Is there a resource of Athe(ism)?

[ChristineM]

The best resource for atheism is “this is my god”,atheist “ok where is it”,believer “oh you can’t see my god but here’s a book authored by him,you just have to have faith”,athiest,”so no proof then?”,believer “but I have a book”,don’t want to be cruel but really I think you misunderstand what atheism is.

 

[Spirit of Light]

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I had to smile when i read this one

 

[John53]

The guy doesn't like or understand atheiem so he needs to mess about with it to insult atheists.

What he doesn't know is that atheist don't care.

Sure he can read this but it won't make any difference

I don't feel insulted, only confused. But it's not even 6am, it doesn't take much to confuse me.

 

[ChristineM]

I don't feel insulted, only confused. But it's not even 6am, it doesn't take much to confuse me.

Here ya go

 

[Polymath257]

In other words, one mean there is no resource of Atheists' ism, please. Right?
Isn't it an acknowledgement, please?
Right?

Regards

There is no single source that all atheists go to that is authoritative. it is NOT like religious beliefs in that regard.

BUT, there are other atheists that have written about their ideas, and atheists often read such sources to evaluate their own beliefs.

Are you wanting to do some reading to learn what *some* atheists think? There are many books along that line.

Do you want some book that says what *all* atheists think? There is no such thing.

" Atheism is "

That must be in the resource of Atheists' ism, I understand. Right?
Kindly name the resource, please. Right?

No, you are wrong. That is merely the *definition* of atheism. Atheists can read the definition and realize it applies to them.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Thanks for an open testimony, please.
What denomination was one in prior to embarking on this adventure, please?
Kindly don't disclose it if it is personal and private, please.
right?

Regards

I was a Christian. You seem to totally lack an understanding of what atheism is. Why one Earth do you think that sources are necessary to tell an atheist what to believe or not to believe?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

I don't think so, please. Right?

Regard

This world, as it exists and as it can be studied, is a most compelling argument against the notion of any "god" so far described by any of humanity's religions. Therefore, the entire world -- as it exists -- is a most eloquent resource for atheism.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

What Method did one use to get to Athei(ism), please? Right?
Did one try the famous Scientific Method to find the truth in it, please? Right?

Regards

There is only one "method" to get to atheism -- examine what you are told by theists, and see if the world around you supports what they say. It doesn't, and therefore you dismiss their claims.

 

[paarsurrey]

What research? Your God, like any other God, has the same evidence to exist as Pinocchio, or Superman; you do not need much research to realize something so obvious. Please. Right?
ciao
- viole

" What research? "

research (n.)
1570s, "act of searching closely" for a specific person or thing, from French recerche (1530s, Modern French recherche), back-formation from Old French recercher "seek out, search closely" (see research (v.)).

The meaning "diligent scientific inquiry and investigation directed to the discovery of some fact" is attested by 1630s. The general sense of "investigations into things, the habit of making close investigations" is by 1690s. The phrase research and development for "work on a large scale toward innovation" is recorded from 1923.
research (v.)
1590s, "investigate or study (a matter) closely, search or examine with continued care," from French recercher, from Old French recercher "seek out, search closely," from re-, here perhaps an intensive prefix (see re-), + cercher "to seek for," from Latin circare "go about, wander, traverse," in Late Latin "to wander hither and thither," from circus "circle" (see circus).
The intransitive meaning "make researches" is by 1781. Sometimes 17c. also "to seek (a woman) in love or marriage." Related: Researched; researching.
research | Origin and meaning of research by Online Etymology Dictionary

It is good to research for a relative new philosophical ism as Atheists' ism happens to be, since Religion already existed from centuries before, please. Right?
Kindly get started to research for the "ism", if one couldn't do it earlier, please. Right?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

There is only one "method" to get to atheism -- examine what you are told by theists, and see if the world around you supports what they say. It doesn't, and therefore you dismiss their claims.

As I said this "ism" is a term of Philosophy, the truthful Religions doesn't go by it, its basis is natural and direct Converse of Allah(G-d) He had with His truthful messenger/prophets, please. Right?

Regards

 

[Subduction Zone]

As I said this "ism" is a term of Philosophy, the truthful Religions doesn't go by it, its basis is natural and direct Converse of Allah(G-d) He had with His truthful messenger/prophets, please. Right?

Regards

You appear to be being overly literalistic in your approach to understanding terminology. It is usually an error to do so since the definitions of words can change over time. Etymology can help one to understand a term, but definitions are not written in stone so applying etymology may give one an incorrect understanding at times.

 

[paarsurrey]

This world, as it exists and as it can be studied, is a most compelling argument against the notion of any "god" so far described by any of humanity's religions. Therefore, the entire world -- as it exists -- is a most eloquent resource for atheism.

Did our friend reach to this conclusion by use of the famous Scientific Method, please?
If yes, then kindly name the discipline of Science who took it up, please. Right?
Also kindly quote from a text book of Science, please. Right?

Regards

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

As I said this "ism" is a term of Philosophy, the truthful Religions doesn't go by it, its basis is natural and direct Converse of Allah(G-d) He had with His truthful messenger/prophets, please. Right?

Regards

I only know people who CLAIMED to be "truthful messengers/prophets." I've never seen any credentials.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Did our friend reach to this conclusion by use of the famous Scientific Method, please?
If yes, then kindly name the discipline of Science who took it up, please. Right?
Also kindly quote from a text book of Science, please. Right?

Regards

Why would he apply the scientific method there? When one tries to apply the scientific method to the existence of God is when one cannot find any evidence for his existence. It is rather hard to apply the scientific method to the nonexistence of something.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

Did our friend reach to this conclusion by use of the famous Scientific Method, please?
If yes, then kindly name the discipline of Science who took it up, please. Right?
Also kindly quote from a text book of Science, please. Right?

Regards

Look -- please? right? The rock bottom basis of the Scientific method is OBSERVATION. I have never observed a deity. Have you?

 

[England my lionheart]

As I said this "ism" is a term of Philosophy, the truthful Religions doesn't go by it, its basis is natural and direct Converse of Allah(G-d) He had with His truthful messenger/prophets, please. Right?

Regards

A big bucket of popcorn is required here,please explain “truthful religions”.

 

[paarsurrey]

You appear to be being overly literalistic in your approach to understanding terminology. It is usually an error to do so since the definitions of words can change over time. Etymology can help one to understand a term, but definitions are not written in stone so applying etymology may give one an incorrect understanding at times.

I don't agree with one, please. Right?
Rather etymology helps us to understand the natural "Word" and its history though it also mentions, sometimes if not always, as to how it helped to form the terms as a tool to understand the natural "Work" to the science/s that otherwise was impossible to get going, please. Right?
etymology (n.)
late 14c., ethimolegia "facts of the origin and development of a word," from Old French etimologie, ethimologie (14c., Modern French étymologie), from Latin etymologia, from Greek etymologia "analysis of a word to find its true origin," properly "study of the true sense (of a word)," with -logia "study of, a speaking of" (see -logy) + etymon "true sense, original meaning," neuter of etymos "true, real, actual," related to eteos "true," which perhaps is cognate with Sanskrit satyah, Gothic sunjis, Old English soð "true," from a PIE *set- "be stable." Latinized by Cicero as veriloquium.
In classical times, with reference to meanings; later, to histories. Classical etymologists, Christian and pagan, based their explanations on allegory and guesswork, lacking historical records as well as the scientific method to analyze them, and the discipline fell into disrepute that lasted a millennium. Flaubert ["Dictionary of Received Ideas"] wrote that the general view was that etymology was "the easiest thing in the world with the help of Latin and a little ingenuity."
As a modern branch of linguistic science treating of the origin and evolution of words, from 1640s. As "an account of the particular history of a word" from mid-15c. Related: Etymological; etymologically.
As practised by Socrates in the Cratylus, etymology involves a claim about the underlying semantic content of the name, what it really means or indicates. This content is taken to have been put there by the ancient namegivers: giving an etymology is thus a matter of unwrapping or decoding a name to find the message the namegivers have placed inside. [Rachel Barney, "Socrates Agonistes: The Case of the Cratylus Etymologies," in "Oxford Studies in Ancient Philosophy," vol. xvi, 1998]
etymology | Origin and meaning of etymology by Online Etymology Dictionary
term (n.)
c. 1200, terme "limit in time, set or appointed period," from Old French terme "limit of time or place, date, appointed time, duration" (11c.), from Latin terminus "end, boundary line," in Medieval Latin "expression, definition," related to termen "boundary, end" (see terminus). Old English had termen "term, end," from Latin. Sense of "period of time during which something happens" first recorded c. 1300, especially of a school or law court session (mid-15c.).
The meaning "word or phrase used in a limited or precise sense" is first recorded late 14c., from Medieval Latin use of terminus to render Greek horos "boundary," employed in mathematics and logic. Hence in terms of "in the language or phraseology peculiar to." Meaning "completion of the period of pregnancy" is from 1844. Term-paper in U.S. educational sense is recorded from 1931.
term | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

So, our Atheists' ism people, I understand, neither know of the natural "Word" nor the natural " Work", please. Right?
Now coming to the " resource" of Athe(ism), why don't they start building the "resource", if they lacked to start with, please. Right?
Why hesitation, please?

Regards

 

[paarsurrey]

A big bucket of popcorn is required here,please explain “truthful religions”.

Well I am seeking to know the "resource" of Athe(ism), so don't get distracted, please.
I am a good listener, please.
The Second Coming/Imam Mahdi, I understand, did appreciate one aspect of this new born ism, please.
It is true, I understand, that Paul and Pauline-Christianity are Anti-Jesus, as it is mythical right from the start, now Richard Carrier has also written much about it. Right
Likewise Athe(ism) has exposed the Pauline-Christianity that Jesus-god is Anti-Jesus, my understanding, please. Right?
Athe(ism) is born in the West so it is good that they have refused to accept Jesus-god holy-spirit-god flesh-god father-god son-god. Right?
Athe(ism) is born in the West in counter-reaction to Pauline-Christianity, to me. Right?

Regards

 

[Subduction Zone]

I don't agree with one, please. Right?
Rather etymology helps us to understand the natural "Word" and its history though it also mentions, sometimes if not always, as to how it helped to form the terms as a tool to understand the natural "Work" to the science/s that otherwise was impossible to get going, please. Right?
etymology (n.)
late 14c., ethimolegia "facts of the origin and development of a word," from Old French etimologie, ethimologie (14c., Modern French étymologie), from Latin etymologia, from Greek etymologia "analysis of a word to find its true origin," properly "study of the true sense (of a word)," with -logia "study of, a speaking of" (see -logy) + etymon "true sense, original meaning," neuter of etymos "true, real, actual," related to eteos "true," which perhaps is cognate with Sanskrit satyah, Gothic sunjis, Old English soð "true," from a PIE *set- "be stable." Latinized by Cicero as veriloquium.
In classical times, with reference to meanings; later, to histories. Classical etymologists, Christian and pagan, based their explanations on allegory and guesswork, lacking historical records as well as the scientific method to analyze them, and the discipline fell into disrepute that lasted a millennium. Flaubert ["Dictionary of Received Ideas"] wrote that the general view was that etymology was "the easiest thing in the world with the help of Latin and a little ingenuity."
As a modern branch of linguistic science treating of the origin and evolution of words, from 1640s. As "an account of the particular history of a word" from mid-15c. Related: Etymological; etymologically.
As practised by Socrates in the Cratylus, etymology involves a claim about the underlying semantic content of the name, what it really means or indicates. This content is taken to have been put there by the ancient namegivers: giving an etymology is thus a matter of unwrapping or decoding a name to find the message the namegivers have placed inside. [Rachel Barney, "Socrates Agonistes: The Case of the Cratylus Etymologies," in "Oxford Studies in Ancient Philosophy," vol. xvi, 1998]
etymology | Origin and meaning of etymology by Online Etymology Dictionary
term (n.)
c. 1200, terme "limit in time, set or appointed period," from Old French terme "limit of time or place, date, appointed time, duration" (11c.), from Latin terminus "end, boundary line," in Medieval Latin "expression, definition," related to termen "boundary, end" (see terminus). Old English had termen "term, end," from Latin. Sense of "period of time during which something happens" first recorded c. 1300, especially of a school or law court session (mid-15c.).
The meaning "word or phrase used in a limited or precise sense" is first recorded late 14c., from Medieval Latin use of terminus to render Greek horos "boundary," employed in mathematics and logic. Hence in terms of "in the language or phraseology peculiar to." Meaning "completion of the period of pregnancy" is from 1844. Term-paper in U.S. educational sense is recorded from 1931.
term | Search Online Etymology Dictionary

So, our Atheists' ism people, I understand, neither know of the natural "Word" nor the natural " Work", please. Right?
Now coming to the " resource" of Athe(ism), why don't they start building the "resource", if they lacked to start with, please. Right?
Why hesitation, please?

Regards

Sorry, but you are wrong here. Etymology is a tool only. It is not an absolute. Do I go around you trying to correct you on the use of Arabic words? I am betting that one cannot be one hundred percent literal with the definitions of those either.

 

[Mock Turtle]

" What research? "

research (n.)
1570s, "act of searching closely" for a specific person or thing, from French recerche (1530s, Modern French recherche), back-formation from Old French recercher "seek out, search closely" (see research (v.)).

The meaning "diligent scientific inquiry and investigation directed to the discovery of some fact" is attested by 1630s. The general sense of "investigations into things, the habit of making close investigations" is by 1690s. The phrase research and development for "work on a large scale toward innovation" is recorded from 1923.
research (v.)
1590s, "investigate or study (a matter) closely, search or examine with continued care," from French recercher, from Old French recercher "seek out, search closely," from re-, here perhaps an intensive prefix (see re-), + cercher "to seek for," from Latin circare "go about, wander, traverse," in Late Latin "to wander hither and thither," from circus "circle" (see circus).
The intransitive meaning "make researches" is by 1781. Sometimes 17c. also "to seek (a woman) in love or marriage." Related: Researched; researching.
research | Origin and meaning of research by Online Etymology Dictionary

It is good to research for a relative new philosophical ism as Atheists' ism happens to be, since Religion already existed from centuries before, please. Right?
Kindly get started to research for the "ism", if one couldn't do it earlier, please. Right?

Regards

Is that what you did to gain your beliefs? That is, research all the various faiths so as to make sure you got the right one, or maybe opt out, as many of us have done - opting out, that is, rather than wasting time with the other.