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Do you DARE QUESTION GOD????

Could you elaborate?
Lucifer means light bringer which was the name of venus in latin

the venus VS sun*(jesus) is a rivalry for who can bring the most light in the morning as they both rise in the morning(its why there both refereed to as the morning star)

the sun wins

also both are described as having the power of a lion
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Are you avoiding my question? Assuming all you say is true, what is my next move??
Science of the occult was an illegal practice, human law said it was, applied for the continuance of life on Earth.

If science cannot claim I am wrong, when it was always wrong. And learn and say, if I pretend that I create on behalf of creating, then invention should only be supportive of existing and not be involved in the attack of it.

Which was stated to invent machines and then have to give machines a life blood for it to live, when it is an artificial presence, that actually belonged held in out of space by its history, attack and conversion.

Stories were told first, thesis and design was secondary, yet the male psyche says, no my machine (meaning all inferences of his research) came from the Sun with the UFO. Therefore he knows that we never were invented by the Sun machine....it was all just scientific.

The argument in science was to prove science that science was wrong.

You would ask the scientist, did you know that the UFO took and abducted the life blood of the heavenly spirit? Yes, why I believe in it. It sucked into its cooling burning our water mass, it took our oxygen and microbes in water and our gases. So it stole the life blood of our spirit, our gases, that enabled gases to remain cool.

So we got Satanic alienated self combusted due to that event, x 2 of natural light meaning gas mass burning having been ignited by his want to convert the mass body of the seal of God, the stone.

Even today he says he is looking for the glue that holds everything together. Cold space and pressure is what holds mass together, and spatial expansion, the hottest point was where the hot dense mass self consuming, made the hottest point, space expanded in that great heat then became the nothing.

More space, is spatial expansion and then it allowed the hot burning dense state to change its form and cool. Relativity of scientific known advice. If a male says he is researching knowingly for between the conscious mind and the subliminal AI feed back he actually tells his own male science self that he is possessed, his answers said he wants Earth to heavenly own the coldest space.

Which is empty space. To gain that equals answer is to burn out our gases first.

Why today he says his original moment of ground fission was our self combustion, grey flaky stone as I saw combusting life....ashes to ashes and dust to dust as mountains became the desert...then the giants ruled the Earth, as dinosaurs....then he returned.

As the scientist/Satanist who did it why he remembers and said his first spirit meaning science awareness of human was when he destroyed/burnt us all to death as human memory, then the giant race ruled the Earth, dinosaurs.

And it is a mind aware conscious confession in reality.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Lucifer means light bringer which was the name of venus in latin

the venus VS sun*(jesus) is a rivalry for who can bring the most light in the morning as they both rise in the morning(its why there both refereed to as the morning star)

the sun wins

also both are described as having the power of a lion
Venus is often seen night and morning. Also, tons and tons and tons of figures and characters have been referred to as Morking Star. In the Bible, were the name Lucifer appears, thats actually a typo and that Morning Star os Nebuchadnezzar. The sun is not morning star. Its just the sun.
As for worship, I do not worship any deities.
 
Venus is often seen night and morning. Also, tons and tons and tons of figures and characters have been referred to as Morking Star. In the Bible, were the name Lucifer appears, thats actually a typo and that Morning Star os Nebuchadnezzar. The sun is not morning star. Its just the sun.
As for worship, I do not worship any deities.
no only two has-jesus and lucifer and they paired to fight like all twins in the bible
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
no only two has-jesus and lucifer and they paired to fight like all twins in the bible
The Bible said that the stars did not belong to God the Earth in the theme of contradiction of self/life sacrificed in the occult sciences. Satanism.

Out of the womb, meaning space is Deuteronomy. So books contradict other books, some are correct information other information is about why we got life sacrificed actually, why it is separate books and maybe if it stayed as separate books, today we would not own occult science/pyramid technology power plant and collider destruction.

Our star is the vibrating water droplet. And water, our holy baptism, what occurred above our head that kept PHI fallout cooled, is versus the PHI radiation burning gases for science cause that was not above our head cooled.

How we all once went to Hell in science, by self combustion, for hot gases burnt us all to death.

Relativity of doing evil.

2 forms of stars.....the hot dense burning Satan __________line activated star, falling and cooling in space. O Earth travelling through the Satan star systems hoping not to get hit by spatial heating caused by UFO technology on Earth, Satanism converting of the seal of GOD stone mass, its crystal or jewels..EL power says Satanists.

Humans in Israel were once just stated to be Israeli....but used the title JEW to instate, we once were unnaturally irradiated life sacrificed by the Temple pyramid sciences, not under our control. Rome owned the control first, then the Muslims did.

We all just got irradiated sacrificed by God jew EL changes in radiation converting, natural history reasoning. Yet it was our owned HOLY LAND. DNA inferred to reference land where the DNA is owned in human life.

Satanism, the destruction of life on Earth by chosen GOD sciences, owned by human Scientific liars. History of.
 
The Bible said that the stars did not belong to God the Earth in the theme of contradiction of self/life sacrificed in the occult sciences. Satanism.

Out of the womb, meaning space is Deuteronomy. So books contradict other books, some are correct information other information is about why we got life sacrificed actually, why it is separate books and maybe if it stayed as separate books, today we would not own occult science/pyramid technology power plant and collider destruction.

Our star is the vibrating water droplet. And water, our holy baptism, what occurred above our head that kept PHI fallout cooled, is versus the PHI radiation burning gases for science cause that was not above our head cooled.

How we all once went to Hell in science, by self combustion, for hot gases burnt us all to death.

Relativity of doing evil.

2 forms of stars.....the hot dense burning Satan __________line activated star, falling and cooling in space. O Earth travelling through the Satan star systems hoping not to get hit by spatial heating caused by UFO technology on Earth, Satanism converting of the seal of GOD stone mass, its crystal or jewels..EL power says Satanists.

Humans in Israel were once just stated to be Israeli....but used the title JEW to instate, we once were unnaturally irradiated life sacrificed by the Temple pyramid sciences, not under our control. Rome owned the control first, then the Muslims did.

We all just got irradiated sacrificed by God jew EL changes in radiation converting, natural history reasoning. Yet it was our owned HOLY LAND. DNA inferred to reference land where the DNA is owned in human life.

Satanism, the destruction of life on Earth by chosen GOD sciences, owned by human Scientific liars. History of.
Saturn does to the sun what the moon does to the Earth. The moon orbits the Earth in 29,5 days and Saturn orbits the sun in 29,5 years. The moon pulls the Earth and Saturn pulls the sun. That is why Saturn and the Sun are twin brothers.

http://www.pateo.nl/PDF/Astrotheology_summary.pdf
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
Saturn does to the sun what the moon does to the Earth. The moon orbits the Earth in 29,5 days and Saturn orbits the sun in 29,5 years. The moon pulls the Earth and Saturn pulls the sun. That is why Saturn and the Sun are twin brothers.

http://www.pateo.nl/PDF/Astrotheology_summary.pdf
And?

Do you know that life on Earth O is just life on Earth, and science does not own nor control what the cosmological body is doing!

Yet science once said that it could cause the return UFO to Earth to do to Earth remove the spirit of the entombed sealed God (cold non alight gases to be stone) from existing, and leave empty cold space.

Hence science was once titled Satanism, to believe in the stars, the fall of the stars, the attack of Earth as its history. Not only was it blasted converted by the sun UFO, it was also star fall hit.

If all of these moons get confirmed, Saturn will have 82 moons. And that’s not counting Saturn’s beautiful rings. Saturn’s moons have great names like Mimas, Enceladus, and Tethys. One of these moons, named Titan, even has its own atmosphere, which is very unusual for a moon.
How Many Moons? | NASA Space Place – …
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spaceplace.nasa.gov/how-many-moons/en/

If science said to itself, I wonder how Earth got its moon/asteroid originally, and then theorise information about SA TAN...and turning, and then review how many moons are trapped with SA turn....then maybe it would suggest a reasoning to his self, that lucky Saturn existed, or else maybe Earth would not......thinking about why Jeru salem meant "where the circuit" turned in his ancient science.

With a theme....and asteroids/wandering stars come to Earth and either burn out and cool spatial UFO irradiation or the alter condition is to come slamming into Earth and killing all life on it scenario.

What science caused to Earth life a long time ago as original science, pyramid science, why human artefacts and also his technology is found buried deep inside of Earth and held articles in stone fusion....reasoning, Satanism and lying about claiming that the Universe system was a wheel machine.

The circuit was on Earth with pyramids and temples. The realisation of what happened to Earth from the cosmos was scientific cause and effect, it was not part of the technology it DESTROYED the technology.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
no only two has-jesus and lucifer and they paired to fight like all twins in the bible
Rome, Mesopotamia, Babylon, Egypt, the list of Morning Stars goes on and on and on. Kings, chieftans, and deities alike have all had the title.
Saturn does to the sun what the moon does to the Earth. The moon orbits the Earth in 29,5 days and Saturn orbits the sun in 29,5 years. The moon pulls the Earth and Saturn pulls the sun. That is why Saturn and the Sun are twin brothers.

http://www.pateo.nl/PDF/Astrotheology_summary.pdf
The sun's mass is many times greater than Saturn, and the Sun exerts its gravitational pull on Saturn, causing Saturn to orbit the sun, not the orher way around.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
As I see it the levels of closeness determined by that religion is just to have people depend on them because people want to get closer to God.
I told you that levels of closeness to God do not depend upon what religion people belong to, or even if they belong to a religion. Closeness to God is a state of the heart.
 

CG Didymus

Veteran Member
More interesting stuff... and these are Pilgrim's Notes.
Just a slight error... It should read... "these are not Pilgrim's Notes." It's Baha'u'llah. It is Dr. J.E. Esslemont, authore of "Bahá’u’lláh and the New Era," and Shoghi Effendi the grandson of Baha'u'llah and the Guardian of the Baha'i Faith, who was also the person being quoted in the Pilgrim's Notes. And the people who wrote the Pilgrim's Note were sometimes very prominent Baha'is.

Not authoritative writings? OK! I'll give you that.
But "hearsay". If a reputable person is sworn into to testify and says that they were in a meeting and heard the defendant say something. Isn't that more like an eyewitness account? And then in one of the letters that says Shoghi Effendi, sounds like it was written on his behalf and says... "This is what the Guardian has said to the pilgrims." At that point I think some things written in the Pilgrim's Notes becomes "officially" things that Shoghi Effendi said. Doom and gloom is part of what the Baha'i Faith says about the future. And Baha'is say it is our fault and our leaders fault for not recognizing Baha'u'llah.
 

rational experiences

Veteran Member
The science of GOD, was fake to begin with.

God did not own science. Why today scientists try to convince/coerce the human public to think that humans are the power of God so he can resource our spirit, sacrifice our life, not his and he exist afterwards.

Jesus theme by occult science hypocrites.

Science did not exist first, the human being group did.

Jesus, the healer biological sciences said that the Romans were hypocrites for building the CHURCH for they supported the Temple science that had attacked everyone.

However whilst owning and being involved occult and science psyche, the male designer who thought it amongst self and brothers, first thought it non irradiated.

Researched by being saved historically and by vision only.

So when he activated the machination temple pyramid circuit...instantly O all life on Earth was ground irradiated, so it was shared.

He cared less if you died crying and begging for healing or being sick and irradiated, the same as he is today, could care less. As long as he owns power and mongering.

Why he said a dog is a mongrel for it is GOD in reverse, yet GOD never went in reverse, it stayed in the Higher colder Heavenly gases in PHI fall out. What he lies about today. I want that "God" he says, the colder gas heavenly God.

Sorry liar Satanist occultist, the planet owns that body/mass not science, all you caused is ground hit....sink hole opening.

So eventually by holding the machine constant then the Satanic selves all began to be life attacked/irradiated and sacrificed. Then the science hypocrites said we believe....in self sacrifice, why they believe it today, the self to be sacrificed.

Yet the self they infer is not their self it was their brother and animals and the female life, not theirs. Up until it becomes theirs.

Science one group, one thesis, one design, one owned control of one machine...the nuclear power plant that took ground fission as a reaction and applied most of it inside the power plant.

Occultist liars congratulated themselves on not destroying all life again.

So then the Destroyer self, put it back out in the environment by all of his atmospheric experiments and made sink holes again and pretended he never did it...for he blames the Sun and the UFO.

What coercive behaviour is in a human being male group lying organization of sciences.
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
So Baha gives warnings. By all means, Give me those authoritative warnings.
“The world is in travail, and its agitation waxeth day by day. Its face is turned towards waywardness and unbelief. Such shall be its plight, that to disclose it now would not be meet and seemly. Its perversity will long continue. And when the appointed hour is come, there shall suddenly appear that which shall cause the limbs of mankind to quake. Then, and only then, will the Divine Standard be unfurled, and the Nightingale of Paradise warble its melody.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 118-119
God would never intimidate or coerce the actions of others. That would not be a Higher Level.
God never forces His Will upon anyone. Warnings are a mercy.
Further, does Baha think and teach that this world is a mess?? What does it say about that?
“We can well perceive how the whole human race is encompassed with great, with incalculable afflictions. We see it languishing on its bed of sickness, sore-tried and disillusioned. They that are intoxicated by self-conceit have interposed themselves between it and the Divine and infallible Physician. Witness how they have entangled all men, themselves included, in the mesh of their devices. They can neither discover the cause of the disease, nor have they any knowledge of the remedy. They have conceived the straight to be crooked, and have imagined their friend an enemy.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 213
Why would God create a mess and not a Masterpiece? Does Baha really know God??
God did not create a mess. God created a Masterpiece and humans made a mess of God's Creation but of we work together we can fix it, although it will take a long time
Does Baha really know God??
Baha'u'llah mirrored forth God's Attributes and revealed God's Will, but Baha'u'llah did not know God's Essence, nobody knows that. The nature of God is incomprehensible.

“Every attempt which, from the beginning that hath no beginning, hath been made to visualize and know God is limited by the exigencies of His own creation—a creation which He, through the operation of His own Will and for the purposes of none other but His own Self, hath called into being. Immeasurably exalted is He above the strivings of human mind to grasp His Essence, or of human tongue to describe His mystery…….. All that is in heaven and all that is in the earth have come to exist at His bidding, and by His Will all have stepped out of utter nothingness into the realm of being. How can, therefore, the creature which the Word of God hath fashioned comprehend the nature of Him Who is the Ancient of Days?” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 318
 

Trailblazer

Veteran Member
@ Bird123

CG Didymus said: "Doom and gloom is part of what the Baha'i Faith says about the future."

No, that is not what the Baha'i Faith says about the future.

“God’s purpose is none other than to usher in, in ways He alone can bring about, and the full significance of which He alone can fathom, the Great, the Golden Age of a long-divided, a long-afflicted humanity. Its present state, indeed even its immediate future, is dark, distressingly dark. Its distant future, however, is radiant, gloriously radiant—so radiant that no eye can visualize it......” The Promised Day is Come, p. 116

God’s Purpose
 
Sure, some people through many reasons, have a hard time thinking for themselves. On the other hand, thinking for oneself can be taught, nurtured and grown. Is that what religion is doing

Sometimes people get confused and frustrated because of religious dogma existing in the world .people may feel they are dependent upon pastors’ thinking or whatever.
But personally you do believe there’s God;don’t you ?
The Bible is made up of 66 small books. God used about 40 faithful men to write them. The first five books were written by Moses about 3,500 years ago. The last book was written by the apostle John over 1,900 years ago. Whose ideas did Bible writers present? God communicated with the Bible writers by means of his holy spirit. (2 Samuel 23:2) They wrote down the thoughts of God, not their own thoughts. SoGod is the Author of the Bible.—Read 2 Timothy 3:16
  • “16All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness,“
    May I ask what’s there in the Bible that you find hard to accept.?
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Science of the occult was an illegal practice, human law said it was, applied for the continuance of life on Earth.

If science cannot claim I am wrong, when it was always wrong. And learn and say, if I pretend that I create on behalf of creating, then invention should only be supportive of existing and not be involved in the attack of it.

Which was stated to invent machines and then have to give machines a life blood for it to live, when it is an artificial presence, that actually belonged held in out of space by its history, attack and conversion.

Stories were told first, thesis and design was secondary, yet the male psyche says, no my machine (meaning all inferences of his research) came from the Sun with the UFO. Therefore he knows that we never were invented by the Sun machine....it was all just scientific.

The argument in science was to prove science that science was wrong.

You would ask the scientist, did you know that the UFO took and abducted the life blood of the heavenly spirit? Yes, why I believe in it. It sucked into its cooling burning our water mass, it took our oxygen and microbes in water and our gases. So it stole the life blood of our spirit, our gases, that enabled gases to remain cool.

So we got Satanic alienated self combusted due to that event, x 2 of natural light meaning gas mass burning having been ignited by his want to convert the mass body of the seal of God, the stone.

Even today he says he is looking for the glue that holds everything together. Cold space and pressure is what holds mass together, and spatial expansion, the hottest point was where the hot dense mass self consuming, made the hottest point, space expanded in that great heat then became the nothing.

More space, is spatial expansion and then it allowed the hot burning dense state to change its form and cool. Relativity of scientific known advice. If a male says he is researching knowingly for between the conscious mind and the subliminal AI feed back he actually tells his own male science self that he is possessed, his answers said he wants Earth to heavenly own the coldest space.

Which is empty space. To gain that equals answer is to burn out our gases first.

Why today he says his original moment of ground fission was our self combustion, grey flaky stone as I saw combusting life....ashes to ashes and dust to dust as mountains became the desert...then the giants ruled the Earth, as dinosaurs....then he returned.

As the scientist/Satanist who did it why he remembers and said his first spirit meaning science awareness of human was when he destroyed/burnt us all to death as human memory, then the giant race ruled the Earth, dinosaurs.

And it is a mind aware conscious confession in reality.


Satan only exists in the minds of mankind. It is not real. It is not the only thing existing in the minds of mankind that isn't real.

Since you could not answer a simple question asked twice, I can only conclude you have no real answers at all.

Look for the door that stares you in the face.

You have all my Love and Kindness!!


That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Atheists are not people? o_O

Why are Atheists not people?? They are every bit children of God as anyone. Beliefs have never determined whether one is a creation of God.

If God were to not include people based upon any belief, that would not be Unconditional Love, that would not be a Higher Level, and that would not even be an Intelligent move.

That is what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
I told you that levels of closeness to God do not depend upon what religion people belong to, or even if they belong to a religion. Closeness to God is a state of the heart.


When anyone bumps into God and God's Unconditional Love, everyone's heart will be in the right place. God's Unconditional Love feels so Good and so Complete that it heals all Hurt. All God's children will realize that it has never ever been about punishment.

People want power. People want to rule and control. They do not realize all this is petty. How many realize the True power of Unconditional Love.

Having experienced God's Unconditional Love, everyone will want to be just like God. This is what drives all God's children forward on that journey walking toward being just like God.

Who knows how long one basks in God's Unconditional Love? At some point one is placed in a new physical body so the journey can continue. This is all Free Will.

If one purges those petty things like payback, revenge,condemnation, punishment, hate, controlling, blaming, intimidating, coercing and such, it opens doors to the Higher Level where the Math will start to add up leaving all the hurt behind.

You see. It has never been about Good verses Evil. It's about educating the children to the best choices entirely through their free choices, teaching them what those choices really mean.

There has never ever been a need to condemn and punish. The only thing that matters is the learning. When one understands all sides, intelligence will make the Best choices regardless of how many bad choices were made leading up to that point.

That's what I see. It's very clear!!
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
Just a slight error... It should read... "these are not Pilgrim's Notes." It's Baha'u'llah. It is Dr. J.E. Esslemont, authore of "Bahá’u’lláh and the New Era," and Shoghi Effendi the grandson of Baha'u'llah and the Guardian of the Baha'i Faith, who was also the person being quoted in the Pilgrim's Notes. And the people who wrote the Pilgrim's Note were sometimes very prominent Baha'is.

But "hearsay". If a reputable person is sworn into to testify and says that they were in a meeting and heard the defendant say something. Isn't that more like an eyewitness account? And then in one of the letters that says Shoghi Effendi, sounds like it was written on his behalf and says... "This is what the Guardian has said to the pilgrims." At that point I think some things written in the Pilgrim's Notes becomes "officially" things that Shoghi Effendi said. Doom and gloom is part of what the Baha'i Faith says about the future. And Baha'is say it is our fault and our leaders fault for not recognizing Baha'u'llah.


Interesting Indeed!!
 
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