IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
I'm sorry if it came across that way. It is not what I meant to convey.
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what makes a Christian?
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stvdv
Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Thank you, very clear now
I fully agree with you, and I will also never blame addicts. I know my own addictions, how could I ever blame others of their addictions (mine was emotional eating...more than I actually need, and foods that are not good for my health, like fried food, baked foods, coffee, excess protein, oil and salt. spices....cutting it all out took time, not easy at all, hence addiction)
paarsurrey
Veteran Member
" what makes a Christian? "
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Aren't all the basic creeds of the present day Christian denominations (45,000+ of them , including the JWs and LDS aka Mormons) later fabrications and none of these basic creeds was ever originated from Jesus- the truthful Israelite Messiah, please?
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lukethethird
unknown member
All religions are based on superstition, hope that helps.
Oh good. Yet another RF scholar that has studied "all" religions.
lukethethird
unknown member
Of course your religion is not superstition, yours is the True religion.
lukethethird
unknown member
Religion is a euphemism for superstition, hope this helps.Well, it is for me. But while we're on the subject...
Actually, your comments in this thread have been quite helpful.
They've demonstrated that you take shots at religion because you are in complete ignorance of what religion is and can only spout atheist rhetoric.
Thank you for the insight.
Muffled
Jesus in me
I believe there is no purely true religion. There is God's truth and everything else isn't
lukethethird
unknown member
I see religion for the superstition that it is, it asks to be ridiculed so I oblige.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Part of the situation (or problem) is: faithful to what? I have been reading 2 Chronicles 13 and it is MOST informative, regarding the difference of worship between the northern tribes of Israel and the southern tribes. All claiming somehow to worship the same God. I hope you get a chance to read it. The point is: either God is pleased with our worship, or He is not. According to the scriptures, it's not an "iffy" thing.
YoursTrue
Faith-confidence in what we hope for (Hebrews 11)
Clearly some things are not true, or true. For instance, M. Schneerson is a big topic for many, and where I live there's a big billboard with his picture . Many adherents. I guess some just don't like to admit what's true, and/or there.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I do not believe that Isaiah is about Jesus, I believe it is about Baha'u'llah, since He fulfilled all the verses.
Regarding Isaiah 53:3, Jesus was despised and rejected by certain Jews who wanted Him executed, but He was not rejected by most men. Jesus was a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief, but He was esteemed by many men.
Certainly, Isaiah 53:4 and Isaiah 53:5 can apply to Jesus. However, Isaiah 53:8, Isaiah 53:9, and Isaiah 53:10 cannot apply to Jesus because Jesus was not taken from prison and from judgment, Jesus did not make His grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death. Jesus made his soul an offering for sin, but He did not see his seed and His days were not prolonged, so there is no way Isaiah 53:10 can be about Jesus, and that is why we know it is about someone else who would be the Messiah of the end times.
In what verses did Jesus claim to be the Messiah?
I believe that Jesus was 'a messiah' but not the Messiah of the end times.
King Phenomenon
Well-Known Member
To believe Jesus was physically resurrected.
muhammad_isa
Well-Known Member
In that case, it wasn't possible to be a Christian before Jesus was sentenced to death.
*winner*In that case, it wasn't possible to be a Christian before Jesus was sentenced to death.
Yes. I think that the essential and original concept of Christianity is the acceptance of the particular Christian redefinition of the term “faith” (English faith comes, through French, from Latin fides, in Classical and earlier Latin that meant “loyalty”, but as redefined by the early Christians it came to have an additional sense in Ecclesiastical Latin: “confidence in what one cannot comprehend”), and the idea that said “faith” is the necessary ingredient for one’s ultimate well being. This was the irrationalizing of religion, which before that had never demanded taking the internal, mental appreciation of supernatural propositions so seriously. The supernatural “Christ” is a secondary principle, a concept created by Saul of Tarsus as the necessary object of “faith” as he imagined “faith” to mean. In this, it is important to realize that Saul’s “Christ” is not the historical Jesus, whom Saul never met and apparently knew little about, nor is it the Jewish mashiach, though he used a translation of the name of that Hebrew concept to name his own. It is with the Pauline conception of faith that Christianity departed from all religions which had existed theretofore.
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Trailblazer
Veteran Member
To believe that Jesus died on the cross for the sins of humanity.