Everyone Who Claims Homosexuality is a Sin is Bisexual

[Rational Agnostic]

Everyone who claims homosexuality is a sin must necessarily be bisexual. Here is why.

According to the traditional definitions of sin, sin must always involve a choice. Thus, the claim that attraction to the same sex is sinful implies that attraction to the same sex is a choice. But no one chooses who they are sexually attracted to. Nevertheless, people who are bisexual can choose to ignore one aspect of their sexuality, so that they can have the illusion of choice. This is why we see so many bisexual people claim to have "found Jesus," and "repent" of their homosexuality, and make the "choice" to be heterosexual. In reality, they are simply choosing to ignore the homosexual aspect of their sexuality and choose to only focus on the heterosexual aspect.

For people who are either 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual, sexual orientation is not a choice. For instance, I could not choose to be attracted to men, even if I wanted to be. In the same way, a homosexual person could not choose to be attracted to the other gender if they wanted to be. A person who is 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual would understand this, which begs the question, why do so many Christians, especially pastors, claim that homosexuality is a choice? I think that the only logical answer is that bisexuality is fairly commonplace in the population, and likely even more common among Christian pastors.

So, since our conclusion implies bisexuality is likely much more common in Christian pastors than in the rest of the population, we should encourage these pastors to celebrate their bisexuality, rather than trying to mask it in homophobic preaching. A study has already confirmed that homophobic men who claim to be heterosexual have measurable responses of arousal to gay porn, while non-homophobic heterosexual men do not. See this study, which verifies my ideas. Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? - PubMed - NCBI

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Seems kinda contrived and overwrought.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Maybe they are just *** holes and bigots

 

[Brickjectivity]

I would rephrase it as "Anyone who preaches that homosexuality is a choice..." I would avoid the nose punch conclusion that pastors are more bisexual than the general population.

 

[David T]

Everyone who claims homosexuality is a sin must necessarily be bisexual. Here is why.

According to the traditional definitions of sin, sin must always involve a choice. Thus, the claim that attraction to the same sex is sinful implies that attraction to the same sex is a choice. But no one chooses who they are sexually attracted to. Nevertheless, people who are bisexual can choose to ignore one aspect of their sexuality, so that they can have the illusion of choice. This is why we see so many bisexual people claim to have "found Jesus," and "repent" of their homosexuality, and make the "choice" to be heterosexual. In reality, they are simply choosing to ignore the homosexual aspect of their sexuality and choose to only focus on the heterosexual aspect.

For people who are either 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual, sexual orientation is not a choice. For instance, I could not choose to be attracted to men, even if I wanted to be. In the same way, a homosexual person could not choose to be attracted to the other gender if they wanted to be. A person who is 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual would understand this, which begs the question, why do so many Christians, especially pastors, claim that homosexuality is a choice? I think that the only logical answer is that bisexuality is fairly commonplace in the population, and likely even more common among Christian pastors.

So, since our conclusion implies bisexuality is likely much more common in Christian pastors than in the rest of the population, we should encourage these pastors to celebrate their bisexuality, rather than trying to mask it in homophobic preaching. A study has already confirmed that homophobic men who claim to be heterosexual have measurable responses of arousal to gay porn, while non-homophobic heterosexual men do not. See this study, which verifies my ideas. Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? - PubMed - NCBI

Actually its self evident except to bisexuals!!!

I have zero idea about sexual choice. I am stuck being hetro sexual and most certainly not by choice.

 

[David T]

I would rephrase it as "Anyone who preaches that homosexuality is a choice..." I would avoid the nose punch conclusion that pastors are more bisexual than the general population.

Hetrosexuality singular isnt a choice. Only bisexuals understand sexuality as choice. Its wierd for many of us." not that there is anything wrong with that" but wierd none the less. So When a preacher starts in on sexuality as a choice well thats only a bisexual perspective is all. Wierd, but apparently popular!!!

 

[David T]

Maybe they are just *** holes and bigots

Nope bisexual... Which can be biggots and a* *holes just like hetrosexual and homosexual individuals. A$$holeness is completely independent of ones sexuality.

The possible last option they are completely clueless off in lala land but then who cares what they say about EVERYTHING starting with the bible.

 

[Skwim]

Everyone who claims homosexuality is a sin must necessarily be bisexual. Here is why.

According to the traditional definitions of sin, sin must always involve a choice. Thus, the claim that attraction to the same sex is sinful implies that attraction to the same sex is a choice. But no one chooses who they are sexually attracted to. Nevertheless, people who are bisexual can choose to ignore one aspect of their sexuality, so that they can have the illusion of choice. This is why we see so many bisexual people claim to have "found Jesus," and "repent" of their homosexuality, and make the "choice" to be heterosexual. In reality, they are simply choosing to ignore the homosexual aspect of their sexuality and choose to only focus on the heterosexual aspect.

For people who are either 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual, sexual orientation is not a choice. For instance, I could not choose to be attracted to men, even if I wanted to be. In the same way, a homosexual person could not choose to be attracted to the other gender if they wanted to be. A person who is 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual would understand this, which begs the question, why do so many Christians, especially pastors, claim that homosexuality is a choice? I think that the only logical answer is that bisexuality is fairly commonplace in the population, and likely even more common among Christian pastors.

So, since our conclusion implies bisexuality is likely much more common in Christian pastors than in the rest of the population, we should encourage these pastors to celebrate their bisexuality, rather than trying to mask it in homophobic preaching. A study has already confirmed that homophobic men who claim to be heterosexual have measurable responses of arousal to gay porn, while non-homophobic heterosexual men do not. See this study, which verifies my ideas. Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? - PubMed - NCBI

Just to be clear here, the Bible doesn't consider homosexual attraction or orientation to be sinful, only acting upon that attraction: engaging in homosexual activities.

My question is, if being sexually attracted to someone of the same sex is not a sin, why should the mere act of touching pee pees send god into such a tizzy that he consigns two people to hell? Just what is it about making the merest physical contact with someone of the same sex to whom one is sexually attracted to so godawful abhorrent? Where does the innate wrongness reside?

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[SomeRandom]

I do think virulent homophobia belies various things about such people. Self loathing perhaps. Shame. Insecurity maybe.

Though anyone who claims its a choice does cause me to raise an eyebrow. I mean bisexuals can choose, I suppose. Anyone else, not so much.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I would rephrase it as "Anyone who preaches that homosexuality is a choice..." I would avoid the nose punch conclusion that pastors are more bisexual than the general population.

Only a person who believes bisexuality is something to be ashamed of would call the conclusion a "nose punch."

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Seems kinda contrived and overwrought.

I don't think it's contrived and overwrought at all. In fact, to extend this principle further, nearly all of the pastors and fundamentalist Christian men I know are much less masculine than less religious men. There is nothing wrong with this of course, but they often perform a lot of pseudo-masculine posturing and even bigotry to try to compensate for this. It would be much better if they just accepted who they are and embraced it.

 

[dianaiad]

Everyone who claims homosexuality is a sin must necessarily be bisexual. Here is why.

According to the traditional definitions of sin, sin must always involve a choice. Thus, the claim that attraction to the same sex is sinful implies that attraction to the same sex is a choice. But no one chooses who they are sexually attracted to. Nevertheless, people who are bisexual can choose to ignore one aspect of their sexuality, so that they can have the illusion of choice. This is why we see so many bisexual people claim to have "found Jesus," and "repent" of their homosexuality, and make the "choice" to be heterosexual. In reality, they are simply choosing to ignore the homosexual aspect of their sexuality and choose to only focus on the heterosexual aspect.

For people who are either 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual, sexual orientation is not a choice. For instance, I could not choose to be attracted to men, even if I wanted to be. In the same way, a homosexual person could not choose to be attracted to the other gender if they wanted to be. A person who is 100% heterosexual or 100% homosexual would understand this, which begs the question, why do so many Christians, especially pastors, claim that homosexuality is a choice? I think that the only logical answer is that bisexuality is fairly commonplace in the population, and likely even more common among Christian pastors.

So, since our conclusion implies bisexuality is likely much more common in Christian pastors than in the rest of the population, we should encourage these pastors to celebrate their bisexuality, rather than trying to mask it in homophobic preaching. A study has already confirmed that homophobic men who claim to be heterosexual have measurable responses of arousal to gay porn, while non-homophobic heterosexual men do not. See this study, which verifies my ideas. Is homophobia associated with homosexual arousal? - PubMed - NCBI

Most of us are quite aware that being homosexual is not sinful any more than being heterosexual is. The sin lies, not in who one is attracted to, but what one does about it.

If the belief system says that sex outside marriage bonds is sinful, then homosexual sex outside marriage bonds is sinful. No more, and no less, than heterosexual sex outside marriage bonds is sinful. If your belief system accepts homosexual marriage, then the same rules apply to homosexuals as to heterosexuals. Sex outside marriage bonds is sinful.

If your belief system does not accept homosexual marriage, then...well, sex outside marriage bonds is sinful. It's very hard on the homosexual, but that IS a choice.

Unless you want to claim that homosexual desires are so much stronger than heterosexual ones, that it is impossible to resist having sex with someone you are attracted to, if that someone is the same sex you are? I do hope you aren't suggesting that. I don't know any gay person who would agree with that, personally. Gay people are not less moral, less ethical, or more compelled to have sex than straight people, after all, are they?

No...perhaps one is not in charge of who one is attracted to.

But we ARE in complete charge of what we do about it.

 

[Kenny]

Just to be clear here, the Bible doesn't consider homosexual attraction or orientation to be sinful, only acting upon that attraction: engaging in homosexual activities.

My question is, if being sexually attracted to someone of the same sex is not a sin, why should the mere act of touching pee pees send god into such a tizzy that he consigns them to hell? Just what is it about making the merest physical contact with someone of the same sex to whom one is sexually attracted to so godawful abhorrent? Where does the innate wrongness reside?

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My question, if desiring the rob a bank is not a sin, does that mean that when I rob it there is no innate wrongness?

 

[Kenny]

. But no one chooses who they are sexually attracted to. I

I think someone forgot to tell that to Sy Rogers what was a homosexual and now isn't, happily married and moving forward with his faith.


Sy Rogers | Ex-gayTruth.com

I think that the only logical answer is that bisexuality is fairly commonplace in the population, and likely even more common among Christian pastors.

I think you are getting two terms mixed up. Bisexuality and bisexual attraction. Very different. And why "More common among Christian pastors?" Are you saying that Christian pastors are different from the general population? hmmmm... Christophobia?

 

[SugarOcean]

Has anyone found in that "study" in the OP where the author states, everyone who claims homosexuality is a sin is bisexual?
Confirmation bias, as this "study" demonstrates in itself, does not mean Christians are bisexual. Because Christianity in the NT and Judaism's OT state that homosexuality and even Transgender, (a man that dresses as a woman is an abomination), are sins. In the OT those were sins worthy of death.
In the NT those were immoral sins, along with a list of other immoral sins that can be committed by straights, would not allow for that sinner to enter the kingdom of Heaven. No mention of killing the offender in the NT. I guess the authors figure, when someone dies in their sins that's eternal death that lasts long enough and beyond the usual recipe for sin correction; stoning.

Now, as to the other studies afforded a hypothesis and study as credited to the three authors credited in the OP article:
Mr. Adams. The effect of alcohol on the responses of sexually coercive and noncoercive men to an experimental rape analogue.

And for Mr. Wright: Dismantling simplified regulated breathing: a case of a bilingual stutterer.

And for BA Lohr: Auditory brainstem responses and auditory thresholds in woodpeckers.

Heterosexual Christians are safe.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Has anyone found in that "study" in the OP where the author states, everyone who claims homosexuality is a sin is bisexual?
Confirmation bias, as this "study" demonstrates in itself, does not mean Christians are bisexual. Because Christianity in the NT and Judaism's OT state that homosexuality and even Transgender, (a man that dresses as a woman is an abomination), are sins. In the OT those were sins worthy of death.
In the NT those were immoral sins, along with a list of other immoral sins that can be committed by straights, would not allow for that sinner to enter the kingdom of Heaven. No mention of killing the offender in the NT. I guess the authors figure, when someone dies in their sins that's eternal death that lasts long enough and beyond the usual recipe for sin correction; stoning.

Now, as to the other studies afforded a hypothesis and study as credited to the three authors credited in the OP article:
Mr. Adams. The effect of alcohol on the responses of sexually coercive and noncoercive men to an experimental rape analogue.

And for Mr. Wright: Dismantling simplified regulated breathing: a case of a bilingual stutterer.

And for BA Lohr: Auditory brainstem responses and auditory thresholds in woodpeckers.

Heterosexual Christians are safe.

Being a homosexual isn't called a sin anywhere in the Bible, and being transgender isn't "a man that dresses as a woman", nor is it even tangentially referred to anywhere in the Bible. Glad I could help you with that.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I think someone forgot to tell that to Sy Rogers what was a homosexual and now isn't, happily married and moving forward with his faith.


Sy Rogers | Ex-gayTruth.com



I think you are getting two terms mixed up. Bisexuality and bisexual attraction. Very different. And why "More common among Christian pastors?" Are you saying that Christian pastors are different from the general population? hmmmm... Christophobia?

The guy you allude to is almost certainly still attracted to men, but just chooses to ignore his homosexual urges. That's my point. And I'm not suggesting that Christian pastors more likely to be practicing bisexuals, I'm suggesting that they are more likely to be attracted to both genders, since they emphasize making a "choice" that would never even need to be made if they were heterosexual. The study I cited also confirms that homophobic men who claim to be straight are often not, compared to non-homophibic straight men.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Being a homosexual isn't called a sin anywhere in the Bible, and being transgender isn't "a man that dresses as a woman", nor is it even tangentially referred to anywhere in the Bible. Glad I could help you with that.

Technically, you're correct. It's called an abomination, but so is eating shellfish, so....

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Technically, you're correct. It's called an abomination, but so is eating shellfish, so....

Nope. Never says being homosexual is abomination, either. Nothing wrong with being homosexual, and anyone who tells you the Bible says anything different has either never read, or doesn't understand, it.

 

[Skwim]

My question, if desiring the rob a bank is not a sin, does that mean that when I rob it there is no innate wrongness?

No, because other's suffer because of your deed.

I think someone forgot to tell that to Sy Rogers what was a homosexual and now isn't, happily married and moving forward with his faith.
Sy Rogers | Ex-gayTruth.com

A bisexual who simply decided to try the other road. No biggie. It happens quite frequently, sometimes flip-flopping quite a few times in a bisexual's life.

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