That's God's call, not mine and according to the Bible, as long as this system is still going on, things can go both ways so salvation is not guaranteed.
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Salvation
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That's God's call, not mine and according to the Bible, as long as this system is still going on, things can go both ways so salvation is not guaranteed.
JJonathan
New Member
Through repentance. I got down on my knees and confessed my sins, asked God to forgive me, and through grace for Jesus Christ’s sake, the Father granted me pardon and new life.
I would say when you, or "I" stopped caring about being saved.
If there is a God, then my salvation is in God's hands. Not much I can do about it.
If there is no God, then I was saved from worrying about it.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
so you are not in control
and your freewill is null effect?
Aupmanyav
Be your own guru
No. But no problem, many people pass their lives in ignorance. It does not make much difference in day-to-day life. You see, whether it is an enlightened person or an idiot, after the life it is chemical recycling. No one escaped that and no one can escape that.
Does @Nakosis believe in freewill?
God pardoned even Hitler. There is no end to Lord's mercy.
You do not know. It will be known only on the Judgment Day. @Vee says salvation is not guaranteed. See above.
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Thief
Rogue Theologian
if you have a line to draw....by your will
you uphold that line.....by your will
and no one else can impose a line drawn.......
Thief
Rogue Theologian
God might forgive.....
but Hitler likely ended up in one of two places
among others that think and feel as he did
or
surrounded by the Jews
either way.....it might be hell
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I believe in Hierarchy
My belief system doesn't include any gods I need to be saved from.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
do you need to be saved?......from yourself
if no one else wishes to be near you
you might have a shot at solitude
at length
alsome
Member
I get out of that: the spirits are all of the same blend of all other spirits. And the blend is continued on by dyeing persons, So in your mind god sets up the task un-done and he punishes them with ineptable death, but their spirits will go to, what---heaven or hell ?
And what about Cain---going to heaven is he, and poor Able, trying to find heaven !
Sorry, no salvation from no-where, the spirit in me ??? I guess it goes on also, to mix with the chorus praising some un-seen super colossus Great Spirit. That's a real large choral group.
And what about Cain---going to heaven is he, and poor Able, trying to find heaven !
Sorry, no salvation from no-where, the spirit in me ??? I guess it goes on also, to mix with the chorus praising some un-seen super colossus Great Spirit. That's a real large choral group.
Nope. Matthew 24:13.
Hopefully.
I'll keep on trying to listen to God.
Can you imagine being around to see Isaiah 11:6-9 literally happening?! Or what about seeing John 5:28-29 fulfilled? People actually being resurrected! Awesome!
Hopefully.
I'll keep on trying to listen to God.
Can you imagine being around to see Isaiah 11:6-9 literally happening?! Or what about seeing John 5:28-29 fulfilled? People actually being resurrected! Awesome!
MonkeyFire
Well-Known Member
I can help, but you must save yourself in order to go to Heaven.
The answers you get won't necessarily mean anything unless you first define what you mean by "saved".
Saved from what?
And then brought into what?
Thief
Rogue Theologian
how about.....that item you fear the most
that item you have no control over
pick and choose
Jesus came to declare sins forgiven. So, that way I think all people are saved. But, that is not all. To get eternal life, one must be righteous. So, after one is saved from the judgment that would come because of sin, person must reject sin, otherwise the forgiveness is not useful.
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, Because he has anointed me to preach good news to the poor. He has sent me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim release to the captives, Recovering of sight to the blind, To deliver those who are crushed, And to proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord."
Luke 4:18-19
…"Neither do I condemn you. Go your way. From now on, sin no more."
John 8:11
These will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.
Mat. 25:46
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Romans 6:23