esmith
Veteran Member
First I was not saying that all of the incidents were cause by the mentally ill, (however to do what they did indicates some form of mental problem don't you agree)The above is complete nonsense. Every country has its fair share of those that are mentally ill, and yet comparative homicide rates are MUCH higher here in the States than in any other industrialized country.
Secondly, for one to assume that all or even most of these homicides are caused by mentally ill patients goes against the fact that most of them do not have a record of such, plus there's the fact that most of us at one time or another will suffer at least some depression in our lives, plus also there's the simple fact that sometimes even the best of people can loose their tempers. All countries have such conditions, but why is the American rate so much higher than the other industrialized countries?
We have an estimated 300,000,000 guns in circulation in the U.S., which is almost 1 gun per man, woman, and child, so can you explain what all these guns in circulation is not making us a safer country as compared to Canada, Australia, Japan, and countries in western Europe?
At this point, common sense should tell you that you cannot be right on this, but it's clear that your love of your guns is far more important than common sense and people's lives. And polls now show that most Americans do not agree with you on this, thus believing that there are common sense measures that should be taken to reduce the carnage of not only mass murders but also day to day murders as well.
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Second you say that the homicide rates are much higher in the US than any other industrialized country. Depends on how you "cherry pick" your countries. In actuality according to https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/indicators/VC.IHR.PSRC.P5/rankings]Source[/url] the US ranks 83rd among all countries. But you said "industrialized countries". Are Russia, Mexico, Brazil, Greenland, Pakistan,and Argentina to name a few that have higher intentional homicide rates than the U.S.
To the rest of your agenda I suggest you read and understand the following, that is if you are capable of reading the article with an open mind.
The Mistake of Only Comparing US Murder Rates to "Developed" Countries | Ryan McMaken
You say common sense measures. How about enforcing the existing laws, go after those that violate them. How about mandatory sentencing for the use of a firearm in the commission of a crime, without the possibility of parole during the mandatory period of time that has to be served last.