Is World unity happening now?

[Milton Platt]

This time I am speechless and have nothing to say. This ‘gathering speaks for itself’.

What a time we are living in full of hope and promise. Love and peace to all my human brothers and sisters.

I have been on the earth for nearly 7 decades.....and I don't see it.

 

[Trailblazer]

I have been on the earth for nearly 7 decades.....and I don't see it.

I do not see it either but that does not mean it ain't coming down the pike.

We are living in a new era but it is just the dawn and the darkest hour is always before the dawn.

 

[Milton Platt]

I do not see it either but that does not mean it ain't coming down the pike.

We are living in a new era but it is just the dawn and the darkest hour is always before the dawn.

I do not human nature has fundamentally changed, therefore any changes you might think you see are very transient.

 

[Trailblazer]

I do not human nature has fundamentally changed, therefore any changes you might think you see are very transient.

I do not see any change in human nature either, not yet.
Changes like that take a very long time, but we have to start somewhere.
I think we have started to change, and it took this pandemic get the ball rolling in the right direction.

 

[ManSinha]

it took this pandemic get the ball rolling in the right direction.

There have been previous pandemics and they did not do squat for world unity other than gradually increased scientific and academic collaboration. The political and cultural divides will remain after this is done IMO - this is not going to usher in some major change as you seem to think.

 

[Trailblazer]

There have been previous pandemics and they did not do squat for world unity.

The people of the world were not ready for world unity yet, so the time was not right.

The political and cultural divides will remain after this is done IMO - this is not going to usher in some major change as you seem to think.

I believe they will remain for a while, maybe a long while, but eventually major change will come.
Of course this is based upon my Baha'i beliefs, in which I have complete faith.

But the future is not here yet, so it is simply a 'vision' of things to come.

 

[ManSinha]

Of course this is based upon my Baha'i beliefs, in which I have complete faith.

Among your Baha'i beliefs is the fact that a person by the name of Adam existed a long time ago and was a manifestation. Well - newsflash - Adam did not exist. So if one fact can be inaccurate - so can others - this pipe dream of "world unity" is yet another one.

 

[Trailblazer]

Among your Baha'i beliefs is the fact that a person by the name of Adam existed a long time ago and was a manifestation. Well - newsflash - Adam did not exist. So if one fact can be inaccurate - so can others - this pipe dream of "world unity" is yet another one.

How do you know that Adam did not exist?

 

[ManSinha]

How do you know that Adam did not exist?

I do not have to prove that - your faith claims he did - up to you to supply the proof - I am questioning a myth - do you not know how scientific proof works?

Just as I do not have to prove that Baha'u'llah was not anything he claimed to be - as I have said before my opinion goes from unhinged person to charlatan - take your pick

As to Adam

1. IF he did - there would need to be incest committed to populate the world
2. The genetic drift from two individuals is not reflected in the genetic diversity today
3. Humans have existed for far more than the 6000 years that Adam was supposed to have existed
4. Christian scholars have questioned the existence of Adam

Of course you have your blind beliefs because Baha’u’llah said so .....

 

[Trailblazer]

As to Adam

1. IF he did - there would need to be incest committed to populate the world
2. The genetic drift from two individuals is not reflected in the genetic diversity today
3. Humans have existed for far more than the 6000 years that Adam was supposed to have existed
4. Christian scholars have questioned the existence of Adam.

Bahais do not believe that Adam was the first man. We believe that Adam was the first Prophet in the Adamic Cycle of religion. Rethinking Adam

We believe that humans have existed for about 200,000 years and Prophets/Messengers have been sent to humans ever since humans evolved. As such, there were many cycles of religion before the Adamic Cycle of religion even though there are no records of them.

“And now regarding thy question, “How is it that no records are to be found concerning the Prophets that have preceded Adam, the Father of Mankind, or of the kings that lived in the days of those Prophets?” Know thou that the absence of any reference to them is no proof that they did not actually exist. That no records concerning them are now available, should be attributed to their extreme remoteness, as well as to the vast changes which the earth hath undergone since their time.

Moreover such forms and modes of writing as are now current amongst men were unknown to the generations that were before Adam. There was even a time when men were wholly ignorant of the art of writing, and had adopted a system entirely different from the one which they now use. For a proper exposition of this an elaborate explanation would be required.”
Gleanings, pp. 172-173

 

[ManSinha]

Bahais do not believe that Adam was the first man. We believe that Adam was the first Prophet in the Adamic Cycle of religion. Rethinking Adam

We believe that humans have existed for about 200,000 years and Prophets/Messengers have been sent to humans ever since humans evolved. As such, there were many cycles of religion before the Adamic Cycle of religion even though there are no records of them.

“And now regarding thy question, “How is it that no records are to be found concerning the Prophets that have preceded Adam, the Father of Mankind, or of the kings that lived in the days of those Prophets?” Know thou that the absence of any reference to them is no proof that they did not actually exist. That no records concerning them are now available, should be attributed to their extreme remoteness, as well as to the vast changes which the earth hath undergone since their time.

Moreover such forms and modes of writing as are now current amongst men were unknown to the generations that were before Adam. There was even a time when men were wholly ignorant of the art of writing, and had adopted a system entirely different from the one which they now use. For a proper exposition of this an elaborate explanation would be required.”
Gleanings, pp. 172-173

And that - right there - is the essence of it - whatever you want to believe - even if it is make believe - continue living in your little delusion.

According to modern science humans have existed for between 300000 to 2100000 years - so there goes another Baha'i belief by the wayside

 

[Trailblazer]

According to modern science humans have existed for between 300000 to 2100000 years - so there goes another Baha'i belief by the wayside

I looked it up rather quickly and the website said 200,000, so that does not change anything about Baha'i beliefs.
Nice try though...

 

[ManSinha]

I looked it up rather quickly and the website said 200,000, so that does not change anything about Baha'i beliefs.
Nice try though...

Obviously your web searching techniques are on on par with your ability to look outside your beliefs - stop being smug and condescending - you have nothing but a misplaced belief in discredited facts

National Geographic

The Atlantic

World Atlas

 

[InChrist]

I agree. I think that there will need to be a world economic unity after this virus to prevent each nation from completely collapsing. People will need to agree to any worldwide solution otherwise it can’t happen. I don’t think we will go back to exactly the way it was before this virus hit.

Bill Gates is working on the worldwide solution for everyone...


Microsoft, the ID2020 Alliance, universal digital identification and you

 

[Trailblazer]

Obviously your web searching techniques are on on par with your ability to look outside your beliefs - stop being smug and condescending - you have nothing but a misplaced belief in discredited facts

No, there is nothing wrong with my web searching techniques, I just did not have time to do a thorough search and it was not necessary for that post. After all, it was it a treatise on how long humans have existed.

Who is being condescending?
Psychological projection

 

[ManSinha]

No, there is nothing wrong with my web searching techniques, I just did not have time to do a thorough search and it was not necessary for that post. After all, it was it a treatise on how long humans have existed.

You were being condescending with a cursory web search - you have always been condescending to the positions of others while touting your messenger - IF (rules permitting) I could bring in posts from other threads you participate in - I'd show you your condescending behavior over and over not to speak of smug misplaced arrogance. I questioned your assertions and said they were incorrect. You did by your own admission "a cursory web search" - and tried to tell me I was mistaken (incorrectly so) and now you are transferring your emotional reaction to me. As far as I am concerned you have nothing but religious falsehoods - at times backed up by prosaic gobbledegook that you dish out in your sly attempts at proselytization.

I provided links from authentic sources to show that you and your religious beliefs are wrong. And all you do is accuse me of Psychological Projection? Really @Trailblazer - is that the best you can do? Change the topic and hope that the other person will go away?

Does anyone quote from their religious texts in ordinary discussions as much as you do? Insecure much? or do not really believe the nonsense you would profess others to read and trying to make yourself believe in it by quoting it so much?

 

[CG Didymus]

This time I am speechless and have nothing to say. This ‘gathering speaks for itself’.

What a time we are living in full of hope and promise. Love and peace to all my human brothers and sisters.

What's good about you is that you always find something positive. Some people are coming together. Some people do put their prejudicial religious beliefs behind and see the good in all. So thanks for not making this all about the "Baha'is". People, all sorts of people, are coming together.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

And that - right there - is the essence of it - whatever you want to believe - even if it is make believe - continue living in your little delusion.

According to modern science humans have existed for between 300000 to 2100000 years - so there goes another Baha'i belief by the wayside

Just for your info there has been no time limit set, Baha'u'llah says civilisation on earth is very ancient. It also is written the records of Many have been lost.

Whatever science finds in relation is sound.

Regards Tony

 

[Trailblazer]

So thanks for not making this all about the "Baha'is". People, all sorts of people, are coming together.

No, it is not about the Baha'is, it is simply what Baha'ullah envisioned over 150 years ago finally coming to pass.

 

[Trailblazer]

Some people are coming together. Some people do put their prejudicial religious beliefs behind and see the good in all.

For example, an agnostic poster on another forum told me that the Muslims were delivering food to him and other people where he lives. He was very surprised by that but pleased.