Bob Dixon

I was just sick of the same ****, different day threads on here, and sick of the repetitive posts, endless anti-theist trolls, the "prove it prove it prove it" posts, and so on. I felt burnt out with everything happening, and tired of it all ans so I wanted a break from it. I wanted to focus on the family and stuff for a while.

I was also called up for jury service for a while, as well. That was.. interesting.

Hee, thanks.
Was an interesting time away.

Yep, I'm back.
Missed me?

haha I'm trying! Thanks for the frubal

Thanks for the add, Bob

Most say the messiah will interpret them. The standard answer in the Orthodox world is simply that if there are any changes, the messiah will let us know, otherwise, it will be sacrifices as usual per the Second Temple routine. But for the non-Orthodox world, and those few Orthodox rabbis who envision some change, it is up for debate. Maybe there will be some symbolic recollection of animal sacrifice. Maybe prayer will officially, permanently replace sacrifice (it currently temporarily replaces sacrifice). Maybe rather than the animal sacrifices, we will focus on those offerings always brought of a non-animal nature: there was a bread-offering, a wine-offering, a water offering, the offerings of the first fruits, and an incense offering. Maybe those will be deemed sufficient. Or maybe it will be something else entirely, which we haven't yet imagined.

Thanks for the love frubals

Many in the Orthodox world will tell you that when the messiah comes and the Temple is rebuilt, we will sacrifice again. And, indeed, there are prayers for the restoration of both Temple and sacrifice in our daily liturgies. But most in non-Orthodox Judaism see these prayers as metaphorical-- a desire for a new kind of Temple, reflecting a perfected world, that need not involve animal sacrifice, but could embrace some sort of equivalent offerings not of a blood nature.

No takkanah was needed for the laws of sacrifice, though. Sacrifices were only permitted to be brought to the Temple-- nowhere else. Since there is no Temple, there can be no sacrifices. Simple as that.

You know, I don't know the exact origin of the takkanah l'akor davar min ha-torah. Takkanot in general were a long-standing tool of the Rabbis of the Talmud. Hillel the Elder is said to have innovated numerous key takkanot, as did Rabban Gamliel the Elder. There are numerous different kinds, for different reasons, though, and it was a tool widely used during transitional times-- at the close of the Second Temple Era, at the close of the Talmudic Period, at the end of the Gaonic Period-- when there simply were not sufficient precedents to adjudicate new kinds of cases.

To my knowledge, no one has actually done a full takkanah l'akor davar min ha torah. A kind of limited version of one was done in the early Middle Ages to seal the long-standing debate about whether we ought to be trying to follow the commandment of the sabbatical year cycle (the result: Jews in Exile definitely don't have to do so, Jews in Israel probably don't have to). There are various other kinds of takkanot, also not the same thing, but with some similar effects. Such as the takkanah of Rabbenu Gershom (around the year 1000), who banned polygamy, even though it is explicitly permitted in the Torah.

This would be new, but it can be done. It is extremely radical, but is an extant and established tool in the paradigm of Jewish Law. What would be done is that a court of at least three rabbis would write a responsum indicating why they feel this has to be done, and citing precedent and caselaw. Then they would issue a document of injunction.

Thanx for the lizardly frubie!

Hehe I love you to

Welcome back

So... magalaan called you a predator... XD

Oh, me too. It doesn't even look nice!

Re frubal message: It IS annoying!

I believe that we are under an oppressive system of control. We are control by what Christians call the powers and principalities of the cosmos. Gnostics call these beings the Archons, and they keep us enslaved and basically this world is a prison (sort of like the Matrix). My goal is to escape their control and help others do so. The institutions that we take for granted are those very things that are used to enslave. Most people aren't aware that they are under control and only a few have woken up to the fact those people are the Gnostic. I believe that Gnosticism is not only a religion but a means of resistance to the Powers

Any negative responses?

It's just linguistic commonality. You can't avoid it.

You tell an evangelical... "Yes, I love God, and She is good." That can begin to open an unnecessary can of worms, lol. Too bad we don't speak a language like, oh say, Tagalog, or Tahitian, where third gender pronouns are generally sex-free. Ey is beyond gender anyways, despite all trying to describe Em.

So how did you link me with gender-neutral third person pronouns with God?