trump above Bush Jr or Nixon.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
I think he is great for the USA.
He won, right?
So America really deserve him.


He is a different kind of air in the White House - a non politician, unconventional and I think he inspires other people, at least to be funny.

 
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