Trump Tax Returns - Does it Really Matter to You?

[Salvador]

"Democratic lawmakers in New York’s state legislature are set to introduce a bill allowing for the release of President Trump’s state tax returns, according to The New York Times. " .....

 

[Revoltingest]

Yes, frankly.

Odd.
Prime Minister of Canada - Wikipedia
There's a system which looks worse than ours.
I suppose one can become accustomed to anything.

 

[Stanyon]

Trump himself denounced the electoral college a few years before he won with it, right? Was he a "socialist" then? (It's obvious you have no idea what that term actually means given how you overuse/misuse it.)

But he's a liar correct?

 

[Twilight Hue]

You do realise that Trump himself denounced the electoral college a few years before he won with it, right? Was he a "socialist" then? (It's obvious you have no idea what that term actually means given how you overuse/misuse it.)

Actually Trump was a Socialist Democrat once. :OP

I used to be against the electoral college myself. Until I got educated on why it was there. I suppose by your definition I was once a socialist too.

Anyways the term socialist sticks with the Dems. It's fitting and accurate.

 

[Revoltingest]

You do realise that Trump himself denounced the electoral college a few years before he won with it, right?

I might not like the rules of games I've played, eg, chess.
But when I played, I didn't complain afterwards that I should've
won because the rules should've been different.
While Trump might not like the EC, it's still the the legal determinant
of who wins. So it's perfectly reasonable to play according to its rules.

 

[Father Heathen]

I can also guarantee you that if there ever came a time when a Republican won the popular vote and a Democrat won the electoral college, that you would be firmly protecting said electoral college with all your might, mind and typing skills.

If a democrat won by electoral college, conservatives would certainly be screeching and squealing about it.

Here is some Trumpy tweets from the 2012 election:

 

[Revoltingest]

If a democrat won by electoral college, conservatives would certainly be screeching and squealing about it.

Here is some Trumpy tweets from the 2012 election:

Odd....in 2012, Obama won both the popular vote & the EC.
Ref....
2012 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

 

[Father Heathen]

I might not like the rules of games I've played, eg, chess.
But when I played, I didn't complain afterwards that I should've
won because the rules should've been different.
While Trump might not like the EC, it's still the the legal determinant
of who wins. So it's perfectly reasonable to play according to its rules.

My point is that people's attitudes toward rules change depending on whether they're benefital or a hinderance.

 

[Father Heathen]

Odd....in 2012, Obama won both the popular vote & the EC.
Ref....
2012 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

True, so you'll have to ask Trumpkin about that.

 

[Revoltingest]

My point is that people's attitudes toward rules change depending on whether they're benefital or a hinderance.

True dat.

 

[Revoltingest]

True, so you'll have to ask Trumpkin about that.

He doesn't return my calls.

 

[Father Heathen]

Actually Trump was a Socialist Democrat once. :OP

I used to be against the electoral college myself. Until I got educated on why it was there. I suppose by your definition I was once a socialist too.

Anyways the term socialist sticks with the Dems. It's fitting and accurate.

My definition?
I want you to define socialism for me (this should be good.)

 

[Stanyon]

My point is that people's attitudes toward rules change depending on whether they're benefital or a hinderance.

My attitude towards the EC have remained the same regardless of who won.

 

[Father Heathen]

But he's a liar correct?

Meaning...?

 

[LuisDantas]

Much has been made over Trump releasing his tax returns and there has been a lot of noise from the democrats and political opponents and recently a democratic 2020 presidential hopeful vowed he'd release his for the last seven years but who cares? Trump was freely and fairly elected without releasing his tax returns.

A few questions:

-Why is it important to some that Trump release his tax returns

In order to present at least a token effort at attaining transparency, discouraging corruption and conflict of interests.

-Do you think the renewed calls are politically motivated since the Mueller report didn't work out the way democrats wanted?

I think that in even asking the question you show considerable wishful thinking.

It does not even matter whether they could conceivably be. It would amount to asking about the immediate cause of interest. The actual merit is untouched by that ephemeral circunstance.

 

[Father Heathen]

My attitude towards the EC have remained the same regardless of who won.

An easy claim to make if it's worked in your favor

 

[Twilight Hue]

My definition?
I want you to define socialism for me (this should be good.)

Here's your education.

What is the difference between Communism and Socialism?

Answer: not much.

Want some instances of people quoting from the communist manifesto as socialism to liberals on the street who can't tell between the two?

Want some real life examples like comrade's Bernie boy and AOC ?

 

[Father Heathen]

Here's your education.

What is the difference between Communism and Socialism?

Answer: not much.

Want some instances of people quoting from the communist manifesto as socialism to liberals on the street who can't tell between the two?

Want some real life examples like comrade's Bernie boy and AOC ?

You said that a billionaire businessman like Trump was a socialist, which tells me all I need to know regarding your insight on socialism.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I might not like the rules of games I've played, eg, chess.
But when I played, I didn't complain afterwards that I should've
won because the rules should've been different.
While Trump might not like the EC, it's still the the legal determinant
of who wins. So it's perfectly reasonable to play according to its rules.

There's a term used in auto racing that's relevant here: towing championship.

It's the term for when a slow driver wins a championship by racking up starting points, finishing points, etc. by going to many events over a wide area. It's an acknowledgment that the person won by the letter of the rules even though the rules didn't properly capture the thing that the championship is supposed to be about (i.e. identifying the consistently fastest driver).

Asking whether the rules encourage the result that people care about is hardly a new thing.

 

[Revoltingest]

Asking whether the rules encourage the result that people care about is hardly a new thing.

We can change the rules if we really want.