I don't know. Are you capable of making posts that doesn't show your arrogance and rudeness?
Get defensive, it helps. And yes, I can. I already have. I've made a number of posts on this thread
here and
here. I don't think anyone has actually tried to address the points I've made.
People keep saying "lolz derp strawman!" so much around here, it's pretty much lost all meaning at this point. Kind of like the people who say "racist" when something is not racist.
Okay, since you obviously don't believe your claims are strawmen, I'll attempt to explain why I believe it is.
This thread is about Islam - as in the religious doctrine. While the OP mentions Muslims, he doesn't mention all Muslims, nor does he generalise, nor does he say 'they all think the same' AFAIK. Literally the only person doing that here is you. You're deliberately twisting arguments made about the intolerant aspects of Islamic doctrine to make this about Muslims. You're trying to shift the conversation to force us to focus on the person rather than the belief that person holds. I'm honestly not sure whether this is deliberate. The point is, you're addressing an argument that is not being made - you're making up your own narrative, acting as if we hold it, and knock it down. That is why your arguments against our generalising of Muslims is a strawman - we're not making any such generalisations.
What's worse is you're even telling people what they think. "You think that all Muslims think the same because they read the same book!" You even do it later in this post of yours that I'm responding to here.
Do you have anything to contribute? Or is your next post going to be like your other posts, which consists of "You're an idiot because I say so. lolz"
And which of my previous posts have actually said or implied that? I've been a bit sardonic but I've not gone out of my way to say those who disagree with me are stupid. I'd really appreciate it if you could stop putting words in my mouth.
If you disagree fine. I could care less
"Couldn't". 'Could' doesn't make sense; if you
could care less then that means you still care to some degree. Presumably you're trying to establish that you don't care.
Say something of substance.
I have done so in multiple posts which you or any other of Islam's defenders have yet to address. Pointing out the OIC's attempts global blasphemy laws undermines the claim that some Muslims don't want to force Islamic law on others is of substance; asking why applying Islamic religious law against non-Muslims is just, is of substance; pointing out the fact that saying 'aspects of Islam like
zakat makes Islam peaceful but things like capital punishment for apostasy, historical extortion of non-Muslims (
jizyah), enslavement of non-Muslims, the destruction of non-Islamic religious structures etc doesn't make Islam a violent or intolerant faith' is applying a double-standard.
You clearly don't like my posts
We don't agree on this particular subject, that's all.
or believe in conspiracies
Anyone who refuses to learn about things like kinetic energy, mass & velocity while mindlessly chanting "9/11 was an inside job 'cause jet fuel can't melt steel beams" is not someone I'll be able to take seriously.
and seem to think all Muslims are the same,
How have you arrived at that conclusion? Literally none of my posts contain arguments along those lines; and you have my permission to quote any post I've ever made here on RF to disprove me.
I feel the need to nip this misrepresentation thing you do squarely in the bud because I'm heartily sick of it. You ignore what people have said, tell them what they're arguing, then proceed to counter this argument that only you have produced. Again, the strawman thing.
Do you know what you're doing half the time?
Talking with someone who's either incapable or unwilling to counter the arguments presented in threads like this?
Do you honestly believe all Muslims think the same because they read the same book? Really?
See, this is what I mean. You claim that I believe "all Muslims think the same because they read the same book", then proceed to get all incredulous with me because, apparently, this is what I think. You know what? Time to stop this crap here. Let me make this very clear for you:
I am arguing against Islamic doctrine. I am not generalising or stereotyping Muslims individually or collectively. That is not my goal, that is not my intent. My main contention is with the intolerant aspects of Islamic belief that some people seem all too eager to ignore but I feel need to be addressed and acknowledged if Islam is to undergo any genuine kind of Enlightenment.
This is your one & final warning: I've made clear what I'm arguing against and why. You can no longer feign ignorance on the matter. If you continue to misrepresent my arguments as being Islamophobic, anti-Muslim or being aimed at Muslims then I will continually point out that you're lying because you will then be misrepresenting my arguments in the knowledge of why I'm actually making them.
Pointing out Islam while ignoring Christianity, Judaism, Mormonism, and other Abrahamic religions isn't fair. They all have the same problem.
Just as pointing out problems with Christianity (which Mormonism is a sect of) and Judaism is unfair while giving Islam a free pass or, worse, accusing anyone who gives Islam similar treatment that the other two religions get is also unfair. Why is one okay but not the other? Christianity (rightly) comes in for a lot of criticism from some quarters of society who are more than willing to give Islam - with its similar history & doctrines which accommodate or even encourage intolerance towards outsiders - a free pass.
