@Left Coast when I said 'real' king I meant not this Christian spiritual reigning from heaven thing. He has to be, well, alive, and some kind of actual worldly ruler.
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None of this changes Jewish law.
Question: "What does it mean that Jesus is the son of David?"
Answer: Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the “son of David.” But the question arises, how could Jesus be the son of David if David lived approximately 1,000 years before Jesus? The answer is that Christ (the Messiah) was the fulfillment of the prophecy of the seed of David (2 Samuel 7:12–16). Jesus is the promised Messiah, which means He had to be of the lineage of David. Matthew 1 gives the genealogical proof that Jesus, in His humanity, was a direct descendant of Abraham and David through Joseph, Jesus’ legal father. The genealogy in Luke 3 traces Jesus’ lineage through His mother, Mary. Jesus is a descendant of David by adoption through Joseph and by blood through Mary. “As to his earthly life [Christ Jesus] was a descendant of David” (Romans 1:3).
Primarily, the title “Son of David” is more than a statement of physical genealogy. It is a Messianic title. When people referred to Jesus as the Son of David, they meant that He was the long-awaited Deliverer, the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.
Jesus was addressed as “Lord, thou son of David” several times by people who, by faith, were seeking mercy or healing. The woman whose daughter was being tormented by a demon (Matthew 15:22) and the two blind men by the wayside (Matthew 20:30) all cried out to the Son of David for help. The titles of honor they gave Him declared their faith in Him. Calling Him “Lord” expressed their sense of His deity, dominion, and power, and calling Him “Son of David,” expressed their faith that He was the Messiah.
The Pharisees understood exactly what the people meant when they called Jesus “Son of David.” But, unlike those who cried out in faith, the Pharisees were so blinded by their own pride that they couldn’t see what the blind beggars could see—that here was the Messiah they had supposedly been waiting for all their lives. They hated Jesus because He wouldn’t give them the honor they thought they deserved, so when they heard the people hailing Jesus as the Savior, they became enraged (Matthew 21:15) and plotted to destroy Him (Luke 19:47).
Jesus further confounded the scribes and Pharisees by asking them to explain the meaning of this very title: how could it be that the Messiah is the son of David when David himself refers to Him as “my Lord” (Mark 12:35–37; cf. Psalm 110:1)? The teachers of the Law couldn’t answer the question. Jesus thereby exposed the Jewish leaders’ ineptitude as teachers and their ignorance of what the Old Testament taught as to the true nature of the Messiah, further alienating them from Him.
Jesus’ point in asking the question of Mark 12:35 was that the Messiah is more than the physical son of David. If He is David’s Lord, He must be greater than David. As Jesus says in Revelation 22:16, “I am the Root and the Offspring of David.” That is, He is both the Creator of David and the Descendant of David. Only the Son of God made flesh could say that.
Looks like that word is more often translated as a hook, not a nail. But I see where you're coming from, now. Thanks.The definition of the hebrew word Vav is nail. Strong's #2053 - וָו - Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
@Left Coast when I said 'real' king I meant not this Christian spiritual reigning from heaven thing. He has to be, well, alive, and some kind of actual world ruler.
Can you show me where there is any discussion of step children in the tanach and where the text says that, under the laws, they are equivalent to biological children?The halacha in the Tankah doesn't describe a person's step children as different from their biological children. What does it mean that Jesus is the son of David? | GotQuestions.org
Can you show me where there is any discussion of step children in the tanach and where the text says that, under the laws, they are equivalent to biological children?
The definition of the hebrew word Vav is nail. Strong's #2053 - וָו - Old Testament Hebrew Lexicon
Saying something isn't in the Tanakh and deciding it must be true anyway since it resolves a conflict in your theology should surely make you think that your theology is wrong, not that G-d was so vague that millions of people misunderstood what He was saying.I believe Jesus will reign as some kind of actual world ruler when he returns. Zechariah 14:4 talks about the reappearance of the Messiah. While the second coming isn't explicitly mentioned in the Old Testament, it's consistent and resolves vague details about the meaning of certain verses.
Ah hah. Strong's Lexicon. The Christian talmud has struck again.
Saying something isn't in the Tanakh and deciding it must be true anyway since it resolves a conflict in your theology should surely make you think that your theology is wrong, not that G-d was so vague that millions of people misunderstood what He was saying.
It's not inconsistent with the teachings of the Tanach. Not all of the laws where mentioned in the Tanach. Some things were implied by default. The Tanach laws on people not marrying close relatives doesn't mention cousins, but that doesn't mean that cousin marriages were optimal situations.
No, you don't just get to make up doctrine that isn't found in the Tanakh. If there had been no Jesus, would you still believe in the second coming? Likely not, as the only theology that needs it is yours. You're inserting things into the Tanakh that you need to be there because your messiah failed. If he hadn't failed you wouldn't have to have the argument that he's going to come again and do it next time - I could say this about Harel, but as much as I may want Harel to be the Messiah, saying he'll come back and do it next time doesn't make him the Messiah.I'm not saying that the Tanakh was vague. Even if I am, can't that mean that there might be a second coming, since it isn't stated either way?
Sure it is.That's not what it says.
So in post 168, when I cite law, you dismiss it as from rabbis and not from the tanach, but when you need there to be some law that is not in the tanach, suddenly you can "imply by default" (whatever that means). Your decision about what isn't optimal is just yours, driven by what you want to find. Again, none changes actual law.
A stepparent (sometimes spelled step-parent) is a person who marries someone who already has a child. A stepparent is distinct from the natural parent or the legal parent and is only a parent to his or her spouse’s child by virtue of the marriage.
Some stepparenting relationships are wonderful and fill a vital role in the family. A stepmom or stepdad can be as close or closer to a child than the biological parent. Other families, however, are plagued with issues due to the children’s lack of acceptance of the stepparent or the stepparent’s lack of wisdom in dealing with the stepchildren. While the Bible does not specifically address the topic of stepparenting, many principles and examples may help blended families adapt to their new roles and create a happy environment where everyone can thrive.
Adoption is a recurring theme in the Bible and has some bearing on stepparenting. Even if there’s no legal adoption, the stepparent can benefit from treating his or her stepchildren as though they were adopted, offering acceptance and unconditional love. God calls Himself our Father and us His adopted children (Romans 8:15; Ephesians 1:5). A Christian stepparent can model to his or her stepchildren the love and tenderness that God has for us.
Jesus was raised in part by a stepfather. Joseph was not the biological father of Jesus (Luke 1:35), but he willingly took on the responsibility of raising a child that was not his. He modeled for other stepparents the right attitude toward Mary’s Son—so much so that Jesus was known as “the carpenter’s son” (Matthew 13:35).
Stepparents benefit from applying God’s instructions on marriage. Ephesians 5:21–33 is a blueprint for a godly marriage, and when the marriage is secure and happy, the stepparenting will go more smoothly. In God’s design for the family, husbands must be the leaders and love their wives sacrificially, and wives must follow their husbands’ leadership respectfully. Both parents must model their roles for the children. When stepchildren know their biological parent is happy and the home is a peaceful haven for everyone, many stepparenting issues will resolve themselves. Children feel secure in a home where both mother and father feel secure in their own relationship.
An issue can arise in stepparenting regarding parental authority. The biological parent may want the stepparent to assume the role of Mom or Dad, but then interfere when the newcomer tries to instruct or discipline the children. Jesus said, “A house divided will not stand” (Matthew 12:25). So wise parents will agree on boundaries and consequences before trying to co-parent the children. A stepparent entering an established family structure can find it overwhelming and may be tempted to bow out of all parental responsibility. However, if the biological parent will take the lead in establishing a healthy relationship between the children and the new parent, it is easier for everyone to adjust to the new roles. Any disagreement or confusion about parenting rules and discipline should be handled behind closed doors so the children always see a united front.
The Talmud is no more Torah than what Christians say. The Talmud saying that Jesus was a sorcerer isn't proof that he isn't the Messiah.
That's definitely one of the dumbest things I've heard this week at least. Lots of people have said that Psalm and not just the first line either.When Jesus was on the cross, he quoted the opening line from Psalm 22. He said, "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" By doing so, he was applying the psalm to himself. The psalm describes the righteous sufferer, publicly mocked and shamed, brought down to the jaws of death in the midst of terrible suffering and humiliation, and miraculously delivered by God, to the praise of his name. So it applies powerfully to Jesus, the ideal righteous sufferer.
This is fabricated completely by yourself.No Old Testament person could have imagined that his personal deliverance from death could be the occasion for the world's conversion. Such a hope must be restricted to the future Redeemer. Under inspiration of the Holy Spirit, David in Psalm 22 saw his descendant resembling, but far surpassing, himself in suffering. Furthermore, the deliverance of this descendant would have meaning for all mankind.
There is nothing in that Psalm that says that the nations would turn to the G-d of Israel as a result of someone's suffering.What other person's terrible suffering and death was worthy of worldwide attention to to the point that the nations actually turned to the God of Israel because of it? Applying this psalm to the Messiah is in keeping with the clear meaning of the text.
No, you don't just get to make up doctrine that isn't found in the Tanakh. If there had been no Jesus, would you still believe in the second coming? Likely not, as the only theology that needs it is yours. You're inserting things into the Tanakh that you need to be there because your messiah failed. If he hadn't failed you wouldn't have to have the argument that he's going to come again and do it next time - I could say this about Harel, but as much as I may want Harel to be the Messiah, saying he'll come back and do it next time doesn't make him the Messiah.
You realize that the web page you cited says the following:The Tanakh doesn't treat stepchildren and biological children as legally different. What does the Bible say about stepparenting / step-parenting? | GotQuestions.org
Also, where in the NT does it state that Matthew provides Joseph's line and Luke provides Mary's line? Are you sure you are not just making that up?