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I would say that some of them hate, but they don't rise to anywhere near the hate of the KKK.Can we start by agreeing on Antifa and BLM?
Tom
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I would say that some of them hate, but they don't rise to anywhere near the hate of the KKK.Can we start by agreeing on Antifa and BLM?
Tom
The funny thing is that is that similar things were said by the far- left about republicans in the mainstream media and more than a few applauded it.
Anti-Fascists and women calling out their abusers are a hate group?!?! You realize we went to war and killed Fascists, right? Modern antifa haven't killed anyone to my knowledge but people like Heather Heyer have been murdered by Fascists.I feel the same way about BLM, MeToo, and Antifa.
For starters.
Tom
Antifa can get quite violent in some of their demonstrations. The worst I have seen from Metoo is some not caring if innocent men suffer along with the guilty.Anti-Fascists and women calling out their abusers are a hate group?!?!
We're talking about clashes with neo-Nazis. Forgive me if I don't hold that against them.Antifa can get quite violent in some of their demonstrations. The worst I have seen from Metoo is some not caring if innocent men suffer along with the guilty.
No, they have been violent even when not clashing with neo-Nazis.We're talking about clashes with neo-Nazis. Forgive me if I don't hold that against them.
I guess you're referring to Black Bloc?No, they have been violent even when not clashing with neo-Nazis.
not sure what you mean by that. In both Seattle and even more so in Portland antifa protests do not involve actual facists.I guess you're referring to Black Bloc?
Black bloc - Wikipedianot sure what you mean by that. In both Seattle and even more so in Portland antifa protests do not involve actual facists.
I saw that. In some demonstrations it is hard t tell where one group ends and the other begins. The same applies to some of the right wing hate groups. They blend into each other.
No, we can't. Why would you call BLM a hate group?Can we start by agreeing on Antifa and BLM?
Tom
That seems to me like a pretty flawed approximation.How about if we say that a group is a hate group when they cross the line and do damage to either people or property?
Granted it is not perfect. When one realizes that attacks on property are an attack on the time spent earning that property it becomes more reasonable. And due to the risks I would consider attacks against another human being more serious.That seems to me like a pretty flawed approximation.
Still, I can see where you're coming from.
No, we can't. Why would you call BLM a hate group?
What I mean is that I wouldn't classify that group as a hate group.Granted it is not perfect. When one realizes that attacks on property are an attack on the time spent earning that property it becomes more reasonable. And due to the risks I would consider attacks against another human being more serious.
Fortunately, the reaction hasn't reach equal levels.I usually go by for every action, there is an opposite and equal reaction. ..
'White Lives Matter' rallies: Opponents outnumber white nationalists at Tennessee shout fests
People simply don't listen to Morgan Freeman. Stop talking about race.
Fortunately, the reaction hasn't reach equal levels.
And why should we stop talking about race? Do you think Nazis or whatever will just pack up their bags and go home? By doing so, we're emboldening them by eliminating their opposition, and we're leaving the systemic racial inequalities present in the current system.
So we let more black people get shot, and the Nazis can get elected. Of course, that's already happened...
Pretending that racism doesn't exist where it does isn't helpful, but neither is pretending that it exist where is doesn't. Both mentalities are part of the problem.People simply don't listen to Morgan Freeman. Stop talking about race.