lostwanderingsoul
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Actually I am happy thinking God says what He means and means what He says.Think in terms of metaphor. You’ll be much happier.
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Actually I am happy thinking God says what He means and means what He says.Think in terms of metaphor. You’ll be much happier.
No, the question is why does God give this power to SOME people and not all? And if He gives the power to BECOME His sons then we are NOT automatically His sons just because He formed us form dust. And I would say to recieve him means more than just saying "Oh, God made me so I am his son". What does it mean to you? Please be kind enough to enlighten those of us who may not know.And what does it mean to “receive God?” (Hint: it means more than “getting saved.”)
We probably have nothing to discuss. You're a biblical literalist. That fantasy just isn't in my wheelhouse.Actually I am happy thinking God says what He means and means what He says.
That's not what it says though. It says that Jesus gives this power to as many as receive him. Again: one has to interpret what it means to "receive" Jesus.No, the question is why does God give this power to SOME people and not all? And if He gives the power to BECOME His sons then we are NOT automatically His sons just because He formed us form dust. And I would say to recieve him means more than just saying "Oh, God made me so I am his son". What does it mean to you? Please be kind enough to enlighten those of us who may not know.
We also have to interpret what it means to be "born of God."No, the question is why does God give this power to SOME people and not all? And if He gives the power to BECOME His sons then we are NOT automatically His sons just because He formed us form dust. And I would say to recieve him means more than just saying "Oh, God made me so I am his son". What does it mean to you? Please be kind enough to enlighten those of us who may not know.
I would truly like to hear reality if you know it.
Ooh. How insulting.
Yup. He hates my guts.
Too bad some Athletes get all riled up, and show their anger , whenever their religion come under fire, or someone disagree with their accepted view.
Yup. Your philosophies are religious beliefs.
So we see fully formed complex organisms of all life-forms basically
, just appear on the scene, and they remain the same till now - never changing
, and we have evidence of intelligent agents carrying out tasks, with an intelligent mind communicating information into planning.
Manufacturing various vehicles from the same materials, and with similar design features, doesn't say much, other than they had been designed with a similar plan, and by similar minds.
Yes the evidence is indeed overwhelmingly in favor of creation.
YES!! All theological language is metaphoric, because that’s the only way we can grasp the concepts in language. The character “God” in the Bible is a metaphor.
For my money, any time someone talks religion, Divinity, spirituality, they’re talking in metaphor. They may not think they are; but I believe they are. God is too vast for us to wrap our minds completely around.
Well... ok. Theology doesn’t move as quickly as science, because human metaphor and mythic conceptualizations don’t change so quickly; they’re a little more “burned in” to our psyche. But let me run these past you as food for thought.
For the first time, humanity is faced with the reality that we have the power, through nuclear weapons, to completely destroy ourselves. We are also beginning to face a very real possibility that we’ve exploited the planet beyond its capability to recover. Those things are existential and fundamental game-changers for us as a species. An ecological theology helps us to reframe the world and our understanding of it in ways that allow us to see it as a fellow creature to be honored and with which to build an interdependent relationship, rather than something unrelated to us that we can just exploit.
Actually I am happy thinking God says what He means and means what He says.
Poetry and metaphor are two different things. But I’m frankly surprised. You’re a percussionist — an artist. I guess that has no bearing on your reality?In that case, all this is meaningless to me.
Poetic stuff that has little to no bearing on reality at all.
I highly disagree, because the whole aim of theology is to make meaning.The point of it, is that it doesn't move at all.
And IF it comes up with something new, it really is just a repackaging of the same (metaphoric) nonsense it already had. It adds nothing at all to our collective knowledge and it is entirely useless because of it.
You could erase all of theology overnight and we wouldn't be missing out on anything meaningfull
I give up.That makes no sense to me at all.
Exactly the answer one would expect from a person with no religion. People with religion have it figured out.If there is a god that is what we'd expect.
Now if anyone could just figure out what the heck
"he" means, we'd be set!
I disagree.Exactly the answer one would expect from a person with no religion. People with religion have it figured out.
Exactly the answer one would expect from a person with no religion. People with religion have it figured out.
I find that many Christians don't want to go to the effort or cost of searching -- they want to automatically "find" -- like magic.Oh they do? Then why, may we not so humbly ask
has hardly any two figured out the same things?
Most of the people in the world "with religion" dont
believe any of the Christian stuff any more than I do.
So sorry-ah, but I find your response to be a fail.
(exactly, of course, as is to be expected )
As do I.I disagree.
What you call"religion" is not always right.Oh they do? Then why, may we not so humbly ask
has hardly any two figured out the same things?
Most of the people in the world "with religion" dont
believe any of the Christian stuff any more than I do.
So sorry-ah, but I find your response to be a fail.
(exactly, of course, as is to be expected )
I am afraid God does not have a cost. He gives freely to those He chooses.I find that many Christians don't want to go to the effort or cost of searching -- they want to automatically "find" -- like magic.