Is Donald Trump The Greatest POTUS Of All Time?

[Yerda]

Definitely better than Obama, Obama set the bar incredibly low.

Obama was a better president, human being and example for others than any American president in my lifetime. Perhaps that's not too difficult since you lot tend to elect fools like the current example.

 

[james bond]

"We believe in an open and pluralistic society and that democracy is the best guarantee of protecting human rights from authoritarian elites and repressive majorities." Affirmations of Humanism Affirmations of Humanism - Council for Secular Humanism

Still an abstraction. There is some turmoil within the leadership ranks and in the end it could lead to Communism and state atheism.

The opposing thoughts are expressed here:

http://autodidactproject.org/other/humanism-roberts.pdf

 

[james bond]

Another huge win for DJT!

"CNN is reeling under a massive scandal involving three top-level CNN journalists — including one Pulitzer Prize-winning editor — who got caught fabricating completely fake news accusing a Trump associate of collusion with Russia.

“That article — like so much Russia reporting from the U.S. media — was based on a single anonymous source, and now, the network cannot vouch for the accuracy of its central claims,” writes Glenn Greenwald from The Intercept. CNN was forced to pull the story as every single “fact” cited by CNN writers unraveled and was proven to be utterly false.

CNN credibility collapses under weight of fake news scandal… “no longer a news organization”"

CNN credibility collapses under weight of fake news scandal... "no longer a news organization"

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My guess that their source is Fusion CSR.

"Fox News provided more details about the Russian dossier yesterday. Democrats have ruminated endlessly about it since last year and Jim Comey appears to have used it in the Russia investigation.

There is now more evidence that a Clinton-backed group was behind the promotion of the unverified Russian dossier that contained scurrilous allegations against President Trump, according to the New York Post."

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"Fusion GPS was on the payroll of an unidentified Democratic ally of Clinton when it hired a long-retired British spy to dig up dirt on Trump. In 2012, Democrats hired Fusion GPS to uncover dirt on GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. And in 2015, Democrat ally Planned Parenthood retained Fusion GPS to investigate pro-life activists protesting the abortion group."

Senate Investigating the Russia Democrat-Dossier Used by the FBI

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I'm not sure how this is going to tie in with the Mueller investigation as his investigation is emanating out to the House of Representatives. Mueller is the guy who can put high ranking people in prison.

Stay tuned!

 

[james bond]

Definitely better than Obama, Obama set the bar incredibly low.

Last week, we had the fifth Obama official being put under investigation.

What? People don't read the news (sarcasm)? They're watching the fake news channel and reading NYT.

 

[james bond]

In what way?
The stock market was nearly triple from what it was when Obama took office. The real estate market was growing again. Unemployment was shrinking. Illegal workers were going away.

What are you talking about?
Tom

PS ~this looks like your assertions about theology. Demonstrably untrue. But you are confident

Do you really not understand that employers giving jobs to illegal workers dropped under Obama? It skyrocketed under Bush, then dropped slightly under Obama. Those are the facts. You are certainly entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts.
Tom

You got some of the numbers that politicians and CNN like to parade around. I'm talking jobs for US citizens. They weren't the ones getting jobs under Obama. I'm talking real economic growth or real GDP growth. It was 1.55% under Obama. It puts Obama as the fourth worst presidency on record. The unemployment numbers were fudged. They didn't take into account the massive numbers of people who gave up looking for work.

Heh. I looked into what CNN says ha ha. This is why DJT has take his tweets against biased hateful corrupted liberal media to new heights. After I dropped my subscription to NYT, I just blasted them and still continue to blast them. Today, it's CNN. CNN was piped into the some of the break rooms where I worked. It was brainwashing.

The Obama economy: 10 key stats

 

[Regolith Based Lifeforms]

You got some of the numbers that politicians and CNN like to parade around. I'm talking jobs for US citizens. They weren't the ones getting jobs under Obama. I'm talking real economic growth or real GDP growth. It was 1.55% under Obama. It puts Obama as the fourth worst presidency on record. The unemployment numbers were fudged. They didn't take into account the massive numbers of people who gave up looking for work.

Heh. I looked into what CNN says ha ha. This is why DJT has take his tweets against biased hateful corrupted liberal media to new heights. After I dropped my subscription to NYT, I just blasted them and still continue to blast them. Today, it's CNN. CNN was piped into the some of the break rooms where I worked. It was brainwashing.

The Obama economy: 10 key stats

Every day we get closer to totalitarian dictatorship and everyone secretly wants it as much as you do. We NEED that nuclear holocaust to end everything now before you get too happy.
If i were in control of a nuclear arsenal, i would have already done the deed.
I am NOTHING.
Humanity is NOTHING
You are as a small reflecting pool of liquid petroleum.
BURN.

 

[Ricktheheretic]

Could there be coexistence between Christianity and Communism? There was the anti-religious, authoritarian style of Communism embodied in Marxism-Leninism. But some took Marx's ideas differently. "The Socialist Party is committed to the rights of free speech, free press, free assembly, and personal privacy, and the freedom of religious choice through the separation of church and state." "We are committed to the transformation of capitalism through the creation of a democratic socialist society based on compassion, empathy, and respect as well as the development of new social structures." Socialist Party USA In some Social-Democratic countries religion is more recognized than in the U.S. In Denmark, Sweden, and Norway there is a national Church even though the government is officially secular. In Germany religion courses are taught in schools. I am certainly not trying to define what Communism or Socialism is, there are different interpretations. The People's Republic of China allows religious freedom and private property,even though they are "Communist" or "Marxist-Leninist." CONSTITUTION OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

 

[Underhill]

I only say that flexibility is a possible motive.
Incompetence is certainly another possibility.

But there is evidence of some competence in his administration.
The VA is finally seeing positive change.
Trump extends vets' access to privatized health care
Obama holdover: Trump style 'quicker, more decisive'

The idea that politicians are either all good (my side) or all bad (the other side)
is one best avoided. Things are rarely so extreme, despite how they might feel.

I would agree with rarely. I said the same about Obama and was shouted down. I've said the same about Bush and was laughed at. This time, is one of those rare occasions.

Sure he might stumble on something that works, I'm not sure privatization is an example of that. I also have no doubt that a tyrannical leadership style makes for decisive action. But I see nothing positive about Trump as a leader. If anything positive comes from this, I hope it is among the voters. But thus far I am seeing little evidence of that.

 

[Revoltingest]

I would agree with rarely. I said the same about Obama and was shouted down. I've said the same about Bush and was laughed at. This time, is one of those rare occasions.

I laugh at you too, but not over those posts.
( @Quagmire put a "KICK ME" sign on your back.)

 

[Regolith Based Lifeforms]

Could there be coexistence between Christianity and Communism? There was the anti-religious, authoritarian style of Communism embodied in Marxism-Leninism. But some took Marx's ideas differently. "The Socialist Party is committed to the rights of free speech, free press, free assembly, and personal privacy, and the freedom of religious choice through the separation of church and state." "We are committed to the transformation of capitalism through the creation of a democratic socialist society based on compassion, empathy, and respect as well as the development of new social structures." Socialist Party USA In some Social-Democratic countries religion is more recognized than in the U.S. In Denmark, Sweden, and Norway there is a national Church even though the government is officially secular. In Germany religion courses are taught in schools. I am certainly not trying to define what Communism or Socialism is, there are different interpretations. The People's Republic of China allows religious freedom and private property,even though they are "Communist" or "Marxist-Leninist." CONSTITUTION OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA

Most interesting!
I'm not sure if i can believe without evidence that this is what happens in China consistently, but in theory, Not BAD.

 

[james bond]

Every day we get closer to totalitarian dictatorship and everyone secretly wants it as much as you do. We NEED that nuclear holocaust to end everything now before you get too happy.
If i were in control of a nuclear arsenal, i would have already done the deed.
I am NOTHING.
Humanity is NOTHING
You are as a small reflecting pool of liquid petroleum.
BURN.

Huh?

Trump is against totalitarian dictatorship.