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Does anyone believe in Evolution anymore?

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

Only people who comprehend how the scientific method works and have taken the time to study the mountains of verifiable evidence that supports the theory.
 

Milton Platt

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

Simply not true I assume you just wanted a click-bait heading???
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

This survey directly contradicts your opinion. In fact it show that the belief that God created man in his present form has been on the decline, not the belief in evolution:

Evolution, Creationism, Intelligent Design
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today


It's a bit vague

Everyone believes in some type of survival of the fittiest and adaptation
but Darwinism?

While some do, the case is getting weaker and weaker
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution.

Wrong.

In U.S., Belief in Creationist View of Humans at New Low

Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Mostly wrong. One single cell, not species. And that cell probably existed in a community of other cells...

The idea that species started in separate strains was demonstrated mathematically to be highly unlikely...

All Species Evolved From Single Cell, Study Finds

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time.

Wrong. Argument from ignorance is useless. Also wrong because first reason given.

Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

Amazing every word of what you just said was wrong.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today
Only the ones with sufficient education to understand science, and know what the theory actually says. Those who think only one book in all the world has anything worthwhile to say will have no way to access that knowledge, and must therefore remain in blissful ignorance.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
It's a bit vague

Everyone believes in some type of survival of the fittiest and adaptation
but Darwinism?

While some do, the case is getting weaker and weaker
Completely and totally WRONG! The case is getting stronger and stronger as the data piles up without abatement. What you refuse to see, however, will remain invisible to you.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

Interesting fiction. Where did the idea come from?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today
Scientific theory just gets refined over the years as new information comes to light. It doesn't dismiss the established facts that have been discovered but rather reclassifies. Think of it as like what happened with Pluto as a planet. New information surfaces and there is a reclassification.

Anyways evolution is not Abogenesis. Something that people seem to be perpetually stuck on thinking even though there are plenty of reminders time and time again that the two are not the same.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

Based on overwhelming fossil evidence as well as genetic evidence...I don't believe, but accept as fact, there's been a significant enough gene pool alteration within a species changing over the course of many generations resulting in organisms having genetic traits different enough from their distant ancestors; so that there'd be no possible sexual reproduction occurring between somebody who were to have distant ancestral genetic traits with anybody living in the current population. There's little doubt all life forms share a common ancestor; so then, evolution is about as debatable as the Earth's ellipsoid shape.

ERVs provide the closest thing to a mathematical proof for evolution.. ERVs are the relics of ancient viral infections preserved in our DNA. The odd thing is many ERVs are located in exactly the same position on our genome and the chimpanzee genome! There are two explanations for the perfectly matched ERV locations. Either it is an unbelievable coincidence that viruses just by chance were inserted in exactly the same location in our genomes, or humans and chimps share a common ancestor. The chances that a virus was inserted at the exact same location is 1 in 3,000,000,000. Humans and chimps share 7 instances of viruses inserted at perfectly matched location. It was our common ancestor that was infected, and we both inherited the ERVs.

Johnson, Welkin E.; Coffin, John M. (1999-08-31). "Constructing primate phylogenies from ancient retrovirus sequences". Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 96(18): 10254–10260. Bibcode:1999PNAS...9610254J. doi:10.1073/pnas.96.18.10254. ISSN 0027-8424. PMC 17875. PMID 10468595

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Neutral Name

Active Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

Ok, so, you are obviously a Christian. I do believe in evolution but I also believe in science. I have read of many entities which can reproduce and change. They are not always even organisms but lower forms of existence. It is hard to say where God created and where something created something. I don't even want to say life created life because sometimes I'm not sure that they could even be considered life, just entities and sometimes those entities change. What is what? I do believe that it took God to create the beginning of life but not necessarily to stay with entities and organisms once they were created. God may have had some input but that doesn't mean that God was involved in all creations. We do know that man creates things. So, why would it be such a stretch to think that God allows other things to create?
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

And God commanded the seas to bring forth life.
Genesis 1.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
It's a bit vague

Everyone believes in some type of survival of the fittiest and adaptation
but Darwinism?

While some do, the case is getting weaker and weaker

Darwinism? Not today. No, the case is getting stronger with time, and in contemporary science the science of evolution is falsified far beyond any reasonable doubt, and the evidence is increasing all the time.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species.
Nothing except the evidence of geology, zoology, fossils, genetics and more daily confirming the status of evolution as the overarching theory of biology.

I gather you haven't noticed any of that. Why don't you go to Wikipedia's intro on evolution and begin to catch up with the actual science?
How could the universe just appear out of nothing
Who says it appeared out of nothing? Big Bang theory simply says that the universe apparently began with a singularity, and if that's right then on the present state of our knowledge it's not possible for us to obtain any information prior to then. (Whether 'prior to then' is a meaningful phrase is also debated.)
and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should,
In what sense can the universe be said to be spinning?

In what sense can it be said to be spinning 'at all different tangents'?
or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time.
The universe looks like it's about 14 bn years old. In what relevant sense is 14 bn years 'a short time'?
Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today
Science constantly seeks facts, and argues honestly and transparently from evidence to conclusion. As further facts are discovered, various hypotheses are devised to account for them, and tested, sometimes successfully, sometimes not ─ but all out in the open.

That's how all science works, not just cosmology. That's how the theory of evolution is confirmed, reviewed and added to.

So what specific aspect of cosmology are you complaining about here? Give us some of the recent examples you have in mind.


And while you're here, how in your view did the universe in fact came into being? Please outline the evidence, the causes and the process for us.

And how you think life on earth came into being? Again, please outline the evidence, the causes and the process.

And how you think the millions of species of living things presently on, above and under the earth, came and come into being. Again, please outline the evidence, the causes and the process.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
Darwinism? Not today. No, the case is getting stronger with time, and in contemporary science the science of evolution is falsified far beyond any reasonable doubt, and the evidence is increasing all the time.

You know, we use Darwinian selection in computers. I understand that the Rolls Royce jet engines
on Airbus planes were designed using Darwin's principles, ie model numerous iterations of a turbine
blade. Then select the best ones and iterate these further with variations of the design.
With as few as 50 switches we can create a computer chip that can voice activate a switch - the
chip figured out a way to do this all by itself - something no human could do with 50 switches.
 

74x12

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today
Too many people still drink the kool aide unfortunately.
 

PruePhillip

Well-Known Member
It's a bit vague

Everyone believes in some type of survival of the fittiest and adaptation
but Darwinism?

While some do, the case is getting weaker and weaker

The following animals were not known just twenty years ago.
Early birds, early snakes and early whales.

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dfnj

Well-Known Member
It seems that the more we learn as scientific and archaeological finds come to light, the less people believe in Evolution. Scientist and Darwinism tell us that life on earth evolved gradually beginning with one primitive species, their not really sure how, and it made new and diverse species. But yet there are no not one piece of evidence found of a gradual change from a "self-replicating molecule" to all the different species. There are no evidence of gradualism or that later species should have traits that make them look like the descendants of earlier ones. We don't find a fish changing to land crawler or a lizard changing to bird, there nothing that would show the lineage of any species.

Evolution along with the 'Big Bang' idea are losing the people as more evidence comes to light. How could the universe just appear out of nothing, and be spinning in all different tangents rather than one way as they should, or the universe be larger than we can even chart in such a short time. Scientist scramble to come up with another way or adjustment to the theory. but the more they try, the more convoluted it becomes. Many of these ideas of man are being discovered to be unsupported, or no longer seem to have any validity with people today

If you ever studied biology it's obviously true. Fish have two eyes. We have two eyes. Fish have two nostrils. We have two nostrils. Fish have a spine. We have a spine. Fish have a mouth and a poop hole. We have a mouth and a poop hole. It goes on and on...
 
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