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How could someone be insulted

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I wonder how someone can be insulted by a person who only ask questions, to clerify what the other person actually mean in discussion.

I can understand if someone directly try to offend, that people get insulted, but in a normal discussion?
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
I wonder how someone can be insulted by a person who only ask questions, to clerify what the other person actually mean in discussion.

I can understand if someone directly try to offend, that people get insulted, but in a normal discussion?
There are plenty of ways, the most obvious being to ask questions that imply the other person must be some kind of idiot. Questions can be asked neutrally, but they can also be given a certain "spin", or can be thought by the recipient have "spin" even if they are in fact being asked innocently. It can also be annoying if a person simply asks question all the time, without responding to the answers they receive in a way that shows they have understood them.

If someone mistakenly takes offence, it may be necessary for the questioner to clarify their intent, to remove the suspicion and maintain good relations.
 
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Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
There are plenty of ways, the most obvious being to ask questions that imply the other person must be some kind of idiot. Questions can be asked neutrally, but they also be given a certain "spin", or can be thought by the recipient have "spin" even if they are in fact being asked innocently. It can also be annoying if a person simply asks question all the time, without responding to the answers they receive in a way that shows they have understood them.

If someone mistakenly takes offence, it may be necessary for the questioner to clarify their intent, to remove the suspicion and maintain good relations.
What if the person who are asked do not answer questions, but avoid every attempt on giving a clear answer, would you try to gain an answer, or just leave?
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I wonder how someone can be insulted by a person who only ask questions, to clerify what the other person actually mean in discussion.

I can understand if someone directly try to offend, that people get insulted, but in a normal discussion?


Asking questions that cannot be answered without discrediting ones beliefs.
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
I wonder how someone can be insulted by a person who only ask questions, to clerify what the other person actually mean in discussion.

I can understand if someone directly try to offend, that people get insulted, but in a normal discussion?

Either by the questioner not being impeccable with their word, the questionee making assumptions, or both.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I wonder how someone can be insulted by a person who only ask questions, to clerify what the other person actually mean in discussion.

I can understand if someone directly try to offend, that people get insulted, but in a normal discussion?
Often - and this post would be a good example - questions can come across as loaded or biased, so they create the impression that the OP isn't actually trying to clarify, but has other motives for the questions.
 

mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Asking questions that cannot be answered without discrediting ones beliefs.

Well, as a skeptic I have to discredit beliefs including my own. That is how doubt works in a cognitive/psychology sense. It involves a negative and you can call it discredit if you like, but sometimes it is not. It is a negative that the person takes as a discredit.
 
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mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
Often - and this post would be a good example - questions can come across as loaded or biased, so they create the impression that the OP isn't actually trying to clarify, but has other motives for the questions.

Well, there is also a core problem. Some people haven't learned how cognitive dissonance connects to learning and how there are different negatives.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The OP is actually with no biased i honestly seeking answer
You say that, but I'm not sure. Your behaviour doesn't seem to match what you say are your motives. That's what creates mistrust.

Generally, a lot of your questions that are phrased like "can someone explain _____?" come across as "I can't understand how _____ is believable, so I want people who believe it to justify themselves to me." A lot of your posts sure do seem phrased to get people who you disagree with defensive right away.

That's my impression, anyhow.
 

exchemist

Veteran Member
What if the person who are asked do not answer questions, but avoid every attempt on giving a clear answer, would you try to gain an answer, or just leave?
If it's clear they are avoiding, rather than just failing to understand what kind of answer is being sought, then you may want to tell them that is what you think they are doing, to give them a last chance. But after that, you probably have to drop it.
 
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mikkel_the_dane

My own religion
The OP is actually with no biased i honestly seeking answer

Biased question: How come you don't understand Truth like me?
Open question: How do you understand truth and how do you explain that there are different versions of truth?

For the open one, some one can be insulted, because they believe that they are wrong/irrational/delusional and so on, if they don't believe in the version of truth, that they believe in. That has nothing to do with religion or not. And not even truth. It also applies to some version of what the world/universe/reality/everything, real, the meaning of life is and so on.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
What if the person who are asked do not answer questions, but avoid every attempt on giving a clear answer, would you try to gain an answer, or just leave?
If this happens a lot with different people, I would ask myself what it is in my posts that's eliciting that response.

What you're describing is the response from someone who doesn't trust you. Ask yourself what you've done to earn their trust.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
You say that, but I'm not sure. Your behaviour doesn't seem to match what you say are your motives. That's what creates mistrust.

Generally, a lot of your questions that are phrased like "can someone explain _____?" come across as "I can't understand how _____ is believable, so I want people who believe it to justify themselves to me." A lot of your posts sure do seem phrased to get people who you disagree with defensive right away.

That's my impression, anyhow.
I asked a question in the OP because I do not understand how someone can feel insulted by normal questions.

No motive to hurt or harm anyone.
My questions are asked to learn or understand
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
If this happens a lot with different people, I would ask myself what it is in my posts that's eliciting that response.

What you're describing is the response from someone who doesn't trust you. Ask yourself what you've done to earn their trust.
The OP and the question you qoute here is not just about how I understand or experience others non responsive answers to questions.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I asked a question in the OP because I do not understand how someone can feel insulted by normal questions.
There's one example of bias: this post - and your OP - aren't willing to even entertain the possibility that your questions come across as anything other than "normal" and unbiased.

No motive to hurt or harm anyone.
My questions are asked to learn or understand
Like I said: your questions generally aren't in line with what others woukd expect from someone who actually holds this motivation.

Only you know if you're being sincere; if you are, then I think you could communicate more clearly to help prevent misunderstandings.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I'm insulted when the opinions I post are not attacked by those who don't agree with them.
Isn't the goal to discover the objective truth of things? How am I to correct errors in my facts or reasoning if they're not pointed out by others?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
The OP and the question you qoute here is not just about how I understand or experience others non responsive answers to questions.
And what I said applies across the board: evasive answers usually suggest the person answering lacks trust in the person who asked the original question.

For instance, if someone thinks a question might be meant to be a rhetorical trap, they'll try to get more context before giving a direct answer to the question.

If the discussion up to that point has created the impression in the other poster that they're in an adversarial situation, we shouldn't expect automatic cooperation.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
There's one example of bias: this post - and your OP - aren't willing to even entertain the possibility that your questions come across as anything other than "normal" and unbiased.


Like I said: your questions generally aren't in line with what others woukd expect from someone who actually holds this motivation.

Only you know if you're being sincere; if you are, then I think you could communicate more clearly to help prevent misunderstandings.
I am always sincere in my question in RF as long it isnot placed in the joke section.

Are you trying to insult me in a thread about being insulted? Very smart move....
 
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