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You have not been reading what I have been writing. The Bible itself say's that the Mosaic laws are no longer applicable - and that's why we don't follow them anymore. There is no other part of the Bible that does this - but only for the Mosaic law. By not following the Mosaic law, we are are following the Bible even more closely than most people, not disobeying itDruidus said:But did you not say that you believe in the bible 100%? Therefore, since these were the words and commandments of God, you would be disobeying him, no? How can you say that these rules are not to be followed and others are? Why don't we not follow other rules, and say we can "still learn from them"?
Ahh, but to say that you accept the bible in full, and then not to follow it literally would be hypocritical. You are not to eat the blood, it doesn't say you can't recieve transfusions. Every peice of meat you eat will have some blood in it. That's where the taste comes from (hemoglobin from the blood). Are you all vegetarians? There is also blood in eggs (chicken menstruation), and milk (Cows regularily have bleeding sores, because they have been engineered to have udders far too large for their bodies. Some of this blood and pus get in the milk.). Before you say that these are animals, and thus, do not count, read your quote again. "YOU must not eat the blood of any sort of flesh...". It says "any sort of flesh". I presume meat is flesh.
I have never heard of Zathutra, there is no reference to him in the Bible.Zathutra (sp?), a prophet from around the same region as the biblical prophets, was killed for his predictions, because they were against the bible. The predictions came true. Show me these "predictions" that came true. What about the Vedic texts? The myriad other "holy" books? I recall, one of them had drawings of flyable aircraft!
As for Nostradamus, I would not consider him "a prophet". Of the alleged 946 predictions attributed to Nostradamus, only about 70 are considered to have had some kind of fulfillment. That works out to less than a 7-percent success rate. However, regarding the successes, MClintock and Strongs Cyclopædia comments that many are considered to be the "bold forgeries" of his interpreters, including the prediction of his own death. Others were "composed after the events to which they seem designed to refer." Some are "strained" in their application and some are shown to have fulfillments in a number of different events.When astrologers predict future events, it is not always possible to determine their accuracy since it may require waiting centuries for the fulfillment, if there ever is a fulfillment.Nostradamus also predicted much. However, biblical predictions are even more vague then his, and thus, open to speculation, not considered fact. The bible's message is harmonius? Why was the God of the old testament more like a sadistic ruler who favoured one child, and the God of the new testament like a loving martyr who favoured none? It's works and fruitage? Why aren't the other holy books considered the word of God to you, then?
SoulTYPE01 said:...............
Jah dude thinks I am invisible.
You're taking what I say out of context - which you done with my every response so far. Your response of John 3:13 has nothing to do with your original question of the first resurrection. To be able to understand John 3:13 correctly, you have to understand the context it was in first and also, and look at the prior scriptures. John 3:9-13 says: " In answer Nic·o·de´mus said to him: "How can these things come about?" 10 In answer Jesus said to him: "Are you a teacher of Israel and yet do not know these things? 11 Most truly I say to you, What we know we speak and what we have seen we bear witness of, but YOU people do not receive the witness we give. 12 If I have told YOU earthly things and yet YOU do not believe, how will YOU believe if I tell YOU heavenly things? 13 Moreover, no man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man".Ronald said:In your condescending Laymans terms or any other terms, Show me where anyone goes to heaven EXCEPT He who Came Down From Heaven!!!! Seems to me you have a SECRET BIBLE, because I've never read one that sats "Go to Heaven" you me or anyone else. (Joh 3:13 No one has ascended intoheaven but he who descended from heaven, the Son of man.)
WitnessofJah likes to ADD also! :162:
That's many questions in one small paragraph.robtex said:I understand that Jehovah's witness cannot box, wrestle or study martial arts. Is this true? I also understand that they are discouraged from marrying outside of their faith...how true is that? When was Jesus last on earth and where?
No I am not saying this at all. If you read my prior response carefully, I was actually talking about the the ancient Greek texts. By comparing many of these Greek copies, we were able to compare them accurately to uncover the correct text. As I said in my previous response: 'From this we should not take the view that the text of the Christian Greek Scriptures has suffered measurably in transmission. Scholar Jack Finegan has stated: "The total number of New Testament manuscripts is very impressive. . . . No other Greek book has anything like this amount of testimony to its text. It is true that there are numerous textual variations among these different New Testament manuscripts, but the majority of them are of a relatively minor character . . . As a matter of fact, it has been estimated by careful students that there are substantial variations in hardly more than a thousandth part of the entire text."Light from the Ancient Past, page 352.linwood said:Are you saying that the New World Translation is not inerrant?
I have never heard a JW under any circumstances admit to this and I`ve argued it with quite a few.
Read my response to "Robtex". We do no "enforce" anything and only "advise". To make anybody do anything would be wrong on our part.It is entirely true.
Many sects do not want their flock to marry any of a different faith but the JW`s are extremely strict about it.
JW`s disparage most influence outside of their faith.
We don't "shun" anybody. I have been going to Kingdom Hall meetings for years and I have never been told by any elder in the congregation to shun/ignore non-believers. On the contrary, we are told to to have good conduct and be kind to non-believers. 1 Peter 2:12 says: "Maintain your conduct right among the nations, that . . . they may as a result of your right works . . . glorify God." As JW's we actually frown upon and condemn other JW's who act in a bad manner to non-believers.a2ndson said:May I ask, how do you feel about the jw's common practice of telling their flock to shun those who don't agree 100% with their doctrine?
The Silent Lambs are what we call "apostates". We have no hatred toward them at all but we frown upon their accusations because they are unfounded. A few of these Silent Lamb "members" were actually former JW'S which have an axe to grind because they were expelled for serious wrongdoing. The Bible even foretold that these people would exist: "For many deceivers have gone forth into the world, persons not confessing Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist." (2 John 7)linwood said:Witness what is your opinion of the Silent Lambs and their efforts?
The reason why we preach and knock on people's door is because the Bible COMMANDS us to do so many times. Jesus himself even preached in his era. Matthew 24:14 says: "And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come."SoulTYPE01 said:Witnessdude, I do have a question on jehova's witnesses themselves.
Why do they feel they have to "doorknock" to convince families to believe in God? Should they not accept people's own religions, and not think that the "Jehova's Witness" way is THE RIGHT way?
Why do JWs believe the end is near?WitnessofJah said:As the time of the end in now approaching...[/size][/font]
I don't think you are the only one...ask carrdero. Plus...patience is a vertueSoulTYPE01 said:...............
Jah dude thinks I am invisible.
I don't want to interrupt Jah's reign in this thread, but perhaps I can answer it Maize. They do so because the time when God is returning to the World, he will destroy it and mould it into his image. He will remove all evil and cleanse it, making it a "newer" world. Therefore, it is the end of the "worl" we currently live onMaize said:Why do JWs believe the end is near?
I feel that way too, but remain.SOGFPP said:Just want to pop in here and say that I have great respect for you WitnessofJah.
Thanks so much for posting your beliefs here.... it takes a lot of courage to post when sometimes it seems everyone is "against" you.
POST ON!
Scott
Maize said:Why do JWs believe the end is near?
If they are ringing you against your consent and you have told them not to ring again, I find that hard to believe. However, if you say something to the extent of "I don't mind you ringing again" - then they probably will. Ringing people by phone is not something we do unless consent has been given. Did you give them your phone number? Because if you did, this probably explains it. We don't ring people out of the blue like we are salesman - we just simply don't do that and never have.mrscarrdero said:I don't think you are the only one...ask carrdero. Plus...patience is a vertue
I have a question...I always used to having JW come knocking on our door, but for some reason, we have been receiving phone calls for bible studies. When did they start this and why?
Ok, I understand this point now.You have not been reading what I have been writing. The Bible itself say's that the Mosaic laws are no longer applicable - and that's why we don't follow them anymore. There is no other part of the Bible that does this - but only for the Mosaic law. By not following the Mosaic law, we are are following the Bible even more closely than most people, not disobeying it
Act 15:29 says: To keep abstaining from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication. If YOU carefully keep yourselves from these things, YOU will prosper. Good health to YOU!" Nowhere in this scripture does it refer to food consumption only, it is a full command to abstain altogether. Ask yourself this: Do you think that God after banning blood from food, would be happy for his servants to accept blood through a needle?!
I have never heard of Zathutra, there is no reference to him in the Bible.
However, some are very specific, such as the one where he predicts that Napolean will be exiled to the island of Elba, even going so far as to use Napoleans symbol and the name of the island.As for Nostradamus, I would not consider him "a prophet". Of the alleged 946 predictions attributed to Nostradamus, only about 70 are considered to have had some kind of fulfillment. That works out to less than a 7-percent success rate.
The God of the OT was not being "tyrannical", despite what it seems. The fact that the first born was favoured was not something that God set in motion, it was actually the local Israelite tradition at the time, among many other traditions. From God's point of view, he was not going to "change" the culture of his people, however, he was going "regulate" it so that it was a fair system. If you read the other passages of the OT, this "OT God" is the same God that makes sure the poor people have food to eat and makes sure slaves are treated fairly and are set free after seven years, among many other things.