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Trump's Purpose

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
I very bright friend of mine, with a couple of degrees says that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy. Perhaps that's why both the Republicans and the Democrats essentially do nothing?
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I don't think Trump intends to ruin the American economy. That would serve him no good. So far as I can see, he's merely bent on using his position as president to get richer, to line his own pockets and perhaps the pockets of his billionaire friends.

What he has done of enormous economic significance is pass that tax bill of his -- a bill that over the next few years will create the largest single transfer of wealth from the middle class and poor to the uber-rich in American history. The bill is a long-term win for the rich and a long-term loss for the rest of us. Gee, who could have predicted that a billionaire would stick it to the middle class and poor? What a surprise!

Meanwhile, real wages (wages adjusted for inflation) fell last year -- the first year the new tax plan was in effect. Not something widely reported by our allegedly liberal mainstream media, which -- in the end -- is owned by the uber-rich. But that means your earnings bought less last year than they did the year before because inflation outpaced your purchasing power.

Never fear though -- Trump is richer, and so is everyone else of his class. It's only average folks whose wages fell. Corporations promised people pay raises if the tax cuts went through, but almost all of them used the money they got in tax cuts mostly to buy back their own stock, raising the share prices and immensely benefiting the millionaires and billionaires who own stocks. No need to thank them. They were happy to do it.

So all is safe and sound, and as it was always meant to be. You can go back to sleep now. Remember, though: Vote Trump! He'll drain the swamp!
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I think this is what's coming if nothing is done in time.

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Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I very bright friend of mine, with a couple of degrees says that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy. Perhaps that's why both the Republicans and the Democrats essentially do nothing?
Is your friend an economist? Just curious.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
I think we really need to start analyzing the uglier parts of TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), Trumpophobic comments are expected but grand conspiracies are taking it to a new level.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I very bright friend of mine, with a couple of degrees says that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy. Perhaps that's why both the Republicans and the Democrats essentially do nothing?

Possibly, although the U.S. economy has slowly declined since the 1970s. I would say the U.S. economy was at its best from the years 1945 - 1970, and since then, it's been going downhill, thanks to greed and corruption existent in both parties. Trump was apparently against free trade, which has been the major contributory factor in widening the trade deficit, which has hurt our economy immensely. More money is leaving the country than is coming back, and that, along with our yearly budget deficits and skyrocketing national debt, have certainly taken their toll over these past decades.

I don't know that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy, though. The main reason I would question that notion is because the primary factions which have long supported policies towards the ruination of our economy have also been Trump's loudest opponents. It doesn't make any sense that they would oppose Trump, since they also want to loot and pillage the U.S. economy, making the rich richer and the poor poorer. Of course, they could all be working in cahoots with each other, while all this political squabbling is just a show to distract the American people.

The best way to improve our economy would be to ban all imports, except for those things which can neither be grown nor mined within the United States. Anything that can be manufactured in America must be manufactured in America. We also need price controls across the board so that workers' paychecks have more buying power. That's also essential towards improving the standard of living (particularly in the realm of healthcare, where costs are spiraling out of control). People pay through the nose for sub-standard care and go bankrupt just so the executives of Big Pharma and greedy insurance companies can get even richer. It's obscene.

Our foreign policy is another drain on the U.S., not just economically but also psychologically. We need to withdraw from all alliances, stop playing favorites among nations, and embrace a more neutralist stance in geopolitics. That would work wonders towards improving life in these United States.

As for Trump's actual "purpose" in wanting to become president, who knows? I think it's probably more of an ego thing that some tycoons are known for. Just as wealthy people like to have yacht races, or that other tycoon who wanted to sail around the world in a balloon. Some buy sports teams, just like the wealthy in ancient Rome used to buy gladiators. It's not enough for them to simply be wealthy and enjoy it; they have to do something to feed their ego and be in the limelight. That's what Trump strikes me as.
 

bobhikes

Nondetermined
Premium Member
I very bright friend of mine, with a couple of degrees says that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy. Perhaps that's why both the Republicans and the Democrats essentially do nothing?

There were two purpose's

Trump's purpose was to make even more money using the Presidency.
The Voter's purpose was to protect White Nationalism.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
I very bright friend of mine, with a couple of degrees says that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy. Perhaps that's why both the Republicans and the Democrats essentially do nothing?
I think this needs more explanation. Who wants to ruin the economy? And why?

Maybe this is what motivated Vladimir Putin, but why do the Pubs and Dems want this?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Trump is actually fairly transparent. That is a big part of what makes him scary. There is no sophistication in him to speak of.

His goals as POTUS are nearly indistinguishable from those from before: to attain as much prestige, money and influence as he can manage to, without ever considering who might suffer the consequences, lying shamelessly whenever an immediate convenience presents itself, and letting others figure out at their own bother and their own peril how come he is so shameless.

I believe that he sincerely sees nothing wrong with that, and may have a hard time even trying to believe that people can in fact behave ethically.

At the end of the day, he is a simpleton. A deeply narcisistic simpleton, certainly, and one that has been given toys and attention far beyond his means and merit through his whole life, but no less a simpleton for that.

I don't think he actively seeks to ruin American economy. I don't think he even stops to consider whether he should feel any responsibility whatsoever over the economy. He is just a parasite, a predator who has convinced himself that there is no other way to, as he puts it, "succeed".
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I very bright friend of mine, with a couple of degrees says that Trump was elected to ruin the American economy. Perhaps that's why both the Republicans and the Democrats essentially do nothing?

Your friend sounds like he constantly consults the 'Magic 8 Ball'.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I suppose that it is possible, if IMO secondary.

His biggest flaws are that he is unethical and incompetent. Everything else is derived from that and arguably less significant.

What has he done that was unethical? Or incompetent?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
What has he done that was unethical? Or incompetent?
Starting this lockdown, for one.

Lying to coal workers.

Dealing with Middle East communities.

Libel against Hillary, Obama, and much of his own staff.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Do you think the Russians want to ruin the U.S. economy? To what purpose?
To a large extent, yes. This is what Putin & Co have been at least trying to do with the EU, NATO, and us. The weaker we get, the stronger Putin and Russia gets. And, unfortunately, Trump is helping him, although maybe not intentionally.
 

Stanyon

WWMRD?
Obama publicly endorsed Macron and urged the French to vote for him. Was it a conspiracy by Obama to cause disruption in France and undermine their democracy?

Jerry Lewis
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
Starting this lockdown, for one.

Lying to coal workers.

Dealing with Middle East communities.

Libel against Hillary, Obama, and much of his own staff.

He was not the first President to shut down the government; nor was it only presidents that do this. For instance, the Democrats under Obama shut down the government in 2013. Where was the outcry. The rest of your post is pure partisan speculation with absolutely no proof. Can you say 'TDS'?



There isn't enough room available on this website.

No real answer, huh? Can you say 'TDS'?
 
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