As with MGM, some FGM advocates also claim religion.If that's their culture, that's their culture. The issue here is religious mandate tho, which isn't the case with female variants.
Lawyers claim female genital mutilation is a religious right
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As with MGM, some FGM advocates also claim religion.If that's their culture, that's their culture. The issue here is religious mandate tho, which isn't the case with female variants.
Not all variants.Because female circumcision is worse.
What about female circumcision?
It can be done safely with modern medicine.
And the FGM-lite versions are comparable to make circumcision.
If boys can have genitalia cosmetically altered without consent, then why deny girls this benefit?
And surprisingly it worked:As with MGM, some FGM advocates also claim religion.
Lawyers claim female genital mutilation is a religious right
As I pointed out, some adherents of FGM do claim aI think as Rival already said, it is not relevant to her because her scripture does not mandate FGM.
Those who oppose FGM would do well to oppose MGM too,And surprisingly it worked:
Congress lost fight to save female genital mutilation law. Now what?
The last charge was dropped last year. But that is in another article.
And that may be why the law failed constitutional muster.Those who oppose FGM would do well to oppose MGM too,
lest the un-defendable gender disparity defeat their arguments.
They do, but it's not in texts, so to speak. It's just a cultural thing disguised as religion.As with MGM, some FGM advocates also claim religion.
Lawyers claim female genital mutilation is a religious right
I notice that many religious beliefs aren't specifically statedThey do, but it's not in texts, so to speak. It's just a cultural thing disguised as religion.
Mostly because once folks are educated on FGM they tend to stop doing it. If it were religiously mandated, i.e., to be part of the covenant, you can't just stop doing it. If it's a cultural practice you can have flexibility, but directly from scripture? No such flex.I notice that many religious beliefs aren't specifically stated
in scripture. They're inferences. Who are we to say that
people's religious beliefs are illegitimate just because we
don't see the source?
Surprised at your use of the term "benefit," I am.What about female circumcision?
It can be done safely with modern medicine.
And the FGM-lite versions are comparable to make circumcision.
If boys can have genitalia cosmetically altered without consent, then why deny girls this benefit?
Religious mandates are subject to culture & laws.Mostly because once folks are educated on FGM they tend to stop doing it. If it were religiously mandated, i.e., to be part of the covenant, you can't just stop doing it. If it's a cultural practice you can have flexibility, but directly from scripture? No such flex.
Sarchasm.Surprised at your use of the term "benefit," I am.
Let's compare comparable levels of surgicalFirst, an admission: as a gay male, I frankly greatly prefer my partner to be circumcised, and have all of my life.
However, as an adult who has thought about the issue, and has discovered a few (there aren't many, a bit less than 1%) references to botched circumcisions, including one statistic that says there are about 100 neonatal circumcision-ralted deaths (9.01/100,000) annually in the United States, and a few where the penis has been lost altogether resulting in boys being surgicaly altered and raised as girls (see David Reimer, a Canadian), I have to say I am opposed.
As to FGM, I am unalterably opposed. There is simply no justification for the removal of any part of the vagina (labia minora and majora and clitoris). It is barbaric and I would jail anyone, including doctors, who did it.
It was a sign of being in a covenant with God which started with Abraham. So why the penis? It was to show the covenant is not just for you but your seed. Your offspring were holy also and also partakers of the covenant. In my view all this was looking forwards to the coming of Christ who would be the "holy seed" of Israel. So circumcision was showing the holiness of Israel until the promised seed came for which they were made holy in the first place.Well, as you see there are two questions in this topic.
1. Is circumcision a good thing? I have heard many people say that circumcision is very important to people, and even in a country like the United States, people perform circumcision on babies without their permission. I have also seen some documentary that shows it is not such a good thing.
2. If you take the so called abrahamic theologies, the Bible clearly mandates circumcision. In the New Testament of course there is a dispute, and it is disputed. The Quran has no verse speaking of circumcision. Zilch, but for Muslims though they call it Sunnath, it is almost mandatory. So considering each theology, is it mandated by God? And why??
What thoughts do you have on this?
I view circumcision as genital mutilation, so I certainly don't think God demands it.Well, as you see there are two questions in this topic.
1. Is circumcision a good thing? I have heard many people say that circumcision is very important to people, and even in a country like the United States, people perform circumcision on babies without their permission. I have also seen some documentary that shows it is not such a good thing.
2. If you take the so called abrahamic theologies, the Bible clearly mandates circumcision. In the New Testament of course there is a dispute, and it is disputed. The Quran has no verse speaking of circumcision. Zilch, but for Muslims though they call it Sunnath, it is almost mandatory. So considering each theology, is it mandated by God? And why??
What thoughts do you have on this?
I think it comes up periodical every time the last occurrence is long enough in the past so that nobody wants to dig it up to link to it.I wonder if there is some way to know just how many times this topic has been brought up.
I remember having had a lengthy, heated but civil debate with @Harel13 on the matter. So here I will simply state my position and then also bow out.Despite that, it always seems to draw a crowd. You’ve opened the floodgates, flung wide the barn doors, unlocked the corral.
For my personal safety, and because I’ve seen this movie too many times already, I’m going to stand aside and avoid being engulfed or trampled upon.
Have fun!