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Can you provide a definition of love without using the word 'love' in the definition?
So the answer is, No.I can not explain it differently
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Can you provide a definition of love without using the word 'love' in the definition?
So the answer is, No.I can not explain it differently
As you say, many judge or get angry at a God if they them self suffer, or see others suffering.
My question is no attack at any person, but a question of why some, not all blame God for the bad in the world, or their own suffering is Gods fault.
Is it?
Maybe it is our one faults we suffering as human beings?
I can not speak of atheists since og they was to blame God, i dont know who they blame, since they dont believe in Gods existance.
This is something i dont do as a muslim, i just dont judge Allah, for my own suffering.
Can you explain if or why you judge a God with it's wisdom, when in my understanding humans dont hold Gods wisdom?
The Nakshibendi Tarikat is the order i belong to under sufi Sheykh Lokman EfendiSee brother, throughout the history of 14 centuries after the prophet Muhammed, at least since around 150-200 years after the prophet, the usage of Aqal or "reason" was prevalent in many schools of thought beginning from the old school of Medina, the Maliki tradition.
This is the rational mind questioning the Islamic theology and the nature of God. Questioning does not mean judging.
Lets say I read a passage somewhere that has something irrational about God, like a passage that says "God ordered all the animals in a village to be killed" or "babies to be killed specifically" I would question it for sure. I say "IF".
Also, in the study of Islamic theodicy, even someone like Ibn Taimiyya would question it. Only if you question God's motives will you be able to study it. If you study it without question, that's blind belief, and Islamic tradition from the earliest schools of thought does not teach that kind of blind belief.
I dont know whether you come from a Thakleedh school of thought but that is a little new, and not really the true tradition dating back to the earliest times.
I hope you understand.
The Nakshibendi Tarikat is the order i belong to under sufi Sheykh Lokman Efendi
As you know, my arabic language knowledge is limited, but if you mean the teacher only take one student at the time, it is not soThats interesting. I am not very much aware of the theology.
Whats the primary teaching in this context brother? Is it Thaqleed or Aqal based?
As you know, my arabic language knowledge is limited, but if you mean the teacher only take one student at the time, it is not so
The teaching is about getting as close as possible to live like prophet Muhammed, so sunnah, quran and hadith is important to know and understand, and of course i lack a lot here yet. My understanding is at the moment very limited.
nakshibendi tarika is more Sunni related than shia, but as a sufi we only say muslim, not Sunni or shia.
I add some from the website of nakshbendi tarika
The Nakshibendi Tarikat is the Most Distinguished of the Sufi Paths to Allah. This distinction comes from its nisbat (spiritual lineage) coming through the Closest Friend of Prophet Muhammad (AS), Hazrat Abu Bakr el-Siddiq. The Nakshibendi Way has been passed through the Masters known as the Khwajagan through the centuries. In this last era, the Secret of the Nakshibendi Way was entrusted to Sultan el-Evliya Sheykh Mevlana Muhammad Nazil Adil el-Hakkani el-Kibrisi.
Thank you for clerifying your first questionOh no bro. What I meant is Thakleed means to follow without question. Its the concept of some of the schools of thought.
Aqal is to use your reason as well. Which is part of the oldest school of thought, the school of Medina, the school of Imam Malik ibn Anas, and of course many many early thoughts.
Bro. I understand the Nakshibandi Tariqa and the tracing of lineage back to the prophet and Abu Bakr, I just dont understand or actually am not knowledgeable in your particular line because I know that your theology requires you to have one Imam so I presume the name you mentioned belongs to him.
This is something i dont do as a muslim, i just dont judge Allah, for my own suffering.
Can you explain if or why you judge a God with it's wisdom, when in my understanding humans dont hold Gods wisdom?
That is your understanding not mine