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Trump is insane

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't think he is insane.

His real problem seems to be associated with that swelling on his neck. I know I am not the only one to notice it. Surely. It has this weird orange color and goofing looking hair.
I wonder if they really mean "insanity" in a clinical sense,
or if it's just an insulting way of describing his scatter
brained conduct....or if it's just fun to believe that he's
really insane, & so it becomes their reality.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
Pieces of dubious evidence being numerous doesn't bestow cromulence.
I wonder about the left's obsession with things so questionable & not even
realized (eg, nuking storms), when there are issues of substance which get
so little attention, eg, almost starting a war with Iran.
Maybe it is the ridiculous nature of such items that draw so much attention. You have a point though. Nuking hurricanes would never materialize, but a war with Iran could.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
I wonder if they really mean "insanity" in a clinical sense,
or if it's just an insulting way of describing his scatter
brained conduct....or if it's just fun to believe that he's
really insane, & so it becomes their reality.
He may be insane, but I have no idea. Scattered brained. Sure. That often evokes claims of "You're insane".

It would not be the first time that colloquial phrasing has been equated with technical meaning.

It is no secret what I think of our president, but his insanity would have to be established by more than just rumors flying around the internet. He could just be stupid.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
I wonder if they really mean "insanity" in a clinical sense,
or if it's just an insulting way of describing his scatter
brained conduct....or if it's just fun to believe that he's
really insane, & so it becomes their reality.
I am more concerned about his leanings to authoritarianism than his sanity. Though, they may be related.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I am more concerned about his leanings to authoritarianism than his sanity. Though, they may be related.
A good thing about our system is that the President's power
is limited. His authoritarian bent is reined in by the system.
But he does have the power to wage war.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
A good thing about our system is that the President's power
is limited. His authoritarian bent is reined in by the system.
But he does have the power to wage war.
He does seem to operate under the impression he has greater authority and in some instances he seems to have found ways to get around those limitations.

War with Iran would be an entirely different animal compared to war with Iraq. I prefer diplomatic solutions and keeping our guys feet on the ground.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
He does seem to operate under the impression he has greater authority and in some instances he seems to have found ways to get around those limitations.
But how much of an actual threat does that pose?
War with Iran would be an entirely different animal compared to war with Iraq. I prefer diplomatic solutions and keeping our guys feet on the ground.
True dat.
And war is one thing for which he has unilateral authority.
This is the big risk to life & lucre.
But our problem is that both Dems & Pubs are to sanguine
about war. I keep hearing about how easy it would be to
win it, & how Iran deserves to be attacked.
 

Howard Is

Lucky Mud
Sure. But he also has a responsibility to more than just his self-aggrandising narcissism.

Meh all that means is he fits in with 99.9% of the rest of y'all in the world.

Look at that statement closely.

Nihilistic narcissism.

Nah I didn't say y'all should be nuked. :p

Global warming has the very real possibility of being responsible for the death of billions of people, not millions.

Death comes for all. There is no escape.

Are you a Poe ?
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
But how much of an actual threat does that pose?
So far, not much, but you have to watch these things so they do not take on a life.
True dat.
And war is one thing for which he has unilateral authority.
This is the big risk to life & lucre.
But our problem is that both Dems & Pubs are to sanguine
about war. I keep hearing about how easy it would be to
win it, & how Iran deserves to be attacked.
They have a real military and a substantial population to draw reserves from. It would not be over in a day with French lovelies throwing roses at the conquering heroes.

We would be up against a serious contender with their own arms industry. They may be one of the most hated nations on earth in some circles, but that does not mean an easy win.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
But how much of an actual threat does that pose?

True dat.
And war is one thing for which he has unilateral authority.
This is the big risk to life & lucre.
But our problem is that both Dems & Pubs are to sanguine
about war. I keep hearing about how easy it would be to
win it, & how Iran deserves to be attacked.
I cannot find any reason to be optimistic about a war with Iran. Look how much our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have cost and that was against enemies that were either undermanned with inexperienced soldiers, having limited advanced weapons or subsisting on primitive technologies.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So far, not much, but you have to watch these things so they do not take on a life.
Remember that there are 2 other branches of government, & a Constitution.
Btw, his USSC justice nominations don't appear to be friendly to fascism.
We've endured worse authoritarian flare ups, eg, the red scare, but recovered.
They have a real military and a substantial population to draw reserves from. It would not be over in a day with French lovelies throwing roses at the conquering heroes.
Try telling that to the hawks.
They tell me that our sophisticated weapons will crush them in days.
They will function as planned, Iran will behave as expected, & our
plans will unfold exactly as predicted...just like the Iraq war, which
we won so quickly, with the populace welcoming us as heroes, &
our leaving behind a stable democratic <snicker> government.
We would be up against a serious contender with their own arms industry. They may be one of the most hated nations on earth in some circles, but that does not mean an easy win.
One most hated nation against another, eh.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I cannot find any reason to be optimistic about a war with Iran. Look how much our wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have cost and that was against enemies that were either undermanned with inexperienced soldiers, having limited advanced weapons or subsisting on primitive technologies.
Do you mean to say that wars don't go according to plan?
And that history bears this out?
You'll never be elected President with that kind of attitude.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
Remember that there are 2 other branches of government, & a Constitution.
Btw, his USSC justice nominations don't appear to be friendly to fascism.
We've endured worse authoritarian flare ups, eg, the red scare, but recovered.
True. And some of this may be fueled by my general dislike of a cretinous bore. But we still have to be vigilant.

Try telling that to the hawks.
They tell me that our sophisticated weapons will crush them in days.
They will function as planned, Iran will behave as expected, & our
plans will unfold exactly as predicted...just like the Iraq war, which
we won so quickly, with the populace welcoming us as heroes, &
our leaving behind a stable democratic <snicker> government.
One most hated nation against another, eh.
That is not just overly optimistic, that is optimism on a different level that clashes with unrealistic. Certainly, we have some serious advantages, but days is a pipe dream.

I think we should abandon an active roll in keeping natural combatants hard put to each other. Even if it does promote our own interests. If they are going to fight it out, let them, unless they ask for help. Our interference has caused a much hardship for ourselves as it has for others.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
Do you mean to say that wars don't go according to plan?
And that history bears this out?
You'll never be elected President with that kind of attitude.
We have had some operations that went according to plan. At least overall. Historically, the Normandy invasion may be the best example of that, but yeah, history doesn't offer many examples of wars that were by the book and followed predicted outcomes to the letter.

I think there are other barriers to any presidential aspirations I may harbor, but I will ad pragmatist (or is it realist) to the list.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Trump LIES telling press he SKIPPED the climate meeting because he was meeting with India PM and Merkel. BOTH were in the climate MTG.

CNN’s Acosta busts Trump for blatantly lying about his reasons for skipping G7 climate summit

He did meet with Modi..... the same day. You are assuming the time that would have been spent at the summit overlapped the Modi meeting. Heard of prep?

Did you read your own source? A PR staff said it not Trump. Modi left the meeting to meet with Trump...
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
I've heard that sheep's bladders can be used to prevent earthquakes.
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
True. And some of this may be fueled by my general dislike of a cretinous bore. But we still have to be vigilant.
Vigilance is necessary whether Trump or anyone else is Prez.
All have attacked our civil liberties, including even St Obama.
Try as Trump might, I don't see our system crashing.
That is not just overly optimistic, that is optimism on a different level that clashes with unrealistic. Certainly, we have some serious advantages, but days is a pipe dream.
We also have some serious disadvantages, eg, a populace which might
tire of lengthy war, debilitating partisan bickering, enemies who might
back Iran, an economy which is fragile in the face of terrorism, leaders
who make really bad estimates of the risk.
That last one includes even St Kennedy, who very nearly ignited
thermonuclear war because of bad intelligence & bad planning.
But by dumb luck, he came out smelling like a rose. And this
now contributes to the false attitude that brinksmanship is safe.
I think we should abandon an active roll in keeping natural combatants hard put to each other. Even if it does promote our own interests. If they are going to fight it out, let them, unless they ask for help. Our interference has caused a much hardship for ourselves as it has for others.
I favor peaceful means for encouraging others to avoid war.
 

Dan From Smithville

Monsters! Monsters from the id! Forbidden Planet
Staff member
Premium Member
Vigilance is necessary whether Trump or anyone else is Prez.
All have attacked our civil liberties, including even St Obama.
Try as Trump might, I don't see our system crashing.
I did not mean to indicate we should only be vigilant when someone that we dislike is in office. It should be an ongoing process even when we are a supporter.
We also have some serious disadvantages, eg, a populace which might tire of lengthy war, enemies who might back Iran, an economy which is fragile in the face of terrorism, leaders who make really bad estimates of the risk...& that last one includes even St Kennedy, who very nearly ignited thermonuclear war because of bad intelligence & bad planning. By mere dumb luck, he came out smelling like a rose..
Those are some of the disadvantages that come to mind, though it hadn't yet occurred to me to consider the susceptibility of our economy to terrorism, but we have a very real example of that to go. Strange that I missed that.
I favor peaceful means for encouraging others to avoid war.
I do to.
 
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