"Police: Woman killed man who fired AR-15-style rifle into party crowd

[We Never Know]

We have a professional army which is more than enough to deter a Russian invading force (not a nuclear attack but what good do guns do in a nuclear launch?).

As for China they have enough people in their country that they would probably defeat us in an invasion, but at the expense of having Australian coal and uranium supply cut until they could successfully commandeer it which would probably cause them enough casualties and unrest back home to make war unfeasible for them anyway.

In my opinion.

How would Ukraine be doing without the US sending them guns/weapons for their army and civilians?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

You are not going to get rid of guns whether legal or illegal.
Schools seem to be a top choice of shooters because in my opinion kids and unarmed people/teachers.
If teachers want to participate and train to carry, whats the harm?

I agree, there are too many guns in America to get rid of, but we could regulate them better.

The harm would be teachers have guns. Guns are weapons, and being in school increases the risk of them being used. There is also the possibility of teachers using the fear of guns for compliance, or kids needing to deal with the emotional impact of there teacher being harmed.

 

[F1fan]

Guns will always be around whether legal or illegal.
A gun in the wrong hands is deadly, however a gun in the right hands saves lives.

The cycle of violence that is a stain on American culture. This caused the deaths of 19 children and 2 teachers last week. Try to make it sound virtuous and outside of rational control all you like, it is a sickness that so many try to defend the status quo, and accept more death and destroyed lives.

 

[We Never Know]

I agree, there are too many guns in America to get rid of, but we could regulate them better.

The harm would be teachers have guns. Guns are weapons, and being in school increases the risk of them being used. There is also the possibility of teachers using the fear of guns for compliance, or kids needing to deal with the emotional impact of there teacher being harmed.

America would'nt be America without guns.
We would all be Brits.

 

[We Never Know]

The cycle of violence that is a stain on American culture. This caused the deaths of 19 children and 2 teachers last week. Try to make it sound virtuous and outside of rational control all you like, it is a sickness that so many try to defend the status quo, and accept more death and destroyed lives.

And many times saved just as many people. But you ignore that.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

America would'nt be America without guns.
We would all be Brits.

So to avoid regulation, we should put guns in schools because...'Murica?

 

[Revoltingest]

I agree, there are too many guns in America to get rid of, but we could regulate them better.

The harm would be teachers have guns. Guns are weapons, and being in school increases the risk of them being used. There is also the possibility of teachers using the fear of guns for compliance, or kids needing to deal with the emotional impact of there teacher being harmed.

Not all teachers should be armed. Prolly most
aren't suited for the responsibility. But forcing
all teachers to be unarmed didn't save that
teacher in Texas.

Edit....
The open advertising that all school staff are
completely unarmed is possibly attractive to
misanthropes bent on mayhem. What purpose
does it serve to openly proclaim that an unprotected
facility full of vulnerable people is defenseless?

 

[The Hammer]

No its not spin. It's just being realistic.

A psychopath will attempt kill by any means available.

And a gun makes it a lot easier to do so quickly and efficiently

 

[We Never Know]

So to avoid regulation, we should put guns in schools because...'Murica?

Non sequitur. Legal or illegal guns will be here. Shooters target schools because in my opinion kids and unarmed people/teachers.
If teachers want to participate and train to carry, whats the harm?

PS: ^^^^^ that is a question.

 

[We Never Know]

Not all teachers should be armed. Prolly most
aren't suited for the responsibility. But forcing
all teachers to be unarmed didn't save that
teacher in Texas.

Which is why I have said many times "If teachers want to participate and train to carry, whats the harm?"

Plus I know many veterans that would be willing.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Not all teachers should be armed. Prolly most
aren't suited for the responsibility. But forcing
all teachers to be unarmed didn't save that
teacher in Texas.

Non-sequitor. A variety of things could have saved the teacher's life that day, and arming the teacher may not have helped either.

 

[Suave]

You know what the evil anti gun crowd is going to say.

If the crazed gunman had been wearing body armor, then nobody might have been able to stop the gunman (*armed*) with his AR-15 from massacring most persons in the entire party of 40 people. No civilian has any legitimate business to conduct with an AR-15 rifle,

 

[We Never Know]

Non-sequitor. A variety of things could have saved the teacher's life that day, and arming the teacher may not have helped either.

And if guns were illegal, it may not have helped either.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Non sequitur. Legal or illegal guns will be here. Shooters target schools because in my opinion kids and unarmed people/teachers.
If teachers want to participate and train to carry, whats the harm?

PS: ^^^^^ that is a question.

Not a non sequitor, you clearly stated: "America would'nt be America without guns. We would all be Brits."

Your argument there was literally:

Guns are important to America, so we should arm teachers.

 

[We Never Know]

If the crazed gunman had been wearing body armor, then nobody might have been able to stop the gunman with his AR-15 from massacring most persons in the entire party of 40 people. No civilian has any legitimate business to conduct with an AR-15 rifle,

Body armor is no match for a well placed head shot.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

And if guns were illegal, it may not have helped either.

True. But I am not making that argument.

 

[We Never Know]

Not a non sequitor, you clearly stated: "America would'nt be America without guns. We would all be Brits."

Your argument there was literally:

Guns are important to America, so we should arm teachers.

Were teachers mentioned in that post or was it referring to the American Revolution?

 

[danieldemol]

The anti-gun crowd is loath to admit that any
use of a gun in self defense is good. It just
ruins a perfectly palatable narrative.

I have no problem acknowledging the lady was a hero, I just question why we are relying on heroes that may or may not eventuate as opposed to legislation which would be permanently in place to save the children.
In my opinion.

 

[We Never Know]

True. But I am not making that argument.

Of course you aren't. You think if we ban what you think is bad, then bad won't happen.
You just as well pray. You get the same result.

 

[Suave]

Body armor is no match for a well placed head shot.

Was the off duty police officer able to shoot the gunman's head?