Sex Work Is Legitimate, But Needs Regulation

[PureX]

Where do you live?
I know for a fact that it is not so in Germany and I think (but am not sure) it isn't so in the US. (Otherwise there wouldn't be disputes about splitting the wealth in divorces.)

The whole reason there are disputes during divorce is because property that was held in common is now being divided.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, unless they are married to someone else. Or have committed to someone else to be exclusive. Or unless they're deceiving one of the other, or someone else. The idea that whatever two people agree to do together has no effect on anyone else is simply untrue. And society has the right to protect itself from the damage that such actions can do to the other people effected by our decisions. I know the current "freedom = selfishness" dogma tries to ignore and deny this, but like it or not, it's still a fact of our reality.

So you'd regulate even non-commercial relationships,
eg, a prison sentence for infidelity? Yours would be
a highly regulated society.
I say that we have the right to behave in a manner that
causes only emotional damage. Otherwise, you'd be
promoting the criminalization of merely offending people.
In that case, you & I might share a prison cell.
You wouldn't want that, would you?

 

[Heyo]

The whole reason there are disputes during divorce is because property that was held in common is now being divided.

If it was evenly owned it should be possible to evenly split without argument.

And you have overlooked the act of marrying itself. If one of the pair is wealthier at the marriage s/he transfers half of the excess to the partner so that they now own everything equally. I.e. s/he is paying for future services (including sex).

 

[PureX]

So you'd regulate even non-commercial relationships,
eg, a prison sentence for infidelity?

We regulate all sorts of human interaction. We have to, to maintain a civil, functional society.

I say that we have the right to behave in a manner that causes only emotional damage.

Well, I guess child abuse is in, then. Slander. Verbal abuse. Internet bullying. Sounds like a Trumplandian Utopia.

 

[PureX]

If it was evenly owned it should be possible to evenly split without argument.

It was "evenly (jointly) owned". The argument is because they no longer want it to be "evenly owned", or evenly divided. The argument is because of the split, not because of the union.

But this is a foolish debate, anyway, so I'm done with it.

 

[Heyo]

It was "evenly (jointly) owned". The argument is because they no longer want it to be "evenly owned", or evenly divided. The argument is because of the split, not because of the union.

But this is a foolish debate, anyway, so I'm done with it.

OK, so we conclude sex for money is OK when it is stamped "legal", i.e. in marriage.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Except that's BS. What happens in Vegas effects all of us. And we don't all agree to it. Which is why we're having this debate.

No it dosent affect you.

With exception of course that it bothers you what other people happen to do with each other.

Oh it used to bother me until it dawned one day, when you get down to the nitty gritty, that its really not my business to dictate to others on the basis of my worldview and how it ought to be that forms in my mind.

I figure as long as people agree and can walk away whenever they want, its alright.

 

[Shakeel]

No it dosent affect you.

With exception of course that it bothers you what other people happen to do with each other.

Oh it used to bother me until it dawned one day, when you get down to the nitty gritty, that its really not my business to dictate to others on the basis of my worldview and how it ought to be that forms in my mind.

I figure as long as people agree and can walk away whenever they want, its alright.

Come back when your teenage daughter becomes a prostitute.

 

[infrabenji]

Come back when your teenage daughter becomes a prostitute.

What a terribly misguided thing to say. I mean there’s also only fans. What if his daughter decides to start an only fans? Parents should love their children and do their best to make sure they are healthy physically and mentally. It’s our job to prepare them for all the things we conceivably can in the world. If after having done that my daughter makes a conscious decision to be a stripper or start an only fans or be gay or trans or a popsicle. I would support her with the love and compassion she like all humans deserve.

 

[Brickjectivity]

In some countries, anti-pimping laws are used to make life difficult for companies and individuals who rent out spaces for sex workers, especially those who work 'from home' so to speak, including phone sex workers, camgirls/boys etc.

In other words, the patriarchial state will take even the most miniscule amount of leverage it can get to oppress sex workers and make their lives miserable.

There are publications about human trafficking, and any solution must also counter human trafficking. This should be the goal, not punishing sex. If any think punishment be needed sex is its own punishment what with STD's and all of the other problems and psychological risks which come with. The main thing is to stop human trafficking.

 

[Shakeel]

What a terribly misguided thing to say. I mean there’s also only fans. What if his daughter decides to start an only fans? Parents should love their children and do their best to make sure they are healthy physically and mentally. It’s our job to prepare them for all the things we conceivably can in the world. If after having done that my daughter makes a conscious decision to be a stripper or start an only fans or be gay or trans or a popsicle. I would support her with the love and compassion she like all humans deserve.

Sorry, I don't know all the terms related to women selling themselves, but for sure your idea of good parenting is one that might take you and your children to hell.

 

[infrabenji]

Sorry, I don't know all the terms related to women selling themselves, but for sure your idea of good parenting is one that might take you and your children to hell.

I love how preposterous this statement is. Which hell? Christian hell or maybe Muslim hell. Hell would have to be demonstrated to exist first. Till then, I'm not worried about any religions hell. How do you know you're not going to a different religions hell? Catholic purgatory or reincarnation. How do you know anything happens after you die? Let me guess your holy book tells you. Well that solves the problem of life after death. Let's pack it up guys. @Shakeel beliefs are the right ones. Problem solved.

 

[Revoltingest]

We regulate all sorts of human interaction. We have to, to maintain a civil, functional society.

Oh, boy...legislating traditional Christian morals.
Toss those homos & blasphemers in prison.
Prosecute married couples for miscegenation & sodomy.
Imprison & degrade prostitutes so they won't degrade
themselves with sex work...because that stops prostitution.

Let's not regulate all human interaction, & allow some
diversity of thought & consensual sexual relations.

Well, I guess child abuse is in, then. Slander. Verbal abuse. Internet bullying. Sounds like a Trumplandian Utopia.

Your post suggests much more in common with Trump,
espousing his pseudo-religious views & his lust to control us.
And once again, your post makes an absurd straw men.
Children do not...cannot...consent to abuse.

You're confusing consenting adults engaging in activities
that harm only sensibilities the sensibilities of prudes with
with physically assaulting children. These are very very
different things.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sorry, I don't know all the terms related to women selling themselves, but for sure your idea of good parenting is one that might take you and your children to hell.

I strongly suggest considering more civility in posts.
If you read the rules, you'll find that we should discuss
the issues, & not make negative personal comments.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

If after having done that my daughter makes a conscious decision to be a stripper or start an only fans or be gay or trans or a popsicle.

Being gay or trans is not equivalent to being a sex worker...or a popsicle. Kind of offensive to throw those in there.

 

[infrabenji]

Being gay or trans is not equivalent to being a sex worker...or a popsicle. Kind of offensive to throw those in there.

That was your takeaway, huh? You think I was equivocating sex work to being gay or trans or a popsicle? I was making the point that you should love your children unconditionally. Sorry if you thought I was saying being gay or trans or a popsicle is the same as sex work.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

That was your takeaway, huh? You think I was equivocating sex work to being gay or trans or a popsicle? I was making the point that you should love your children unconditionally. Sorry if you thought I was saying being gay or trans or a popsicle is the same as sex work.

Yeah, that's how it read to me.

 

[Revoltingest]

That was your takeaway, huh? You think I was equivocating sex work to being gay or trans or a popsicle? I was making the point that you should love your children unconditionally.

I inferred what you posted here.

 

[infrabenji]

Yeah, that's how it read to me.

How unfortunate.

 

[MonkeyFire]

Are you coming on to me? Lol