Comrade Biden threatens to shut down all coal plants in America.

[Subduction Zone]

I stay with reality. Not some fantastical leftest insulated echo chamber comprising unrealistic and impractical forced and mandated agendas.

That coming red wave will prove who are the rational ones because they experienced first hand what Democrats are all about, and what they actually do to people.

Sorry, but when you don't. You have been swallowed up by a far far right echo chamber and you are totally unaware of it. Part of your mind understands science, but then there is a disconnect when you try to apply science to your false beliefs. Look at how inconsistent you are when it comes to AGW for example.

You are the one that refuses to use reliable sources. That is because only far right loons print the articles that you like. You won't find those claims at Reuters or the AP.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Sorry, but when you don't. You have been swallowed up by a far far right echo chamber and you are totally unaware of it. Part of your mind understands science, but then there is a disconnect when you try to apply science to your false beliefs. Look at how inconsistent you are when it comes to AGW for example.

You are the one that refuses to use reliable sources. That is because only far right loons print the articles that you like. You won't find those claims at Reuters or the AP.

Nope. I stay with what I see and experience for myself as others do.

Nice try with your unrealistic opinions.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Nope. I stay with what I see and experience for myself as others do.

Nice try with your unrealistic opinions.

And that is how one fools oneself. You are merely responding to your own personal prejudices. Not reality. If you cannot support your claims with valid evidence the odds are that you are wrong.

 

[Twilight Hue]

And that is how one fools oneself. You are merely responding to your own personal prejudices. Not reality. If you cannot support your claims with valid evidence the odds are that you are wrong.

More unrealistic opinions.

Life dosent require any verification. It's obvious enough so as I , and others for that matter, don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else.

 

[Subduction Zone]

More unrealistic opinions.

Life dosent require any verification. It's obvious enough so as I , and others for that matter, don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else.

That is exactly what a creationist would say for his or her beliefs. Sorry, but evidence is how one checks to see if one's beliefs are valid. Don't worry. I understand. It really sucks when reality is against you.

 

[Secret Chief]

Biden Vows to Shut Down Coal Plants ‘All Across America’

Our great Supreme leader in a firey speech to take control of the means of production threatens the coal industry.

Rejoice comrades at how the deep state is poised to destroy people's businesses and livelihoods!

Hail to our glorious supreme chairman who like China is the one and only true authority in all the land.

One leader, one voice, one authority!

Have you tried decaff? Or reducing sugar consumption?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Really? Are you serious?

Why wouldn't it happen? Do you think people like paying more for technology that pollutes more?

Exactly what electric cars do. Just not here though so it's ok I guess?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Exactly what electric cars do. Just not here though so it's ok I guess?

No, electric cars pollute less. They are the future of the automotive industry. Do you want to know why?

 

[esmith]

No, electric cars pollute less. They are the future of the automotive industry. Do you want to know why?

Hmmm, seems there may be a problem in EV land
The Environmental Downside of Electric Vehicles

 

[Subduction Zone]

Hmmm, seems there may be a problem in EV land
The Environmental Downside of Electric Vehicles

No one has claimed that EV's are perfect. But if you want to convince anyone you need to find a reliable source. Don't rely on a dishonest one.

 

[Wildswanderer]

No, electric cars pollute less.

Creating them pollutes and the huge batteries are forever pollution.

 

[esmith]

No one has claimed that EV's are perfect. But if you want to convince anyone you need to find a reliable source. Don't rely on a dishonest one.

Oh,you mean one that agrees with you

 

[Twilight Hue]

That is exactly what a creationist would say for his or her beliefs. Sorry, but evidence is how one checks to see if one's beliefs are valid. Don't worry. I understand. It really sucks when reality is against you.

It does suck.

Enjoy your fantasy versions of a Democrat utopia though.

 

[Subduction Zone]

It does suck.

Enjoy your fantasy versions of a Democrat utopia though.

Using a strawman argument is just another way of admitting that you are wrong. You do not even appear to be fooling yourself any longer.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Creating them pollutes and the huge batteries are forever pollution.

No, those batteries are not the throw away kind. They are recycled.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Oh,you mean one that agrees with you

Well since I do follow the evidence it is a given that a proper source will "agree" with me. The problem was that you used an openly lying and dishonest source.


Only ignorant Kool Aid drinkers will be impressed by an article like that.

 

[Wildswanderer]

No, those batteries are not the throw away kind. They are recycled.

Lol, no battery lasts forever.

While most EV components are much the same as those of conventional cars, the big difference is the battery. While traditional lead-acid batteries are widely recycled, the same can't be said for the lithium-ion versions used in electric cars.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Lol, no battery lasts forever.

While most EV components are much the same as those of conventional cars, the big difference is the battery. While traditional lead-acid batteries are widely recycled, the same can't be said for the lithium-ion versions used in electric cars.

I know. The batteries are recycled. Don't you know what that means? All of the important elements are still there. They can be reprocessed and made into new batteries. There is no need to constantly mine for lithium, nickel, etc.

And what makes you think that they cannot recycle lithium ion batteries?

 

[Wildswanderer]

I know. The batteries are recycled. Don't you know what that means? All of the important elements are still there. They can be reprocessed and made into new batteries. There is no need to constantly mine for lithium, nickel, etc.

And what makes you think that they cannot recycle lithium ion batteries/

They are claiming that used batteries will be recycled. However, the truth is being swept under the rug. None of the lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles are easily recyclable.
It's not cost efficient to recycle them, and there's little incentive to do so
Without these incentives, lithium-ion batteries will be dumped, incinerated, or exported to countries with weaker standards, where they will contaminate the environment and threaten public health.

 

[Subduction Zone]

They are claiming that used batteries will be recycled. However, the truth is being swept under the rug. None of the lithium-ion batteries in electric vehicles are easily recyclable.
It's not cost efficient to recycle them, and there's little incentive to do so
Without these incentives, lithium-ion batteries will be dumped, incinerated, or exported to countries with weaker standards, where they will contaminate the environment and threaten public health.

Find a valid source that supports that claim. I am betting that you cannot do so.