A town built for Blacks. Made by Blacks. (No whites allowed save for a few select)

[ImmortalFlame]

Pay attention. What does the title of the thread say?

"No whites allowed save for a select few", which is something not supported by any of the sources. Even the headline of your original source says "blacks only", which is blatantly false.

 

[Nimos]

Its called Wakanda.

Black Activists Plan Blacks-Only Town ‘Wakanda’ in Georgia

Would it be racist if whites did something like this?


Thoughts?

Can't be bothered to read all of it and just go with assumptions

I think it would create a lot of issues for those white people and there would definitely be people pointing fingers at them and calling them racists. But honestly there is probably also people that will point fingers at these black activists and call them racists as well.

But I think they are doing it wrong, if they are against racism and want to help fight and improve it for the better. Doing something like this seems like a very bad idea.

Mostly because, white people that are racists, would then have an argument for why they shouldn't be allowed to do the same. So overall I think its a bad idea...

Again, I haven't read it and just going on assumptions of what the plan might be really about

 

[LightofTruth]

Its called Wakanda.

Black Activists Plan Blacks-Only Town ‘Wakanda’ in Georgia

Would it be racist if whites did something like this?


Thoughts?

Do they mention whether the town is to be affordable for poor blacks?

 

[SkepticThinker]

Its called Wakanda.

Black Activists Plan Blacks-Only Town ‘Wakanda’ in Georgia

Would it be racist if whites did something like this?


Thoughts?

White people have been doing this for a long time already.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Should gated communities be marketed as pro white and pro black?

Not legally. But that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen quietly. Back when I moved to Springfield, the first agent we had would only show us houses in predominantly white neighborhoods, all of which were much higher than our price range. We asked about some other neighborhoods, but she said that we wouldn't want to live there...no reason given.... We dropped her when she went on a rant about needing to bust all the unions... including the state unions...of which I was a member...

Our next agent didn't talk politics and didn't steer us toward particular neighborhoods despite our price limit, and listened to us and found us a nice neighborhood in our price range, and low and behold it was integrated, too...

now, that's been 30-some years ago...but I understand that such practices still occur, although more stealthily...

 

[ImmortalFlame]

The idea seems a bit dangerous, to all involved.

Things might go smoothly at first, but in the long haul, who decides what 'Black' is? What happens if one is of a mixed heritage, or has preferences that aren't 'Black' enough?

I say this because while growing up, my best friend was a frequent target off bullying due to this stuff. She is Black, but she wasn't 'Black enough' for other Black people. Her music tastes were different(she was mostly into heavy metal), and she wore goth style clothes. "You are trying to be white" was what she heard all the time. Her response typically was "You can't act like I color. I'm just trying to be me".

When any group segregates and excludes others, there is a potential for problems. It may start out with good intentions, but in the long run, it creates an atmosphere of suspicion and discrimination amongst each other.

Not that I am saying it's a good idea, but when the decisions were made that lead to segregation and Jim Crow, white society didn't have too many problems in determining who (or what) counted as "white". This is where you get the historical phenomenon of "whiteness" as a restricted class of privilege. For instance, for many years Irish and Italian populations in America were not legally considered "white", and were thus not entitled to the same rights as white Americans.

In any case, it turns out that race is not a barrier in this community as implied by the OP, as white people are allowed. The question now is what is considered a "black ally".

 

[LightofTruth]

Maybe they can build BIG houses for the rich blacks and slum projects for the poor ones.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

For anyone interested, here is their official page:

https://thefreedomgeorgiainitiative.com/

 

[exchemist]

Here's a nice little 'reputable' lefty site catered just for you.....


19 families buy nearly 97 acres of land in Georgia to create a city safe for Black people - CNN

Thanks. What I get from reading this quite long and informative article, with a few multi-syllable words in it - if that makes it "lefty" - is that it is not intended to be exclusively for blacks:

"It's impossible to have anything exclusively Black because our families are integrated," says Scott. "We are an integrated, tolerant and diverse community even as Black people, so we don't intend for it to be exclusively Black, but we do intend for it to be pro Black in every way."

Also, informatively, the article mentions that previous black townships have existed in the USA since the end of the c.19th, for instance Hobson City Alabama, a former black ghetto which was given its own status in 1899. It is still almost exclusively black to this day, a triumph of US racial integration.


(Speaking as an Englishman who has frequently voted Conservative, I do appreciate the effort you have made to indulge my "lefty" prejudices.)

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

"No whites allowed save for a select few", which is something not supported by any of the sources. Even the headline of your original source says "blacks only", which is blatantly false.

Looking at the only source I could find about this that isn't a blog post, it seems that @Twilight Hue 's source even got the name of the town wrong: it's called Freedom, not Wakanda. Seems that one of the people behind the project described it as "our Wakanda" in an interview; I'm guessing that's where the misunderstanding came from.

Black families buy 97 land in Georgia to build a town where whites will not be encouraged to move | Daily Mail Online

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Its called Wakanda.

Black Activists Plan Blacks-Only Town ‘Wakanda’ in Georgia

Would it be racist if whites did something like this?


Thoughts?

Plenty of white people have made whites-only communities; why did you choose not to focus on them?

 

[exchemist]

I think the hot words are "pro Black".

As with you, I myself wonder just what the hell is that supposed to mean?

Presumably police that don't strangle you or shoot you in the back?

 

[JustGeorge]

For anyone interested, here is their official page:

https://thefreedomgeorgiainitiative.com/

This explains it a lot better. Thanks.

Looks more like a commune with specific values.

 

[Estro Felino]

I guess "segregationist" is the right term here, which is wrong imho

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I guess "segregationist" is the right term here, which is wrong imho

Check out the new sources we've uncovered. The project is actually explicitly not only for black people, but welcomes all black allies.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Looking at the only source I could find about this that isn't a blog post, it seems that @Twilight Hue 's source even got the name of the town wrong: it's called Freedom, not Wakanda. Seems that one of the people behind the project described it as "our Wakanda" in an interview; I'm guessing that's where the misunderstanding came from.

Black families buy 97 land in Georgia to build a town where whites will not be encouraged to move | Daily Mail Online

A really cynical part of me thinks that there's a possibility the misnaming may have been intentional, in order to make people less likely to look up the project for themselves and realize that it isn't quite what the blog writer (or, more likely, the YouTuber who is the blog writer's only source) says it is.

But, that's just the cynical part of me. Do not ascribe malice blah blah.

 

[ppp]

The idea that this is a town intended only for black people is very misleading though.

Not just misleading. It's a damned lie.

 

[exchemist]

"No whites allowed save for a select few", which is something not supported by any of the sources. Even the headline of your original source says "blacks only", which is blatantly false.

What intrigues me is the motivation of someone like @Twilight Hue in posting this without making any of the obvious checks.

It is obvious that if it really were an attempt to create a town exclusively for one racial group, it would be against the law. So why did the poster not investigate a bit before posting? And why, when people like me queried the source, do they get labelled as "lefties" for daring to ask?

But now, thanks to the efforts of several contributors, the real story emerges - and it is not as caricatured in the OP. Quelle surprise.

P.S. Having said all that, I do not think this initiative is a good idea. I think the country needs to work on integration, not reinforcing separation between races.

 

[Erebus]

A really cynical part of me thinks that there's a possibility the misnaming may have been intentional, in order to make people less likely to look up the project for themselves and realize that it isn't quite what the blog writer (or, more likely, the YouTuber who is the blog writer's only source) says it is.

But, that's just the cynical part of me. Do not ascribe malice blah blah.

For what it's worth, when I first saw the thread I actually googled Wakanda to see what it was all about. I'm not really into superhero stuff so I wasn't aware of the fictional city. Needless to say, that made my first attempt at finding more information come up with articles that just weren't relevant. It wasn't especially difficult to find sources if I'm honest but the name did trip me up.

I'm inclined to say that the misnaming probably wasn't designed to make searching more difficult. However, I wouldn't call that a baseless suspicion either.

 

[exchemist]

For what it's worth, when I first saw the thread I actually googled Wakanda to see what it was all about. I'm not really into superhero stuff so I wasn't aware of the fictional city. Needless to say, that made my first attempt at finding more information come up with articles that just weren't relevant. It wasn't especially difficult to find sources if I'm honest but the name did trip me up.

I'm inclined to say that the misnaming probably wasn't designed to make searching more difficult. However, I wouldn't call that a baseless suspicion either.

My first thought was that it was to make it seem more "African", you know, "tribal", bones through noses, that sort of thing.