Not all the Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims....??

Salam Alikom,
Shalom Alikom,
Peace for you,
I readed in the Holy Book many strange verse , I couldnt know if it means violence and terrorist or what , it was scary verses anyway....

I'm really interested to know Why God said that verses...............??

That verses is basically in the Torah , the book of Jews , but the Christians too , believe in the same Book , as an Old Testament....


Ezekiel 9:6Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

Isaiah 13:16Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.
Hosea 13:1616 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
Let us look at Numbers 31:17 "Now kill all the boys [innocent kids]. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."

Also, let us look at Numbers 31:35-40 "[From the captives of war] 32,000 women who had never slept with a man.......of which the tribute for the LORD was 32 [virgin women]."

Why kill the innocent children? Why kill all of the non-virgin women? Back then, it was only men who fought men in wars. Women rarely fought in battle fields. So what crime did the innocent children and the non-virgin women do?

Did that verses really been taken in consideration by Christians and spreaded the terrorism.............??

Thats what we can see Obviosely everywhere , hundreds , but lts say thousands of terrorist Christian groups appeared becayse of thos teachings...

Christian terrorism is religiouse terrorism by groups or individuals, the motivation of which is typically rooted in an idiosyncratic interpretation of the Bible and other Christian tenets of faith. From the viewpoint of the terrorist, Christian scripture and theology provide justification for violent political activities

Some Christiant terrorist Organisation,

Canada,

The Sons of Freedom a sect of Doukhobor anarchists, have Protested rude, blown up power pylons, railroad bridges, and set fire to homes, often targeting their own property.......

India,

The National Liberation Front of Tripura, a rebel group operating in Tripura, North-East India classified by the National Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism as one of the ten most active terrorist groups in the world, has been accused of forcefully converting people to Christianity.
The Nagaland Rebels of Nagaland, North-East India is a coalition of rebel groups including the National Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah, has been involved in an ethnic conflict that has resulted in tens of thousands of deaths since the Indian Declaration of Independence

Ireland,

Several people have stated that the religious divide between Roman Catholics and Protestants was a contributing factor to The Troubles,
Romania,
Anti-Semitic Romanian Orthodox fascist movements in Romania, such as the Iron Guard and Lăncieri, were allegedly responsible for involvement in the Holocaust, Bucharest pogrom, and political murders during the 1930s.
Russia,

Many Russian political and paramilitary groups combine racism, nationalism, and Russian Orthodox beliefs.
Russian National Unity, a far right ultra-nationalist political party and paramilitary organization, advocates an increased role for the Russian Orthodox Church according to its manifesto. It has been accused of murders, and several terrorist attacks including the bombing of the US Consulate in Ekaterinburg.

Uganda,

The Lord's Resistance Army, a sectarian guerrilla army engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government, has been accused of using child soldiers and committing numerous crimes against humanity; including massacres, abductions, mutilation, torture, rape, porters and sex slaves. It is led by Joseph Kony, who proclaims himself the spokesperson of God and a spirit medium, primarily of the Christian Holy Spirit which the Acholi believe can represent itself in many manifestations. LRA fighters wear rosary beads and recite passages from the Bible before battle, but some Islam is mixed into their beliefs as well.

United States,

Beginning in the late nineteenth century, white supremacist Ku Klux Klan members in the Southern United States engaged in arson, beatings, cross burning, destruction of property, lynching, murder, rape, tar-and-feathering, and whipping against African Americans and other social or ethnic minorities.
During the twentieth century, members of extremist groups such as the Army of God began executing attacks against abortion clinics and doctors across the United States. A number of terrorist attacks, including the Centennial Olympic Park bombing during the 1996 Summer Olympics, were carried out by individuals and groups with ties to the Christian Identity and Christian Patriot movements; including the Aryan Nations and the Lambs of Christ.:105–120 A group called Concerned Christians unsuccessfully planned to attack holy sites in Jerusalem at the end of 1999, believing that their deaths would "lead them to heaven.


Its related to my thread,

Is Islam a religion of terrorism....??
in ----> Religious Education Forum / Discuss Individual Religions / Abrahamic Religions / Islam

Your posts are painful to look at. Mostly due to color scheme and lack of brevity.
Therefore, I will adress the topic's name instead "Not all the Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims?"

Of course not, who ever told you that? There are plenty of other political and religious terrorists in this world. It's very sad.

"Not all the Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims?"

That is an interesting statement or question.
it is obvious that not all terrorist are Muslims, but certainly there is a common factor to consider... Moslems tend to be a majority in many under developed and poor countries, and it is in these situations where division and conflict are most likely to stem. It is not surprising then that Muslims are perceived to be at the centre of the resulting terrorism. In truth, the situation in those places does not depend on the religion of the inhabitants, but on the situation in which they find themselves. Terrorism or freedom fighters are an inevitable consequence of this.

There are separate groups of fundamental religious fanatics who take advantage of the above situations. At the present time, most of these groups are indeed Muslims, though in the past they have come from both religious and political factions covering a wide range of beliefs.

Could we define the word "terrorist", first?

No not at all,there are political movements that are deemed Terrorists, however the majority of Terrorist organisations are run by and staffed by Muslims but these cowardly scumbags should not be taken as an example of what a Muslim is.

rojse said:

Could we define the word "terrorist", first?

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Best question ever?

OmarKhayyam said:

A terrorist is a guy with gun and/or bomb who doesn't believe what I believe.

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So now my dad is a terrorist? Sheesh

Terrywoodenpic said:

There are separate groups of fundamental religious fanatics who take advantage of the above situations. At the present time, most of these groups are indeed Muslims, though in the past they have come from both religious and political factions covering a wide range of beliefs.

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Exactly, Terry. The sad part for Islam to own up to is that there are currently many people labelled as terrorists who just happen to be Muslims and use their religion to fuel their cause. "The West" didn't invent the term "jihad" and we got the current popular meaning from the fundamentalist fanatics themselves. Perhaps Muslims should be trying to educate the fanatics in their ranks, not us. For the most part, we don't give a flying phooey what they want to believe.

Muhamed _ Stephanie said:

The Sons of Freedom a sect of Doukhobor anarchists, have Protested rude, blown up power pylons, railroad bridges, and set fire to homes, often targeting their own property.......

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That has got to be the most ineffective thing for a terrorist to do... unless they live in apartments.


But as to the op, " Not all the Muslims are terrorists, but all the terrorists are Muslims....??" - no, they aren't. Muslims are cool.
Anyone can be a terrorist, with or without religion - just as long as you have something you're so passionate about you're more than happy to hurt others for (this is usually politics, or religion, sadly...).

It makes me wonder what brainwashing is going on to make Muslims, whose religion is about tolerance and peace and the safety of the innocent, to forsake all they have been taught traditionally, and then declare they must kill the infidel - with how much they have to ignore of the Qur'an and ahadith to hold these views, it's tragic.

My local mosque had a preacher about.. oh, four or years ago now, who (according to rumours) was fired and went to prison for terrorism charges. Then the next imam stole the money for the completion of the mosque and vanished. Horrible! The new guy is nice though.

Terrorism is...pretty vague actually. I think the "War on Terror" is another way of our government subtly saying "We are going to fight anything that we can call terrorism. We will take peoples' rights away. We will not give them trials or justice. We will simply enforce the will of the United States under the guise of "national security"."

Don't believe the lies that you're told. If our government cared about national security they wouldn't be letting hundreds of illegal immigrants come across the border each day. It's all a well-planned scheme to take rights away little by little.

As far as whether or not terrorists are muslims, well...most terrorists I've heard about sound like people who have strong beliefs, but are unsure of how to express those beliefs. They are usually people who want to affect political change (often times for what they believe to be the better) but seek to do so through violence.

I'm certain that such people are not limited to Islam, or Christianity. There are terrorists of all sizes, shapes, colors, religions, ethnicities, and political beliefs.

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all Muslims are terrible. hth.

not all muslim's are terrorists, not all christians are sane in the membrane. in fact many things people overlook is the meaning of words or passages we read. for instance, my muslim friend from pakistan told me that the jihad had not meant in the beginning to kill the "infidels" but was in fact the inner struggle of man over his own inherent darkness.

not all muslims are terrorists. and not all terrorizers are muslim. point in fact IRA. case closed.

Muhamed _ Stephanie said:

Salam Alikom,

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Wa'alaykum salaam

rojse said:

Could we define the word "terrorist", first?

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Still haven't seen a response.

Not all muslims are terrorists. You guys are forgetting that there was a terrorist group that used planes to bomb the capital of the country. These guys were the first terrorist group that used suicidal bombing( Idea obviously take from the japan suicide bombers in the WW.). Also sources relieve that they are the the people who first trained muslim suicidal attackers. There is no doubt that they were the most dangerous terrorist group ever lived, but since the world did not pay that much attention to them(Political reasons of course, everything is political) most people dont know.

So again, yeah. Not all muslims are terrorists. There are many other really dangerous terrorist groups.

Zephyr said:

... but all Muslims are terrible....

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You obviously do not know how cool I am

rojse said:

Could we define the word "terrorist", first?

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Nice one, some see the America government as a terrorist organisation. Wearing suits doesn't mean your not a terrorist.

F0uad said:

Nice one, some see the America government as a terrorist organisation. Wearing suits doesn't mean your not a terrorist.

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Fair point. There are those who claim that nations and governments are by definition incapable of commiting terrorism. I find such thinking very dangerous and unadvisable indeed.