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Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by loverofhumanity, Apr 4, 2020.

  1. loverofhumanity

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    This time I am speechless and have nothing to say. This ‘gathering speaks for itself’.

    What a time we are living in full of hope and promise. Love and peace to all my human brothers and sisters.


     
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  2. ChristineM

    ChristineM "Be strong" I whispered to my coffee.
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    Tell it to the world leaders
     
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    Humanity is beautiful. Being home bound it’s just like the beautiful people to get creative and still get together in beautiful ways unimagined before. Nothing can stop us being united, not any war or any virus. We are humanity and will always overcome any obstacles.

    We only need to build on this unity and make it worldwide and permanent.world peace and unity can not be stopped because we are all connected. We are all one.

    This is a wonderful breather away from the doom and gloom and offers a glimpse of hope and confidence that we will always overcome whatever obstacles we may face.
     
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    When we want unity bad enough they’ll listen or be replaced.
     
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    In our writings it says..

    peace must first be established among individuals, until it leadeth in the end to peace among nations.
     
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    Since the 1200s, political unity has generally followed on the heels of economic unity. Globalization is, of course, economic unity by a fancy name. If it continues, we are most likely to see some kind of worldwide or nearly worldwide political unity by the end of the century. Again, that has been the pattern since around 1200 AD.
     
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    That's an interesting point, but I don't know if it is supported by history. However, there is some historical support for the notion that economic unity must first be established among individuals, then -- in some circumstances (and only in some circumstances) -- one gets peace between them. Of course, what too often happens is that some politician, pundit, or preacher decides he can rise to power by pitting one group against another, as Mr. Trump does.
     
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    I agree. I think that there will need to be a world economic unity after this virus to prevent each nation from completely collapsing. People will need to agree to any worldwide solution otherwise it can’t happen. I don’t think we will go back to exactly the way it was before this virus hit.
     
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    Very good point. We are so interconnected now economically we basically need each other to survive. And we are going to need each other even more once this virus is over. There is one Savior and that is to dissolve all nations war and military budgets. But that would require world peace so the world may be forced into world peace for its economical survival.
     
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    Yes, but we must still beware the leaders that would divide us.
     
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    Is that your dictate?

    It is a wonderful pipedream and yes, a pipedream of mine too, but there is too much distrust between nations, religions and races for it to happen in the near future.

    And at the moment political will is more focussed on national economy, even at the expense of other nations. When the profit motive is removed then there is a stepping stone in the right direction.
     
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    There is a long way to go I agree especially in educating humanity not to have prejudices between races, religions and nations but for the moment the economic situation may force a political ,unity and later once that is achieved it will be in the interests of all to educate the masses to accept all humanity as equals regardless of belief and race. But it will take a long time to get universal brotherhood I agree.
     
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    i can't see it your idea of the economic situation, the current crisis is showing politicians double down in the name of national unity.
     
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    Yes it would be better and the crisis dissipated long ago I believe if the world got together on this one.
     
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    I'm afraid it all down to numbers (Tipping Point perhaps?). There are plenty around who will always feel the need to show their unity and empathy/sympathy/behaviour to make things better - for current circumstances and the future - but, as some have stated, there are more than enough things tearing us apart and over which we have little effect. I think it requires us to demolish many of these if we are ever to get close to world unity - things such as nationalism, differences in religious beliefs, differences in expectations (rich versus poor), and differences in political attitudes. This crisis is just a blip in the march of time, not some marker for some great change, in my opinion.
     
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    I doubt it, most governments are more interested in self promotion and bull to molify gullible voters than beating the virus. I don't see it changing if politics were global
     
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    I'd like to see it go the other way. We are too interconnected.

    'World unity' is impossible as diversity is a natural aspect of human social evolution, and so attempts to achieve it are actively harmful and counterproductive. We don't need unity, just peaceful coexistence, and trying to force everyone into some kind of common unit breeds resentment.

    Just like how many people get on far better with their families when they don't live in the same house, it's much easier to live and let live when the beliefs of others aren't in competition with your own beliefs.

    What the current crisis has shown is the fragility of the highly optimised global supply chain. Optimisation is terrible in times of crisis as there is no inbuilt redundancy in the system.

    We see it with masks now, but it could happen with food in the future.

    Countries should identify a range of core necessities and aim to control their supply of these; plan for a worst case scenario, don't optimise for normality.

    It also benefits the local economy, with fewer jobs being offshored. I doubt it will happen though as people lack the will to 'overpay' for these 'inefficient' methods when times are good, and simply assume the worst case will never happen.

    This is not to advocate for autarky, just a far more localised system complemented by global trade in non-essentials.
     
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    That is the way it is now, but there is no reason to think it will always be the case.

    Just think of all that has happened in the world in a few short months. I see unity between nations coming, but it will not be in the "near" future.

    “God’s purpose is none other than to usher in, in ways He alone can bring about, and the full significance of which He alone can fathom, the Great, the Golden Age of a long-divided, a long-afflicted humanity. Its present state, indeed even its immediate future, is dark, distressingly dark. Its distant future, however, is radiant, gloriously radiant—so radiant that no eye can visualize it......”
    The Promised Day is Come, p. 116


    Although I believe that God has ushered it in, I do not believe that God is going to build the new world order where unity and peace are permanently established. I believe that is the job that humans have been entrusted to accomplish, and it does not matter if they are believers or nonbelievers or what religion they belong to. In fact, the whole idea is that we can work together in harmony regardless of our differences.
     
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    That is an interesting perspective but I think we can have unity and still retain our individuality. It is really a matter of allowing others to be as they are and accepting them regardless of differences. I would even go so far as to say that we should appreciate their differences and see them as beautiful.

    BEAUTY AND HARMONY IN DIVERSITY

    If that is true for individuals, why can't that be true for nations?
     
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