Cool, can you explain more details?I do personally, all the time. Can't speak for others.
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Cool, can you explain more details?I do personally, all the time. Can't speak for others.
Nope. It's personal. I've been taught not to share, but for mystical Hindus there are lots of signs.Cool, can you explain more details?
Nope. It's personal. I've been taught not to share, but for mystical Hindus there are lots of signs.
I'll give a few examples of stuff that happens that indicates God's presence.
- murthies winking
- flowers falling at the same time as a particular thought
- gentle gusts of wind, either warmer or colder, than the existing windless place, like a shrine room
- odors wafting by, like the smell of a familiar incense outside
- seeing the deity with tears
- stone feeling warm to the touch, as if it were human
- sounds from 'nowhere'
- clairaudience
- bad vibes, good vibes
Quite often these things are shared experiences, in that two or more people experience them simultaneously.
Thanks. One of the minor reasons we don't share is it opens up to criticism and mocking from disbelief. The major reason though, is that it's seen as confidential, between you and God. Your and His secret, and just as if a person shared something with you, in confidence, you don't blab about it.Okay thanks. I believe you.
Thanks. One of the minor reasons we don't share is it opens up to criticism and mocking from disbelief. The major reason though, is that it's seen as confidential, between you and God. Your and His secret, and just as if a person shared something with you, in confidence, you don't blab about it.
Thanks. One of the minor reasons we don't share is it opens up to criticism and mocking from disbelief. The major reason though, is that it's seen as confidential, between you and God. Your and His secret, and just as if a person shared something with you, in confidence, you don't blab about it.
Another reason could be not to give people false expectations, i.e. to let them have their own experiences.
- murthies winking
Constellations teach time and direction. Indo-Iranians were herders in the vast Kazakh, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan steppes. This is not philosophy but the lore of the Indo-Iranian Aryans. The emphasis is seven, that is the full day light months when they were within the Arctic Circle. The rest is poetic exaggeration. Another example:"3 The seven who on the seven-wheeled car are mounted have horses, seven in tale, who draw them onward.
Seven Sisters utter songs of praise together, in whom the names of the seven Cows are treasured."
Regardless of whether they are constellations or not, what lessons about life are packed into this hymn, or what should it make me think of?
Time and direction? That makes sense to me. Herders it makes sense.Constellations teach time and direction. Indo-Iranians were herders in the vast Kazakh, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan steppes. This is not philosophy but the lore of the Indo-Iranian Aryans. The emphasis is seven, that is the full day light months when they were within the Arctic Circle. The rest is poetic exaggeration. Another example:
"8 Eight are the Sons of Aditi who from her body sprang to life.
With seven she went to meet the Gods she cast Martanda far away.
9 So with her Seven Sons Aditi went forth to meet the earlier age.
She brought Martanda thitherward to spring to life and die again."
Rig Veda: Rig-Veda, Book 10: HYMN LXXII. The Gods.
This is about how many suns the Indo-Iranians believed in? Seven fully formed and the eighth not fully formed. Aditi is considered to be the mother of these suns. So, the day-light months were seven and a half. The half was Martand (Dead Egg) when the sun failed (October). It is said that humans were created from Martand (the dead egg) to live and die in the world. The story could be as old as 15,000 years.
I remember the second time I went to the temple, we brought some interested friends. We were sitting in a group on the floor, and I looked across the room at Ram's shrine...and Sita(who I've always had a special spot in my heart for) waved at me. I left the group and had to get closer... I didn't mention it until later. But I'm still certain she did.
I will sometimes share experiences, if I think the person is trustworthy and openminded.
6,000 years ago, the sun rose on the day of vernal equinox in the constellation of Orion. The Aryans took Orion as 'Prajapati', Lord of the people, and wore a sacred thread (Hindus and Zoroastrians) in its imitation (Orion is surrounded by a circle which we know as Orion's belt or Bernard's loop).Time and direction? Herders it makes sense.
Its very nice to have access to such old writings. Too bad I don't know the language. There can be a deposit of philosophy with what seems like mere decoration.
That first hymn (164 I think) interests me more than this shorter one. It keeps talking about 'Speech' and associates speech with heaven and with law, and it says there are 4 divisions of speech, law being the first and the common one and the other three hidden (maybe secrets!). This piece about four divisions of speech is a hook. I wonder what they mean. I may be overthinking it.
Ashoka, I was wondering last night about your statement that you were born in Christianity and read the Bible.I was born into Christianity. I've read the Bible
I always sense the presence of Brahman, a bit like the presence of the sun on a cloudy day. Sometime the awareness of THAT grows stronger and overwhelms everything else. Then I see the world through THAT as it were.Do you experience anything with your deities? See them/sense them? Or receive some sort of indication from them?
Ashoka, I was wondering last night about your statement that you were born in Christianity and read the Bible.
And if you dont mind, to what extend did you read the Bible.
- May I know which denomination?
You dont have to answer if you feel it is personal. I will understand.
- hearing from Church what it says?
- Reading with sermons?
- reading it as a study with superficial detail?
- Reading it with intence once in tour life, like reading a best selling novel?
- Taking time to study the Bible, and investigating certain topics of interest?
The proof is in Bhagavad GeetA -- that is "proof" for me. Just like Quran is "proof" for you.Do you believe your religion has proof(s) outside of the good old "the proof is in the pudding" approach?
Now I feel like an idiot. I got you mixed up with mangalavara. She's going to Korea. I'm such a fool. I'm so incredible lucky to have the temple I prefer at 12 minutes away. and another 5 even closer.
It's a nice avatar tho man. I like it.I just saw your replies to @Ashoka. I'm sure that I will be fine without a temple in Korea. I know that there are at least two temples there, but none of them are in the city where I will work. Hopefully, I will meet an expat who is Hindu.
I think I should mention that I am a man. You're neither a fool nor an idiot, by the way. It's my avatar. Lol.