Why did God create homosexuality?

[DNB]

I agree, wishing harm on other people simply because of whom they are attracted to is definitely perverse.

I'm sorry Kooky, have you been responding to several different threads, by several different people, all at once?
Where in the world did you get 'finally being honest' and 'wishing harm on others' from???

 

[The Hammer]

Predominantly so, yes.

Your lack of morality is showing. At least your willing to admit it.

 

[DNB]

We all do correct, that's part of being human.

But some things are wrong, others are not. Sexual desires with consenting adults have no inherent moral value.

If you've never actually loved someone of the same gender (intimately), your opinion on it's morality, is flawed at worst, biased at best.

Sorry The Hammer, I'm not aware of your gender but whatever the case may be, you will build much stronger character and soundness of mind if you abide by the rules of biological nature, and those of relationships.
Just the fact that you consider mutual consent to be the guideline for moral integrity, reveals an oblivion to the harmful nature of certain acts, desires and intents.
Two people who agree to beat each other up, which I've seen more than once, does not constitute sound or practical behaviour. People who are in accord to have open relationships, or who are swingers, porn stars, and so on, is not the parameter that determines inconsequential behaviour.

 

[The Hammer]

Sorry The Hammer, I'm not aware of your gender but whatever the case may be, you will build much stronger character and soundness of mind if you abide by the rules of biological nature, and those of relationships.
Just the fact that you consider mutual consent to be the guideline for moral integrity, reveals an oblivion to the harmful nature of certain acts, desires and intents.
Two people who agree to beat each other up, which I've seen more than once, does not constitute sound or practical behaviour. People who are in accord to have open relationships, or who are swingers, porn stars, and so on, is not the parameter that determines inconsequential behaviour.

See post #68.

Good informative articles. Maybe learn something today

 

[DNB]

See post #68.

Good informative articles. Maybe learn something today

Not interested, ...i am aware of the diversity of opinion on the matter, and I have formulated mine through both empirical evidence and fundamental reasons..

 

[The Hammer]

formulated mine through both empirical and fundamental evidence..

What do you consider empirical evidence?

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Ok then, why would God create a sexual feeling in someone when it's forbidden to act on that impulse? I believe that men who are attracted to other men were born with those impulses inherent in them.

You are missing the point that men wrote those rules. We have no evidence God ever said such a thing. God told me that anything He willed would be evident in reality.Homophobia doesn’t seem congruent with reality.

 

[PureX]

see timestamp 5:20

"God created the man and the woman, the Devil came out and created both of us, together ... more fabulosity!"

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

I don't know.

But it's possible the answer will cast some light on [his] divorce from Asherah.

Yeah, the endless misogyny definitely reeks of “My Wife left Me and everyone else is going to pay for My humiliation “.

 

[Brickjectivity]

New The Bible states that if a man lies with another man they should both be stoned to death.

That is incorrect. The bible is a library and does not say things. Now if the bible were placed inside another library such as the library of congress would you then claim the library of congress said to stone people? This is the same whether you claim it about the bible or any library, because libraries and canons are repositories of all kinds of works and genres.. They don't say anything. You go into the library and find one item, and that item says something, not the library.

There is only one book which says anything about stoning for anal sex between males, and it is only addressed to Jews. Lots of books in the bible say things addressed only to Jews. The bible doesn't say anything except "I am a library." It says nothing about stoning or about anything. Each book must be considered in context.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I don’t believe homosexuals are born that way or that God creates them to be that way. I believe that through the process of human development and life experiences, same sex attraction/homosexuality can develop in a person.

From the moment we are born, we begin bonding with the people around us. We build relationships and learn who to trust. Our thoughts, feelings, likes and dislikes develop. We have a variety of experiences from the time we are born and throughout childhood that have influenced and shaped our thoughts, feelings, and actions. It’s definitely possible that some people could develop same sex attraction at some point during their younger developing lives, or later.

God commands everyone, including homosexuals, to control their sexual impulses and live moral lives. Yes, a homosexual would need to live a celibate life or choose to marry the opposite sex. You would need to work that out with him as to which one you choose. Yes, God expects us to sacrifice, overcome, and give up whatever is in our physical natures that is keeping us from following his teachings.

Because after all, life isn't meant to be enjoyed, is it -- at least not if you just happen to be gay. It'w meant to be endured so that maybe, just maybe, if you endured it well enough, and didn't make any mistakes, and weren't born into a family of the wrong religion, you might get a reward.

It's too horrible to think about, sometimes.

 

[firedragon]

The Bible states that if a man lies with another man they should both be stoned to death. It's my belief that homosexuals are born that way and have no choice over who they're attracted to just like a heterosexual. If this is true why would God create homosexuals when he seems so opposed to their nature? I believe in the God of the Old Testament and believe that he is righteous but I'm confused by this. Did God create homosexuals purely to destroy them or is there something else going on? Does he want a homosexual man to be celibate or to go against his nature and procreate with a woman? Is God offering him the chance to make a huge sacrifice to the highest by denying himself? What are your thoughts?

Not only man, women with women, and animal with human is also forbidden in the Bible. But curiously the NT or rather Saul does not specify lesbianism but only homosexual men.

Nevertheless your question is an age old question that a lot of people had, and they still do. What you should know is that your question is not really a theological question, its a philosophical question. Thus, you will never be able to reconcile it theologically. But philosophically you should consider that you are asking a question about God which is not the same as any of Gods creations. Not humans, earth, animals, wind, space, time or distance. By "definition" God is transcended so if you try to apply the same qualities of human dilemma on God it is not a valid application.

For example, lets say you are questioning Gods choices. Read up on choice theory. This is simple human psychology and was extensively thought of by the likes of William Glasser. If you read up you would see that choices are thought of by humans based on needs and feelings. These are human qualities and cannot be applied to God. Glasser says that all creatures are genetically programmed to struggle to survive. That does not apply to God. Thus logically only an internal critique can be done. Something like P1 not P2.

Peace.

 

[Koldo]

That's true, but, firstly, within heterosexuality comes many vices also - one must control their heterosexual desires as much as any other misguided or injudicious behaviour.. Secondly, some people are born with intrinsic deformities or aberrations, we don't consider these to be normal and healthy, we try to rehabilitate either entirely or to some degree, where applicable.
The desire for relationships may be intrinsic, but many have acquired an inordinate affection towards their partners, or even their pets, displaying the fact that there is an extremely fine line as to what is normal and healthy, and as to what is abnormal.

But where is the vice in having an homosexual relationship per se?

Whenever I think of any given vice I can pinpoint at least one major harm it causes. I can't think of any when it comes down to homosexuality, so what is it?

 

[Koldo]

Not only man, women with women, and animal with human is also forbidden in the Bible. But curiously the NT or rather Saul does not specify lesbianism but only homosexual men.

Nevertheless your question is an age old question that a lot of people had, and they still do. What you should know is that your question is not really a theological question, its a philosophical question. Thus, you will never be able to reconcile it theologically. But philosophically you should consider that you are asking a question about God which is not the same as any of Gods creations. Not humans, earth, animals, wind, space, time or distance. By "definition" God is transcended so if you try to apply the same qualities of human dilemma on God it is not a valid application.

For example, lets say you are questioning Gods choices. Read up on choice theory. This is simple human psychology and was extensively thought of by the likes of William Glasser. If you read up you would see that choices are thought of by humans based on needs and feelings. These are human qualities and cannot be applied to God. Glasser says that all creatures are genetically programmed to struggle to survive. That does not apply to God. Thus logically only an internal critique can be done. Something like P1 not P2.

Peace.

If you realllly want to go down that hole, there are simply way more holes to dive oneself into. Such as the frail evidence to substantiate the existence of the Abrahamic God, the distinct conceptions of God through different times and cultures, what counts as divine scripture, who holds the authority to interpret it properly, how to interpret it correct...

This is why I find it more proper to go with whatever the OP presents as its' premises.

 

[firedragon]

If you realllly want to go down that hole, there are simply way more holes to dive oneself into. Such as the frail evidence to substantiate the existence of the Abrahamic God, the distinct conceptions of God through different times and cultures, what counts as divine scripture, who holds the authority to interpret it properly, how to interpret it correct...

This is why I find it more proper to go with whatever the OP presents as its' premises.

The topic is in the OP itself, so I think what you are trying to do is not relevant.

 

[Kooky]

I'm sorry Kooky, have you been responding to several different threads, by several different people, all at once?
Where in the world did you get 'finally being honest' and 'wishing harm on others' from???

So your public expression of disgust over, and endorsement of the persecution of LGBTQ people wasn't meant to be serious after all?

 

[QuestioningMind]

The Bible states that if a man lies with another man they should both be stoned to death. It's my belief that homosexuals are born that way and have no choice over who they're attracted to just like a heterosexual. If this is true why would God create homosexuals when he seems so opposed to their nature? I believe in the God of the Old Testament and believe that he is righteous but I'm confused by this. Did God create homosexuals purely to destroy them or is there something else going on? Does he want a homosexual man to be celibate or to go against his nature and procreate with a woman? Is God offering him the chance to make a huge sacrifice to the highest by denying himself? What are your thoughts?

It suggests to me that the bible was written by fallible human beings who inserted their own biases and prejudices into the writings. Any god being that would create a person just so he could destroy them is a vile and contestable being that isn't worthy of worship.

 

[sun rise]

If the number of living beings in our universe are growing, how does the notion of reincarnation reconcile the greater amount of current living beings with the lesser amount of past lives from whom reincarnated beings now could have existed from before when there were fewer beings who lived previously than the number of currently living beings?

Add the number living on other planets who can migrate here. Also, add the number of new human-conscious souls being formed by evolution of the soul.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

The Bible states that if a man lies with another man they should both be stoned to death. It's my belief that homosexuals are born that way and have no choice over who they're attracted to just like a heterosexual. If this is true why would God create homosexuals when he seems so opposed to their nature? I believe in the God of the Old Testament and believe that he is righteous but I'm confused by this. Did God create homosexuals purely to destroy them or is there something else going on? Does he want a homosexual man to be celibate or to go against his nature and procreate with a woman? Is God offering him the chance to make a huge sacrifice to the highest by denying himself? What are your thoughts?

It's amazing just how quickly all such conundrums disappear the moment one accepts a natural, science-based understanding for the world and what's in it.

 

[firedragon]

It's amazing just how quickly all such conundrums disappear the moment one accepts a natural, science-based understanding for the world and what's in it.

Thats false. Stalin did that, and they had the anti theism movement, while persecuting homosexuals and putting them in jail for up to five years, while the Ottoman Empire being the so called islamic khalifate gave full gay rights way back in the 1850's.

What you say is a typical situation, but not necessary.

 

[Brickjectivity]

Not only man, women with women, and animal with human is also forbidden in the Bible. But curiously the NT or rather Saul does not specify lesbianism but only homosexual men.

Most likely it is thought that the more semen you make the worse the quality, though there is no scripture about this that I have heard of. The command to reproduce is urgent, and it implies maximizing reproducing and reproducing as well as possible. It merely seems like that is the reasoning for why males are forbidden both to masturbate and to have anal sex. The reasoning is not given, however. I'm interpolating the reason.