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Victims of Communism
- Thread starter Nicholas
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Is this the guy that Trump had at one of his SotU addresses?
exchemist
Veteran Member
PureX
Veteran Member
North Korea is not "communism". It's a totalitarian dictatorship.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
I don't think that an analysis of the Juche system and ideology is the subject of this thead. I think it's supposed to talk about the horrible state of human rights in North Korea and the courage and luck needed to escape such a terrible place which this man had in plenty apparently.
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
Academic definitional blather. The Korean man calls his nation Communist, which he knows better than we armchair experts.
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
By the by, the late, brave Bukovsky has had his book on the Soviet state, after Stalin, finally put into English:
Judgment in Moscow — Vladimir Bukovsky 1942-2019
Judgment in Moscow — Vladimir Bukovsky 1942-2019
Here in the USA Republicans called Obama a Communist quite often.
Doesn't mean it's true. North Korea is demonstrably not Communist or the state would be withering away. Nor is it a "Democratic Republic". Just because someone says something doesn't make it true.
Tom
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
This is how the book begins:
http://kissin.dk/favourite/judgementinmoscowbukovsky.pdf
Another source on the post Stalin Soviet Communist machinations is:
The Bukovsky Archives
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BSM1
What? Me worry?
If he gets to the US he can probably get a job at IHOP...hahaha (sorry, I couldn't stop me. Too soon?)
PureX
Veteran Member
Spreading and maintaining ignorance doesn't help anyone, anywhere. N. Korea is a totalitarian state. It's no more a "commune" than a prison is.
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
Read the links I offered and then think about what Bukovsky wrote & discovered in the Soviet archives.
Tambourine
Well-Known Member
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
Right - so the CCP, Chinese Communist Party is also a misnomer. When will they learn the proper terminology.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
Right - so the CCP, Chinese Communist Party is also a misnomer. When will they learn the proper terminology.
They don't want to be called Juche or Maoist. They want to be called communists, because at the time those names were picked, communism was very popular and well seen. It's for the same reason national-socialists called themselves socialist even though they killed and imprisonned them. It's propaganda. The Lord's Resistance Army isn't some sort of freedom fighter organisation they are the Christian version of ISIS. Names aren't what you are; they are what you want people to think you are.
Nicholas
Bodhicitta
A Commie by any name would smell as foul.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Same difference. Communism is totalitarian at its rotten core.
epronovost
Well-Known Member
Communism is stateless at its core. How can a stateless society be totalitarian? I think you might be confusing leninism or socialism with communism. They aren't the same thing.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Joseph Stalin.