Girls and boys and what are we doing wrong?

[Father Heathen]

No, you understood me. Male and female brains are different and we learned this in my Teaching Assistant training. Boys develop slower than girls and need more help. I don't see an issue here, it's just the way we grow.

So you're saying that a child's upbringing, what they're taught, what they observe and experience, etc. has zero impact on their behavior? That impressions, discipline, etc. are inconsequential? Nothing has influence?

 

[Rival]

So you're saying that a child's upbringing, what they're taught, what they observe and experience, etc. has zero impact on their behavior? That impressions, discipline, etc. are inconsequential? Nothing has influence?

No, I'm saying that nature plays a part and to ignore that is to ignore the reason why boys fall behind in the school systems. Male brains do no function as well at language as female brains do, for example, so they struggle with written and spoken communication. Girls, on the other hand, struggle with spatial awareness and thus hand-eye co-ordination doesn't come as easily to them. Boys focus more on objects whereas girls focus on people, which has been observed pretty much from birth, so boys tend to lack the networks that girls create. The school environment does very well for girls but not for boys, and this has been extensively discussed by those in this field.

 

[Rival]

Why So Many Male Students Are Falling Behind In School | Army And Navy Academy

Given all the news about male students falling behind in school and college, you may be wondering if there is a boy crisis in education.

www.armyandnavyacademy.org

This is a good resource for understanding this.

 

[InChrist]

I was reading about some scientific research. They took 10 girls and ten boys and put each group in a separate house without supervision for 5 days. Adults filmed the whole thing, and were there in case an emergency happened, but did not interfere with anything the kids did.

How the girls acted was enormously different from how the boys acted.

The first thing the boys did was trash the house and write all over the walls. Although they had taken a cooking course they did not cook or have meals together. They simply scrounged for easy snacks in the cupboards. They divided themselves into two antagonistic gangs. One boy was singled out for bullying.

The girls cooked, cleaned, and organized a fashion show for entertainment purposes. They did not divide into cliques. When a cat was found, they all wanted to take care of the cat.

So, folks... What the HECK are we doing wrong?


This study can be found on numerous sites: here are two

20 Kids Were Left Alone In A House For A Controversial Experiment. This Is What Happened.

There was a stark difference between how the boys and girls behaved.

www.iflscience.com

Boys And Girls Were Left Alone For 5 Days, The Experiment Revealed Eye-Opening Insights On How Both Groups Are Misjudged

Well, it looks like we know what would happen in a real-life Lord of the Flies scenario...

www.boredpanda.com

That’s the reason God designed male and female and for children to be raised in families- balance. My thoughts anyway.

 

[Quintessence]

No, I'm saying that nature plays a part and to ignore that is to ignore the reason why boys fall behind in the school systems. Male brains do no function as well at language as female brains do, for example, so they struggle with written and spoken communication. Girls, on the other hand, struggle with spatial awareness and thus hand-eye co-ordination doesn't come as easily to them. Boys focus more on objects whereas girls focus on people, which has been observed pretty much from birth, so boys tend to lack the networks that girls create. The school environment does very well for girls but not for boys, and this has been extensively discussed by those in this field.

I wonder when they'll start taking into account the non-binary nature of human identity and brain function. The alleged "male" brain and "female" brain narrative just always rubs me the wrong way. Probably because it in no way reflects my own experiences and these kinds of sexist stereotypes kind of effed up aspects of my childhood.

 

[Rival]

I wonder when they'll start taking into account the non-binary nature of human identity and brain function. The alleged "male" brain and "female" brain narrative just always rubs me the wrong way. Probably because it in no way reflects my own experiences and these kinds of sexist stereotypes kind of effed up aspects of my childhood.

As they're scientifically and psychologically backed I can't see them as stereotypes. It seems plain to me that men and women have evolved different functions for good reasons and I don't believe there's any sexism in that. I have a low-dopamine problem and don't really experience pleasure but the majority do, so I defer to the majority dopamine experience when it comes to dealing with people. There wouldn't be transgender people without a distinction in male and female brains, either.

 

[Kfox]

I was reading about some scientific research. They took 10 girls and ten boys and put each group in a separate house without supervision for 5 days. Adults filmed the whole thing, and were there in case an emergency happened, but did not interfere with anything the kids did.

How the girls acted was enormously different from how the boys acted.

The first thing the boys did was trash the house and write all over the walls. Although they had taken a cooking course they did not cook or have meals together. They simply scrounged for easy snacks in the cupboards. They divided themselves into two antagonistic gangs. One boy was singled out for bullying.

You aren't trying to give the impression that this is typical behavior for boys; are you? Because it is not. This is extremely bad behavior for boys.

The girls cooked, cleaned, and organized a fashion show for entertainment purposes. They did not divide into cliques. When a cat was found, they all wanted to take care of the cat.

You aren't suggesting this is typical behavior for girls are you? Because it is not; this is extremely good behavior for girls.

So, folks... What the HECK are we doing wrong?

It's called "cherry picking"; it's when you take very bad boys, and compare them to very good girls, and act as if this is typical behavior for both groups in order to make a point. This stuff happens all the time!

 

[Father Heathen]

No, I'm saying that nature plays a part and to ignore that is to ignore the reason why boys fall behind in the school systems. Male brains do no function as well at language as female brains do, for example, so they struggle with written and spoken communication. Girls, on the other hand, struggle with spatial awareness and thus hand-eye co-ordination doesn't come as easily to them. Boys focus more on objects whereas girls focus on people, which has been observed pretty much from birth, so boys tend to lack the networks that girls create. The school environment does very well for girls but not for boys, and this has been extensively discussed by those in this field.

Sorry, I misunderstood your post, which I suppose serves as an example of your point.

 

[Little Dragon]

I was reading about some scientific research. They took 10 girls and ten boys and put each group in a separate house without supervision for 5 days. Adults filmed the whole thing, and were there in case an emergency happened, but did not interfere with anything the kids did.

How the girls acted was enormously different from how the boys acted.

The first thing the boys did was trash the house and write all over the walls. Although they had taken a cooking course they did not cook or have meals together. They simply scrounged for easy snacks in the cupboards. They divided themselves into two antagonistic gangs. One boy was singled out for bullying.

The girls cooked, cleaned, and organized a fashion show for entertainment purposes. They did not divide into cliques. When a cat was found, they all wanted to take care of the cat.

So, folks... What the HECK are we doing wrong?


This study can be found on numerous sites: here are two

20 Kids Were Left Alone In A House For A Controversial Experiment. This Is What Happened.

There was a stark difference between how the boys and girls behaved.

www.iflscience.com

Boys And Girls Were Left Alone For 5 Days, The Experiment Revealed Eye-Opening Insights On How Both Groups Are Misjudged

Well, it looks like we know what would happen in a real-life Lord of the Flies scenario...

www.boredpanda.com

"Little girls are made of sugar and spice and all things nice, whilst little boys are made of slime and snails and puppy dog tails..."

Maybe there is some truth to the above old nursery rhyme.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

That’s the reason God designed male and female and for children to be raised in families- balance. My thoughts anyway.

What the heck does that mean? How does having half this kids in your family be kind and responsible, and the other half stay infantile, how exactly is that "balance?"

 

[Secret Chief]

pretty

Are we meaning the same thing with this word?

 

[Secret Chief]

So you're saying that a child's upbringing, what they're taught, what they observe and experience, etc. has zero impact on their behavior? That impressions, discipline, etc. are inconsequential? Nothing has influence?

I don't think it has to be either/or.

 

[Secret Chief]

Sorry, I misunderstood your post, which I suppose serves as an example of your point.

Haven't you noticed that women can neither reverse park nor read maps?

....{hides behind sofa}....

 

[JustGeorge]

Are we meaning the same thing with this word?

Of course not. I have good taste, and you don't.

 

[Secret Chief]

Of course not. I have good taste, and you don't.

Don't pussyfoot around; say what you think. Anyhoo, aren't you mixing me up with @SalixIncendium ? You told me that I was - quote - immaculate.

 

[JustGeorge]

Don't pussyfoot around; say what you think. Anyhoo, aren't you mixing me up with @SalixIncendium ? You told me that I was - quote - immaculate.

@SalixIncendium is... exceptional, for sure.

This isn't the "something a member would never say" thread, so you know.

 

[Secret Chief]

This isn't the "something a member would never say" thread, so you know.

Ah, sorry, I got confused by post #54.

 

[Little Dragon]

That’s the reason God designed male and female and for children to be raised in families- balance. My thoughts anyway.

In reality of course, a family is any group of people that live together and look out for each other.

 

[JustGeorge]

Ah, sorry, I got confused by post #54.

Its not hard to confuse you...

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I believe the definitive book on the subject was "Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus" by John Grey.