I don't believe so. I believe Noahidism is too bound to Judaism to be really meaningful in any other context.
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How many nuns could a nunchuck chuck if a nunchuck could chuck nuns?
Cool. I heard a couple of months ago that he's about to release a halachic book for Noahides.
A nunchuk is an inanimate object. It throws nothing.
So you feel that adhering to the seven 'Noahide laws" is insufficient grounds for being considered Noahide?
I've heard The Divine Code is quite good, but I have yet to buy it. As all this stuff is quite new and many Rabbis are clueless, I take a lot of with some scepticism. Maybe I shouldn't, but there's a lot of debate around Noahidism and such.
I believe one can attain Heaven for following them on moral grounds, I wouldn't begrudge anyone that at all. I just am of the view that if one is looking for spiritual fulfillment, yes, it's going to take more than that. Most decent people should be following a similar set of ethics, but imo it doesn't mean they are close to whichever God or gods they worship.
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But isn't one of the commandments to believe in Hashem? Meaning, it's not what you'd normally consider a 'moral law'?
Yes, but that good people can enter the world to come is mainstream belief as far as I know. There are The Wise of the Nations and the Pious of the Nations; the first follows the code out of it being sensible and the second because it is given by G-d. To me, this means the first group can attain a degree of heaven.
Alea iacta est
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Why?
A more serious question, which country (state if applicable) do you live in? I'm a Swede who lives in Japan so being a Noachide here is really lonely. If I had lived in Tokyo (or Kobe) then I could go to any of the Jewish communities there.
A more serious question, which country (state if applicable) do you live in? I'm a Swede who lives in Japan so being a Noachide here is really lonely. If I had lived in Tokyo (or Kobe) then I could go to any of the Jewish communities there.
OK but, with respect, you did not answer the question -- which is, of course, your choice.
Britain.
Well, the question from my worldview doesn't make much sense as everyone non-Jewish is born a Noahide. If you mean, does following those alone by a professed Noahide make one such, then yes, it does and I wouldn't try to place more burden on them.
@Rival, you seem to be making this harder than it is.
I did not ask about the status of a non-Jew at birth. Nor did I ask about the status of a "professed Noahide." I simply asked ...
Why is this not a yes/no question?
Because your starter questioned referenced those following other religions and I became confused if you were asking this as a follow up. Of course following the Noahide Code makes one a Noahide, but in my view, if one also professes to be a Buddhist or whatnot, one is not a Noahide.
Yes, following the Noachide Code makes one a Noahide as long as one does not follow another faith.
Would that person be considered a sinful Noahide, if all gentiles are born Noahides?
I would consider that person an idolater or practicing schituf.
Thanks. So a Noahide is a Noahide who is not also something else, e.g., Deist, Baha'i, Buddhist, Muslim, Sikh, etc. Do you know of any scriptural basis for your caveat, or is it simply your definition?
Yes, that is my belief, and yes it is my take based on Orthodox teachings. There is, I will add, disagreement between who is a Noachide within those teachings so I will stress that this is my take and others are free to hold another opinion and I won't argue with them.
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