Being a gay Christian

[an anarchist]

Is being gay a sin? A protestant Christian will tell you "yes". I was raised in a protestant family so this post will focus on their specific beliefs.
Gotquestions is great site ... to get a good idea of what general protestant views are on topics.
Is being gay a sin? Is it a sin to be gay? | GotQuestions.org
To someone in the LGBTQ community, being told that your sexual orientation is akin to the sin of theft and r*pe is offensive. It certainly is. stupid site
If a Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should question what about being gay is a sin.
Let's say, hypothetically of course, the Christian God is real and He has declared that gay is sin. So what is the sin? Is it the love that a man feels for another man? Is that the sin, then? Certainly not. How can love be a sin, when love is God Himself? But yet being gay is a sin. But not the love part. Ah! So it must be intimate activities between two same gendered people that is a sin. But wait! Suppose two men are not intimate in that way. There was a time when it was commonplace for people to wait until marriage. So two boyfriends, how can they be in sin if they simply love one another? I think the answer is lack of submission to God.
Is eating fruit a sin? If you ask Adam or Eve, they might say "yes". But its not a sin. In fact, eating fruit is healthy. Adam and Eve sinned by eating fruit, though. It was sin because lack of submission to God. In this way, being gay is a sin, if it is a sin.
The Christian God says we do not have the right to choose who we love. We must follow His parameters. They must be a child of God, just as you are. And of course, they must be opposite gender. There doesn't have to be anything inherently wrong with being gay. Could God had made it a sin because He demands our submission?
I recently discovered that I am a gay man. For me it is a dilemma. I know that I cannot be in a straight relationship, I have tried. I am gay. So I left my partner.
The dilemma for me is this. I intend to be a Nazirite.(an Israelite consecrated to the service of God, under vows to abstain from alcohol, let the hair grow, and avoid defilement by contact with corpses (Num. 6).)
My name is Samuel. My mother died when I was a babe but she left behind the testimony of an angel. She was a literal angel on earth, this I'm sure. My grandmother told me that my mother named me Samuel because of the Bible. So I read the Bible and found that Samuel and Samson were the only two Nazirites of the Bible (excluding Paul). Samson and Samuel's nazirite vows were unique from Paul's, however. Both of them were put under the nazirite vow before they were born. With Samuel specifically, it was the mother's idea to make him a nazirite.
So, due to the testimony that my mother left behind and the name she gave me, I understood her intentions for me in this life. I was to be a nazirite.
I have tried taking the vow several times. Only two times amounted to any serious amount of time, most recently i went without drinking, visiting my mothers grave, or cutting my hair for years. However, even if I do those things while under oath, I must be a ardent servant of God. So what if I don't cut my hair, if I am religiously apathetic. To be a nazirite means to be an active servant of God, it is part of the vow. I slipped into religious apathy, so I started drinking and shaved recently. The point is that I'm serious about being a nazirite, it is one of the main driving motivations in my life.
The question I suppose this whole post is leading up to is this: can I be a gay Nazirite? I have the option in my life to stay single. I am not my emotions. If my emotions dictate to me that I am gay, then must I abandon any romantic pursuits, if I am to be a nazirite? Is being gay a sin? I don't know, it's something I'm struggling with deeply. I grew up around homophobia and was extremely homophobic myself. I still am a bit. If it is a sin, it is a sin simply because God says so, not because love is wrong.
I can live a gay lifestyle and be more of a casual Christian. I wouldn't have qualms with that. I smoke cigarettes and drink the occasional beer, yet I still have a relationship with God. Those are sins. So I'd be fine with myself if I had a boyfriend, I don't think God would cast me away. But if I am to be a Nazirite, I have to hold myself to the highest standards. For example, I can't smoke cigarettes or drink as a Nazirite. I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

 

[Orbit]

Is being gay a sin? A protestant Christian will tell you "yes". I was raised in a protestant family so this post will focus on their specific beliefs.
Gotquestions is great site ... to get a good idea of what general protestant views are on topics.
Is being gay a sin? Is it a sin to be gay? | GotQuestions.org
To someone in the LGBTQ community, being told that your sexual orientation is akin to the sin of theft and r*pe is offensive. It certainly is. stupid site
If a Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should question what about being gay is a sin.
Let's say, hypothetically of course, the Christian God is real and He has declared that gay is sin. So what is the sin? Is it the love that a man feels for another man? Is that the sin, then? Certainly not. How can love be a sin, when love is God Himself? But yet being gay is a sin. But not the love part. Ah! So it must be intimate activities between two same gendered people that is a sin. But wait! Suppose two men are not intimate in that way. There was a time when it was commonplace for people to wait until marriage. So two boyfriends, how can they be in sin if they simply love one another? I think the answer is lack of submission to God.
Is eating fruit a sin? If you ask Adam or Eve, they might say "yes". But its not a sin. In fact, eating fruit is healthy. Adam and Eve sinned by eating fruit, though. It was sin because lack of submission to God. In this way, being gay is a sin, if it is a sin.
The Christian God says we do not have the right to choose who we love. We must follow His parameters. They must be a child of God, just as you are. And of course, they must be opposite gender. There doesn't have to be anything inherently wrong with being gay. Could God had made it a sin because He demands our submission?
I recently discovered that I am a gay man. For me it is a dilemma. I know that I cannot be in a straight relationship, I have tried. I am gay. So I left my partner.
The dilemma for me is this. I intend to be a Nazirite.(an Israelite consecrated to the service of God, under vows to abstain from alcohol, let the hair grow, and avoid defilement by contact with corpses (Num. 6).)
My name is Samuel. My mother died when I was a babe but she left behind the testimony of an angel. She was a literal angel on earth, this I'm sure. My grandmother told me that my mother named me Samuel because of the Bible. So I read the Bible and found that Samuel and Samson were the only two Nazirites of the Bible (excluding Paul). Samson and Samuel's nazirite vows were unique from Paul's, however. Both of them were put under the nazirite vow before they were born. With Samuel specifically, it was the mother's idea to make him a nazirite.
So, due to the testimony that my mother left behind and the name she gave me, I understood her intentions for me in this life. I was to be a nazirite.
I have tried taking the vow several times. Only two times amounted to any serious amount of time, most recently i went without drinking, visiting my mothers grave, or cutting my hair for years. However, even if I do those things while under oath, I must be a ardent servant of God. So what if I don't cut my hair, if I am religiously apathetic. To be a nazirite means to be an active servant of God, it is part of the vow. I slipped into religious apathy, so I started drinking and shaved recently. The point is that I'm serious about being a nazirite, it is one of the main driving motivations in my life.
The question I suppose this whole post is leading up to is this: can I be a gay Nazirite? I have the option in my life to stay single. I am not my emotions. If my emotions dictate to me that I am gay, then must I abandon any romantic pursuits, if I am to be a nazirite? Is being gay a sin? I don't know, it's something I'm struggling with deeply. I grew up around homophobia and was extremely homophobic myself. I still am a bit. If it is a sin, it is a sin simply because God says so, not because love is wrong.
I can live a gay lifestyle and be more of a casual Christian. I wouldn't have qualms with that. I smoke cigarettes and drink the occasional beer, yet I still have a relationship with God. Those are sins. So I'd be fine with myself if I had a boyfriend, I don't think God would cast me away. But if I am to be a Nazirite, I have to hold myself to the highest standards. For example, I can't smoke cigarettes or drink as a Nazirite. I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

Ecclesiastes 7:16
“Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?”

 

[an anarchist]

Ecclesiastes 7:16
“Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself?”

It seems I forget about this quite often. Thanks!

 

[Aštra’el]

Christianity is not for everyone... because not everyone is willing to sacrifice enough, or make the necessary adjustments to their lifestyle and Weltanschauung. This goes for many other religions as well.

 

[Truthseeker]

The Christian God says we do not have the right to choose who we love. We must follow His parameters. They must be a child of God, just as you are. And of course, they must be opposite gender. There doesn't have to be anything inherently wrong with being gay. Could God had made it a sin because He demands our submission?
I recently discovered that I am a gay man. For me it is a dilemma. I know that I cannot be in a straight relationship, I have tried. I am gay. So I left my partner.

I'm a Baha'i, and there's nothing wrong with being gay in my religion. However sexual relations between gay people is a sin. According to Moses, sexual relations between gay people is a sin. It says nothing there about being gay is a sin. Jesus is silent on this matter, at least in what was recorded of His sayings, so possibly we could presume that the situation is unchanged.

I'm married to a gay woman, and it makes no difference to me. Love has nothing to do with sex, not real love.

 

[Bree]

The question I suppose this whole post is leading up to is this: can I be a gay Nazirite? I have the option in my life to stay single. I am not my emotions. If my emotions dictate to me that I am gay, then must I abandon any romantic pursuits, if I am to be a nazirite? Is being gay a sin? I don't know, it's something I'm struggling with deeply. I grew up around homophobia and was extremely homophobic myself. I still am a bit. If it is a sin, it is a sin simply because God says so, not because love is wrong.
I can live a gay lifestyle and be more of a casual Christian. I wouldn't have qualms with that. I smoke cigarettes and drink the occasional beer, yet I still have a relationship with God. Those are sins. So I'd be fine with myself if I had a boyfriend, I don't think God would cast me away. But if I am to be a Nazirite, I have to hold myself to the highest standards. For example, I can't smoke cigarettes or drink as a Nazirite. I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

i think you already know the answer to your own question, you've answered it succinctly.

Ok so you are attracted to the same sex, you know that Gods laws forbid that. Having such an attraction is not the problem, we are imperfect and surrounded by a world which promotes all manner of sin. The problem is acting on it when you know it is against Gods laws.

So the only thing you can do is decide what is more important to you, what gives you the greater fulfillment, what is in your best interest and what will offer you the best outcome.

If God is important to you, then you know you need to put the other interests aside and focus on your relationship with God. If you persue something that is against Gods standards, you know he will abandon you. So choose wisely.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Is being gay a sin?

Here is some thinking about it from a previous post in a thread about how silly it is to outlaw homosexuality:

A Chick tract titled The Gay Blade would have you believe that Sodom was destroyed because of homosexuality, but that is a lie. It is a lie and viciously poisonous one which has done much to destroy lives here in the USA.

One of the major prophets tells us what the evil of Sodom and Gomorrah is, and they don't say it is about sex. They say it is about rich people and oppression, oppressing poor people. That is the sin of Sodom and of Gomorrah as described by the prophet Ezekiel, and this bears up reading the story with this in mind.

When the LORD tells Abraham that the city Sodom is to be destroyed the reason given is not "sex between males" but "cries that have reached unto heaven." Sodom is a violent city, called 'Wicked' for the same reasons that the people before the Flood were called 'Wicked'. They were violent and were destroyed by a flood. Sodom was violent and was destroyed by fire from the sky.

After Abraham destroys the enemies of Sodom and Gomorrah to save his nephew, Lot, the king of Sodom offers Abraham slaves which Abraham refuses. He doesn't merely refuse but says he won't accept even a thong of a sandal. He is a man who loves people and chooses to live in peace and seals this by giving a tithe to the priest of justice Melchizedek who rules in that city named 'Peace'. It is Melchizedek whom Abraham allies with in the end and breaks with Sodom, because Sodom is an oppressive city which kidnaps and enslaves unwary travelers. That is the evil of Sodom, not homosexuality.

"But!" that Chick tract will say "The men of Sodom were going to rape him!" When the men of the city tell Lot that its just about sex they are lying. Lot offers them his daughters who are far more desireable for sex; but no they want the new people. They don't want to rape them. They want to enslave them.

And so you see that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is not at all what was presented in the Chick tract nor what was preached by Jerry Falwell who claimed to be a prophet nor by so damned many men who pranced upon the stage and who so many put their faith in. It is not at all what Pat Robertson says. Its not what Kenneth Copeland says. Its not even what many Catholics and Lutherans and Calvinists and all kinds of people have said. All of them are ignorant and have shown themselves to be unreliable witnesses and patsies and have done harm to people who ought to have been left alone.

There is and has been a lot of confusion about this topic, so cheer up. Christianity begins as something known as a prophetic movement. That is, it attempts to bring the world closer to an unrevealed ideal of heavenly perfection. If we knew what that perfection was and how to make it happen here we would not pray "Thy kingdom come thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven." (Matthew 6:10) If we knew then Paul would not say "For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." (I Corinthians 13:12) That passage about brown glass is actually about looking into a mirror, and mirrors of this time have a lot of distortion. Why don't we know how all people should live when there is a Torah? It clearly defines how Jews should live. We know how people who keep the Torah should live. That is known. What we don't know is what the transformed world must be like. That is in the future, so all along we have had people hashing it out, researching it. The first were the early Christians and then the church fathers who often disagreed. Disagreement is guaranteed, because we see as through a poor mirror Its unclear as yet how to make everything be heavenly.

What we do in the mean time is forgive other people, and of course there has to be mental discipline, the growth of the fruits of the spirit. We cannot live like mere animals. We must be also a step better than merely normal, because we are to be raising the bar for what it means to live on the ground.

Here is the second passage in the NT about mirrors:

"[Jas 1:23-27 KJV] 23 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass: 24 For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was. 25 But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth [therein], he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed. 26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion [is] vain. 27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world."​

Why does James call it the perfect law of liberty? It is likely because the Torah gives freedom to Jews but cannot free the entire world or has been unable to so far. What, then, is that perfect law which will bring liberty to all people? This is what James says to gaze into, to seek. When you look into scripture look for that. It cannot simply be laissez fair but must also not be screws to the hands.

 

[Rival]

I'm just curious how you would go about this, given you have to give three offerings after you're done. Being a Nazarite is not a permanent state.

 

[Brickjectivity]

So here is a very strict but fair comment by whoever wrote 2 Peter.

[2Pe 1:4-8 KJV] 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make [you that ye shall] neither [be] barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.​

As you can see all lust is considered to be the source of problems in the world, and this includes not just sexual lust but all kinds like our every feeling and impulse. If we want food it is a lust. 2 Peter establishes the spiritual guide. Think of it as a pyramid where you are building a base, but you are also building the other levels at the same time. So...you are adding at the bottom your faithfulness, then on that some virtue, and on that some knowledge and so on. At the top level of your pyramid you being to build a tiny bit of pure agape. As your pyramid grows, so grows its top. That is 2 Peter's pyramid plan of spiritual health, which he says cannot fail. This is, however, something for all people to do not only homosexuals. All have lust, and all must build.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Have you ever heard of a group called the Flagellants ? These people I think lost their way, stopped seeking the perfect law. Its hard to say precisely where they went wrong, however they excused their behavior and teachings. They whipped themselves and hit themselves, and they thought that this was mortifying the flesh and its lusts.

Can you imagine it being good for everyone in the world to hit ourselves? I cannot. That isn't the way to peace on earth, goodwill towards all. That is madness.

What is the way forward? What accomplishes the prayers of Jesus? That is the thing to pursue. It is God's will most likely.

 

[Estro Felino]

Lust is a sin.
Love is never a sin.
So love is universal regardless of the sex.

 

[Sheldon]

Is being gay a sin? A protestant Christian will tell you "yes". I was raised in a protestant family so this post will focus on their specific beliefs.
Gotquestions is great site ... to get a good idea of what general protestant views are on topics.
Is being gay a sin? Is it a sin to be gay? | GotQuestions.org
To someone in the LGBTQ community, being told that your sexual orientation is akin to the sin of theft and r*pe is offensive. It certainly is. stupid site
If a Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should question what about being gay is a sin.
Let's say, hypothetically of course, the Christian God is real and He has declared that gay is sin. So what is the sin? Is it the love that a man feels for another man? Is that the sin, then? Certainly not. How can love be a sin, when love is God Himself? But yet being gay is a sin. But not the love part. Ah! So it must be intimate activities between two same gendered people that is a sin. But wait! Suppose two men are not intimate in that way. There was a time when it was commonplace for people to wait until marriage. So two boyfriends, how can they be in sin if they simply love one another? I think the answer is lack of submission to God.
Is eating fruit a sin? If you ask Adam or Eve, they might say "yes". But its not a sin. In fact, eating fruit is healthy. Adam and Eve sinned by eating fruit, though. It was sin because lack of submission to God. In this way, being gay is a sin, if it is a sin.
The Christian God says we do not have the right to choose who we love. We must follow His parameters. They must be a child of God, just as you are. And of course, they must be opposite gender. There doesn't have to be anything inherently wrong with being gay. Could God had made it a sin because He demands our submission?
I recently discovered that I am a gay man. For me it is a dilemma. I know that I cannot be in a straight relationship, I have tried. I am gay. So I left my partner.
The dilemma for me is this. I intend to be a Nazirite.(an Israelite consecrated to the service of God, under vows to abstain from alcohol, let the hair grow, and avoid defilement by contact with corpses (Num. 6).)
My name is Samuel. My mother died when I was a babe but she left behind the testimony of an angel. She was a literal angel on earth, this I'm sure. My grandmother told me that my mother named me Samuel because of the Bible. So I read the Bible and found that Samuel and Samson were the only two Nazirites of the Bible (excluding Paul). Samson and Samuel's nazirite vows were unique from Paul's, however. Both of them were put under the nazirite vow before they were born. With Samuel specifically, it was the mother's idea to make him a nazirite.
So, due to the testimony that my mother left behind and the name she gave me, I understood her intentions for me in this life. I was to be a nazirite.
I have tried taking the vow several times. Only two times amounted to any serious amount of time, most recently i went without drinking, visiting my mothers grave, or cutting my hair for years. However, even if I do those things while under oath, I must be a ardent servant of God. So what if I don't cut my hair, if I am religiously apathetic. To be a nazirite means to be an active servant of God, it is part of the vow. I slipped into religious apathy, so I started drinking and shaved recently. The point is that I'm serious about being a nazirite, it is one of the main driving motivations in my life.
The question I suppose this whole post is leading up to is this: can I be a gay Nazirite? I have the option in my life to stay single. I am not my emotions. If my emotions dictate to me that I am gay, then must I abandon any romantic pursuits, if I am to be a nazirite? Is being gay a sin? I don't know, it's something I'm struggling with deeply. I grew up around homophobia and was extremely homophobic myself. I still am a bit. If it is a sin, it is a sin simply because God says so, not because love is wrong.
I can live a gay lifestyle and be more of a casual Christian. I wouldn't have qualms with that. I smoke cigarettes and drink the occasional beer, yet I still have a relationship with God. Those are sins. So I'd be fine with myself if I had a boyfriend, I don't think God would cast me away. But if I am to be a Nazirite, I have to hold myself to the highest standards. For example, I can't smoke cigarettes or drink as a Nazirite. I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

Well people are born gay, but they choose to believe in religions. You can dump one of those, the other is a part of who you are. Anyway I wish you well, whatever you choose.

I am of course, as you may have guessed an atheist, and though I happen to have been born straight, if a deity existed and considered who I was to be bad or wrong, then I'd want nothing to do with such a deity. Luckily there is no objective evidence that any deity exists, so you needn't stress about what others believe.

 

[stvdv]

Is "being" gay a sin?

Of course "being" Gay is not a "sin" according to "God"... which can be easily "proven" by certain Bible verses

Identifying (using the word "being") with gay as your "True Self" might be considered by others as "lack of wisdom". I don't identify with being gay or straight, but I identify with "Atma". The word "sin" is a negative feelings-inducing word created by humans, hence I feel no need to use it

Adam and Eve sinned by eating fruit, though. It was sin because lack of submission to God

I read in the Bible that they ate a specific fruit which God told them "don't eat fruit from that tree", so God did not tell them "don't eat fruits" in general. Was just an advice given to them by God

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Is being gay a sin? A protestant Christian will tell you "yes". I was raised in a protestant family so this post will focus on their specific beliefs.

"Protestant" covers a wide range of diverse beliefs. Most of the LGBTQ-affirming denominations are Protestant.

 

[pearl]

I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

If you and the one you choose to love are strong enough there is the possibility of a platonic relationship.

 

[ChristineM]

Is being gay a sin? A protestant Christian will tell you "yes". I was raised in a protestant family so this post will focus on their specific beliefs.
Gotquestions is great site ... to get a good idea of what general protestant views are on topics.
Is being gay a sin? Is it a sin to be gay? | GotQuestions.org
To someone in the LGBTQ community, being told that your sexual orientation is akin to the sin of theft and r*pe is offensive. It certainly is. stupid site
If a Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should question what about being gay is a sin.
Let's say, hypothetically of course, the Christian God is real and He has declared that gay is sin. So what is the sin? Is it the love that a man feels for another man? Is that the sin, then? Certainly not. How can love be a sin, when love is God Himself? But yet being gay is a sin. But not the love part. Ah! So it must be intimate activities between two same gendered people that is a sin. But wait! Suppose two men are not intimate in that way. There was a time when it was commonplace for people to wait until marriage. So two boyfriends, how can they be in sin if they simply love one another? I think the answer is lack of submission to God.
Is eating fruit a sin? If you ask Adam or Eve, they might say "yes". But its not a sin. In fact, eating fruit is healthy. Adam and Eve sinned by eating fruit, though. It was sin because lack of submission to God. In this way, being gay is a sin, if it is a sin.
The Christian God says we do not have the right to choose who we love. We must follow His parameters. They must be a child of God, just as you are. And of course, they must be opposite gender. There doesn't have to be anything inherently wrong with being gay. Could God had made it a sin because He demands our submission?
I recently discovered that I am a gay man. For me it is a dilemma. I know that I cannot be in a straight relationship, I have tried. I am gay. So I left my partner.
The dilemma for me is this. I intend to be a Nazirite.(an Israelite consecrated to the service of God, under vows to abstain from alcohol, let the hair grow, and avoid defilement by contact with corpses (Num. 6).)
My name is Samuel. My mother died when I was a babe but she left behind the testimony of an angel. She was a literal angel on earth, this I'm sure. My grandmother told me that my mother named me Samuel because of the Bible. So I read the Bible and found that Samuel and Samson were the only two Nazirites of the Bible (excluding Paul). Samson and Samuel's nazirite vows were unique from Paul's, however. Both of them were put under the nazirite vow before they were born. With Samuel specifically, it was the mother's idea to make him a nazirite.
So, due to the testimony that my mother left behind and the name she gave me, I understood her intentions for me in this life. I was to be a nazirite.
I have tried taking the vow several times. Only two times amounted to any serious amount of time, most recently i went without drinking, visiting my mothers grave, or cutting my hair for years. However, even if I do those things while under oath, I must be a ardent servant of God. So what if I don't cut my hair, if I am religiously apathetic. To be a nazirite means to be an active servant of God, it is part of the vow. I slipped into religious apathy, so I started drinking and shaved recently. The point is that I'm serious about being a nazirite, it is one of the main driving motivations in my life.
The question I suppose this whole post is leading up to is this: can I be a gay Nazirite? I have the option in my life to stay single. I am not my emotions. If my emotions dictate to me that I am gay, then must I abandon any romantic pursuits, if I am to be a nazirite? Is being gay a sin? I don't know, it's something I'm struggling with deeply. I grew up around homophobia and was extremely homophobic myself. I still am a bit. If it is a sin, it is a sin simply because God says so, not because love is wrong.
I can live a gay lifestyle and be more of a casual Christian. I wouldn't have qualms with that. I smoke cigarettes and drink the occasional beer, yet I still have a relationship with God. Those are sins. So I'd be fine with myself if I had a boyfriend, I don't think God would cast me away. But if I am to be a Nazirite, I have to hold myself to the highest standards. For example, I can't smoke cigarettes or drink as a Nazirite. I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

You are who you are, if that means you need to modify your faith a bit (and from what i can discern it will only be a bit) then i see no reason why not so long as your core values are mot hurt.


I am not religious but i could never see love as wrong. Rather i think those who condemn same sex love to be bigoted.

You are you. So be you

 

[metis]

Is being gay a sin?

IMO, no.

If God made one to be gay because of their hormones, how can being gay be a sin against God?

 

[Wildswanderer]

Is being gay a sin? A protestant Christian will tell you "yes". I was raised in a protestant family so this post will focus on their specific beliefs.
Gotquestions is great site ... to get a good idea of what general protestant views are on topics.
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To someone in the LGBTQ community, being told that your sexual orientation is akin to the sin of theft and r*pe is offensive. It certainly is. stupid site
If a Christian believes that homosexuality is a sin, they should question what about being gay is a sin.
Let's say, hypothetically of course, the Christian God is real and He has declared that gay is sin. So what is the sin? Is it the love that a man feels for another man? Is that the sin, then? Certainly not. How can love be a sin, when love is God Himself? But yet being gay is a sin. But not the love part. Ah! So it must be intimate activities between two same gendered people that is a sin. But wait! Suppose two men are not intimate in that way. There was a time when it was commonplace for people to wait until marriage. So two boyfriends, how can they be in sin if they simply love one another? I think the answer is lack of submission to God.
Is eating fruit a sin? If you ask Adam or Eve, they might say "yes". But its not a sin. In fact, eating fruit is healthy. Adam and Eve sinned by eating fruit, though. It was sin because lack of submission to God. In this way, being gay is a sin, if it is a sin.
The Christian God says we do not have the right to choose who we love. We must follow His parameters. They must be a child of God, just as you are. And of course, they must be opposite gender. There doesn't have to be anything inherently wrong with being gay. Could God had made it a sin because He demands our submission?
I recently discovered that I am a gay man. For me it is a dilemma. I know that I cannot be in a straight relationship, I have tried. I am gay. So I left my partner.
The dilemma for me is this. I intend to be a Nazirite.(an Israelite consecrated to the service of God, under vows to abstain from alcohol, let the hair grow, and avoid defilement by contact with corpses (Num. 6).)
My name is Samuel. My mother died when I was a babe but she left behind the testimony of an angel. She was a literal angel on earth, this I'm sure. My grandmother told me that my mother named me Samuel because of the Bible. So I read the Bible and found that Samuel and Samson were the only two Nazirites of the Bible (excluding Paul). Samson and Samuel's nazirite vows were unique from Paul's, however. Both of them were put under the nazirite vow before they were born. With Samuel specifically, it was the mother's idea to make him a nazirite.
So, due to the testimony that my mother left behind and the name she gave me, I understood her intentions for me in this life. I was to be a nazirite.
I have tried taking the vow several times. Only two times amounted to any serious amount of time, most recently i went without drinking, visiting my mothers grave, or cutting my hair for years. However, even if I do those things while under oath, I must be a ardent servant of God. So what if I don't cut my hair, if I am religiously apathetic. To be a nazirite means to be an active servant of God, it is part of the vow. I slipped into religious apathy, so I started drinking and shaved recently. The point is that I'm serious about being a nazirite, it is one of the main driving motivations in my life.
The question I suppose this whole post is leading up to is this: can I be a gay Nazirite? I have the option in my life to stay single. I am not my emotions. If my emotions dictate to me that I am gay, then must I abandon any romantic pursuits, if I am to be a nazirite? Is being gay a sin? I don't know, it's something I'm struggling with deeply. I grew up around homophobia and was extremely homophobic myself. I still am a bit. If it is a sin, it is a sin simply because God says so, not because love is wrong.
I can live a gay lifestyle and be more of a casual Christian. I wouldn't have qualms with that. I smoke cigarettes and drink the occasional beer, yet I still have a relationship with God. Those are sins. So I'd be fine with myself if I had a boyfriend, I don't think God would cast me away. But if I am to be a Nazirite, I have to hold myself to the highest standards. For example, I can't smoke cigarettes or drink as a Nazirite. I must be in prayer and meditation constantly, I must read the Bible constantly. I must be fully committed to God's instructions and rules. If God has said I do not have the right to choose who I love, then I must accept it. If God requires me to be single as His servant, I must accept it as a Nazirite.

If God has called you to live celibate then anything else will be less than your best life. I'm not saying God will cast you out if you sin, but I have had my struggles in life too and it always boils down to doing it God's way brings peace. Do you want peace or do you want to live in turmoil? That's my two cents.

 

[pearl]

I'm not saying God will cast you out if you sin, but I have had my struggles in life too and it always boils down to doing it God's way brings peace.

That's fine, problem is with man determining God's way.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Any person who sees fit to judge the sex life of another, should perhaps be directed to Matthew 7:1-5