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My question to Trump Supporters

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Your KKK was the offspring of the Democratic Party.

Stop deflecting...If you ever took Political Science you’d know that the current Democratic Party was not the same as the Democratic Party during the civil war. In fact today’s Democratic Party were the old republicans and the old republicans were the southern democrats. If you learned American history you’d know parties switched.

Apparently, Trump has repented of his ties with that party of division and slander.

I just posted a video where Trump clearly stated he does not ask for forgiveness.

As for being "antisemitism" his daughter and son in law are Jews, and effectively help run the White house.

Shall I help you out what Trump thinks of Jews?

In his 1991 book, Trumped, Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino President John R. O’Donnell quotes his former boss as saying, “The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes.”

What Trump Means When He Calls Gary Cohn a 'Globalist' - The Atlantic

He also has a list of his racist antics recorded here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2016/7/25/12270880/donald-trump-racism-history

As for "black Americans", apparently their unemployment rate is the lowest since records have been kept.

Another failure of Trump. According to Factcheck.org

“As the chart below illustrates, the black unemployment rate has been in a years-long downward trend that continued under Trump. The part in red represents the months under Trump’s presidency.”

You can see the chart here:

Trump Takes Undue Credit on Black Unemployment - FactCheck.org


Your socialist leanings, as a supporter of poor old Bernie, is probably a mishap associated with your education background. Thankfully, this is a Republic, and the "many" (Matthew 7:13), on their way to "destruction", don't always rule.

I have two bachelors two masters and a doctorate degree. Since you want to refer to education does your president have more accolades academically than me? Do you? I think your post was pretty much a failure and a representation of the stupidity that floods his base. Only a person like @Salvador can like such a failure of a post.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Voting for Bernie wasn't much different from voting for Trump.

One major difference is that Bernie is actually educated and has a political background and understand policy and constitutional law, Trump doesn’t.

Voting for someone who is unelectable, or not voting at all, is the equivalent of voting for "whoever wins". In this case it was Trump.
Tom

So pretty much you don’t do research got it. I guess PH.D. Is not in your future?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I voted for Trump because I had to make a choice between what was available:

1) I wanted Constitutionalist for the Supreme Court
2) I wanted someone who supports Israel in the overall sense (no country is perfect)
3) I wanted someone who would be proactive against Isis.

So regardless of his complete character makeup, as I considered the alternative, i.e. Hillary, the choice became obvious to me

You do realize there are other presidential candidates on the ballot?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I strongly detested both Hillary and Trump, so I voted for Gary out of principle even though I knew he would lose.

That said, there is a difference between voting for someone and then hoping for the best, and continuing to defend and support who you've voted even after they turned out to be complete ****. Voting for someone doesn't mean blindly and loyally crawling along on your belly behind them, lapping at their boot treads.

Edit: this wasn't directed at you, but rather at those who say they support Trump because Hillary sucks, as if the notion of supporting neither was unfathomable.

I trip out on people only think Trump and Hillary were the only ones on the ballot. That goes to show you the power of political advertisements.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
That's the best justification they've got, at least that they're willing to admit publically, most of them. Few are willing to openly admit "I was duped" and/or "I'm bigot and voted for Trump to hurt the Mexicans/Blacks/Gays/liberals/insert targeted 'other' group of choice" as their justification, but I'm pretty confident that those are the ACTUAL reasons the majority of Trump supporters, especially those STILL claiming to support him, supported him in the first place. Of course there are exceptions, but talking majorities...

And now watch as the resident Trumpettes try do shift goal posts, change the subject, double down on the whataboutism, or straight up refuse to acknowledge even seeing the comment, anything to avoid an outright denial of what they know is true but can't bring themselves to admit.

This is a perfect post. I agree with your presentation concerning the matter. In addition, what I think is there is a section in America that is like “we let the black guy run and now look what happens! American is ruined we need a white man back in power!”

America’s false presentation as a post racial society has been challenged by the Trump base with David Dukes endorsement, the rise in hate crimes and the influences of racial politics. Trump is by far the worse candidate and perhaps worse than Hilary Clinton but hey, we won’t know because she was not elected, nor was Bernie, nor was any other candidate on that ballot.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
not wanting to feed a line of troll.....

I hear Hillary has a bad character list of her own

but yeah ....the lesser of two evils
Trump is in
I will vote again the same way

now if JESUS was up for election......new ball game...!!!!!

So you overlook his history of racism and sexism?
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
No BS in the fact that the Dems and the KKK were in bed, and all the no-votes to freeing slaves were basically Democrat. Feel free to look up "Dixiecrats" when you're bored if you think that died at the 13th Amendment, or the civil war. :D

You might want to learn your history of the southern democrats before you try to make it seem like today’s democrats are the same as yesterdays.

“Stop me if you’ve heard this one before: The Democrats are the real racists because the GOP is the party of Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr. Surely you’ve read the oft-repeated anecdote about how the Republican Party ended slavery and most importantly, fought for the passage of the Civil Rights Act.


What they fail to mention, however, is that the party to which they refer to no longer exists. The only thing that remains of the original Republican Party is the name. And how the Grand Ole Party transformed itself from the party of Lincoln into the current version—a white, Southern party rife with racial resentment—has become a forgotten tale that takes advantage of America’s lack of historical knowledge and abundance of short-term memory when it comes to race.“


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.th...rty-became-the-party-of-racism-1827779221/amp
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
The way I see it, it is, such as with Mitch Daniels who was the first governor in America to tell Westboro Baptist Church they have to take their protests elsewhere and must not be anywhere near a funeral/burial proceedings. With First Steps, Trump is doing nothing more than following down the path of a debate that has been going on for many years now that has also had bipartisan support.
It seems that my view of politicians differs from yours & most people's.
To me, Trump, Obama, & the others are not human beings to be liked,
disliked, supported, opposed, deified, or demonized. Instead, it's all
about what happens (or doesn't) as a result of their being in office.
Even small efforts can have large consequences.

Let's consider one aspect of Obama....
He resisted calls from powerful forces to militarily attack Iran. His
response was deciding to not attack, ie, do what appeared to be nothing.
It went largely unnoticed because it lacked drama....much like our vision
being more attuned to motion than to a stationary background.
But I say this "inaction" was his greatest achievement.
I don't diminish his accomplishment just because it was an effortless task.
It's all a part of his total effects in office...some good, some bad.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
It seems that my view of politicians differs from yours & most people's.
To me, Trump, Obama, & the others are not human beings to be liked,
disliked, supported, opposed, deified, or demonized. Instead, it's all
about what happens (or doesn't) as a result of their being in office.
Even small efforts can have large consequences.

Let's consider one aspect of Obama....
He resisted calls from powerful forces to militarily attack Iran. His
response was deciding to not attack, ie, do what appeared to be nothing.
It went largely unnoticed because it lacked drama....much like our vision
being more attuned to motion than to a stationary background.
But I say this "inaction" was his greatest achievement.
I don't diminish his accomplishment just because it was an effortless task.
It's all a part of his total effects in office...some good, some bad.
so.....do nothing.....is still.....something

I do like that

but I happen to think politics is just speech making

years ago....an old man sitting next to me said....
We don't have statesmen....any more

he was right
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
so.....do nothing.....is still.....something

I do like that

but I happen to think politics is just speech making

years ago....an old man sitting next to me said....
We don't have statesmen....any more

he was right
I don't need a leader to be a "statesman" or "statesgal".
Just do (or don't do) what is best.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
So you will support Trump if he attacks Iran???
Dr McCoy read your post.
He told me....
"What Lyndon has said is unimportant, and we do not hear his words."

How many here are true nerds...those who instantly recognize
the episode from which I plucked that wonderful quote?
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
I voted for Trump because he represents my own conscience. Even the "bad" stuff he does, I like! :)
 
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