whats your beef with brexit?

[Altfish]

Our Matthew loves the common people who call him "grande, Mattè" here

If a teenager call Macron, Manu

Isn't this somewhat off topic?

This thread is about Brexit - can't you start a "I'm in love with Italy's god minister" thread

 

[Estro Felino]

Isn't this somewhat off topic?

This thread is about Brexit - can't you start a "I'm in love with Italy's god minister" thread

right...btw...this manwhore prays that UK remains.
If I had known he was a pro-EU puppet, I would have never voted for him 10 years ago

 

[Notanumber]

With the way Brexit is going due to our Remainer government and its Remainer leader I hope this man is right about the demise of the EU.

No wonder the EU is desperate to keep the UK under their control.

 

[Altfish]

Brexit still going so well.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

I love how Estro calls the EU a corrupt bankers union on the one hand yet gives a Winner rating to a post with a video overlaying the Communist hammer & sickle emblem over the EU flag.

And the full title for that final video should be "How Theresa May Betrayed Brexit: One Isolationist Government Finds It Difficult To Strong-arm 26 Others Into Accepting An Idea Nobody Voted For".

 

[Estro Felino]

I love how Estro calls the EU a corrupt bankers union on the one hand yet gives a Winner rating to a post with a video overlaying the Communist hammer & sickle emblem over the EU flag.

That American guy knows it all...very interesting video.

btw...let's try visual

 

[Estro Felino]

It's time to flush down the blue flag with the little stars

 

[Altfish]

It's time to flush down the blue flag with the little stars

Ha! ha! ha!
Is this yesterday's right wing yellow vest stunt in Westminster?
The massive protest at which less than 40 (and that's being generous) people turned up.
They managed for a short time to block Westminster Bridge; including an ambulance with blue lights flashing heading to St Thomas' Hospital.
"They were planning to harass the folks with EU flags outside Parliament, but well, it's Friday, a non-sitting day, and the Sodem folks aren't there. There's not many of them. It's rather sad”."

Former Chief Prosecutor Nazir Afzal ridiculed this rather pathetic display. “Let’s be clear: 20 protesters led by Far Right Mini-Tommy, James Goddard buy some yellow vests (in keeping with EU regulations) to make a nuisance outside Parliament. They then discover Parliament doesn’t sit on Fridays!!” It’s almost Pythonesque.

 

[Estro Felino]

One Isolationist Government Finds It Difficult To Strong-arm 26 Others Into Accepting An Idea Nobody Voted For".

Pardon me, Your Imperial Majesty, but you've never refuted the fact that the EU is a banking dictatorship...so...
you cannot speak of 26 countries ....who have no power.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Pardon me, Your Imperial Majesty, but you've never refuted the fact that the EU is a banking dictatorship...

You've yet to establish it is a fact. You've just been repeating your claims for several pages now without providing a single shred of evidence to back them up.

Your blind hatred is ridiculous. You're happy to support the idea that the EU is, a monarchy, a bankers' union (i.e. a hyper-capitalist entity) and a communist entity all at the same time. 'Cognitive dissonance' is thy middle name.

so...
you cannot speak of 26 countries ....who have no power.

Any of the other member states has the potential to veto any Brexit deal the UK strikes with the EU. Spain could potentially veto any deal the UK strikes with Brussels if it isn't happy with how Gibraltar is treated. Ireland could veto any deal if measures aren't taken to continue the soft border between the Republic and the British colonial entity of Northern Ireland and the possibility exists that the Troubles could be reignited.

 

[Notanumber]

The Remainers have made the UK a laughing stock.

She certainly is a Remainer. We can’t get rid of her!

The Remainers have the same mindset as the EU. They believe the voters have no rights. They have become used to being rule takers.

We need to get off the train before it hits the buffers.

Nigel has still got it –

He believes in his country.

WTO is the way to go!

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

The Remainers have made the UK a laughing stock.

HA HA HA!

Yes. "The remainers" have.

 

[Estro Felino]

You've yet to establish it is a fact. You've just been repeating your claims for several pages now without providing a single shred of evidence to back them up.

Your blind hatred is ridiculous. You're happy to support the idea that the EU is, a monarchy, a bankers' union (i.e. a hyper-capitalist entity) and a communist entity all at the same time. 'Cognitive dissonance' is thy middle name.

ECB Stakes
Bundesbank 18%
Banque de France 14%
Bank of England 13%
Bankitalia 12%

Four banks hold the 60% of the ECB. A president who pronounces threats like this in a sneaky way

It's clear that the ECB controls the European Commission, and most national banks are private...despite all the lies we've heard about their "public law nature"

Yes...I am full of hatred towards the banking dynasties, but I love European nations.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

The Remainers have made the UK a laughing stock.

Oh yeah it's not the Brexiteers making unreasonable demands then throwing tantrums when other countries don't agree to ideas to their detriment. It must be the Remainers.

She certainly is a Remainer. We can’t get rid of her!

That's what General Elections are for. You can vote for your far-right party of the moment and hope that For Britain get a majority of the vote - or at least a large enough minority that the broken First Past The Post system will grant them a Parliamentary presence far in excess of their actual electoral support - but it seems unlikely.

You seem salty that a minority of votes did not give you what you wanted i.e. May being forced from her job. Maybe all the hardcore Quitlers should have stayed in the Tory Party rather than joining the likes of UKIP, For Britain or any of the other motley far-right political parade. That way they could have ensured this would be more likely?

The ironic thing is May says she will not contest the next election as Prime Minister so she actually is listening to the minority vote. If she is a Remainer as you constantly claim that would still mean Leavers don't understand what democracy is. If she's a Leaver then she is a one-of-a-kind Leaver because she considers the minority position.

Or to put it in terms you'll more readily understand:

1. May means May.
2. She won; get over it!

The Remainers have the same mindset as the EU. They believe the voters have no rights.

Like the right to possibly change their minds based on new information? If you're so certain that a hard Brexit is the will of the people then support a second ballot so people have the chance to actually vote for it for once.

They have become used to being rule takers.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you're English. If that is true then you do not get to complain about being disenfranchised or having your views ignored in this Union (the UK). Ever. The UK is designed to suffer the English electorate's poor decisions; be it voting Conservative for the Nth time or voting for Brexit then doubling down on the idiocy involved rather than being mature enough to admit mistakes.

Once your country's parliament passes a law (as Scotland's did) that then gets overwritten by a foreign parliament (Westminster) engaging in duplicitous legal shenanigans (stalling the Scottish Parliament's Continuity Bill until Westminster can rewrite the Brexit Bill and get the Royal Ascent first), then you can ride that high horse all day long. But not one second before.

We need to get off the train before it hits the buffers.

And on to the Brexit bus before it plummets off the cliff.

Nigel has still got it –

Unfortunately it's fairly evident that 'it' is contagious. Too bad that whatever you consider 'it' to be, it does not apparently extend to his dim view of letting Stephen Lennon into UKIP.

He believes in his country.

So much so that as soon as the Brexit result was announced he took off to America until the heat died down. A true patriot does not flee like a coward; particularly when he had just won.

WTO is the way to go!

Care to explain to me how the WTO is more democratic than the EU - which actually has an elected chamber comprising most of its lawmakers - when the WTO consists of governments who are not always the result of free & fair elections? Russia is just one example.

 

[Notanumber]

Jacob might be mild mannered, but this does not make his arguments less effective –

The four essentials are the rights of property, the rule of law, freedom of speech and democracy.



It seems there are still some good people on the Left –

Our government has hit a new low when it calls 17.4 million of the country extremists because they exercised their democratic right to vote.



Jeff sums up the situation –

Just like the rest of the Leavers, I am backing Britain (and NI).

 

[Altfish]

Jacob might be mild mannered, but this does not make his arguments less effective –

The four essentials are the rights of property, the rule of law, freedom of speech and democracy.

Why is Jacob moving his companies into the EU?
And which of those are you currently being denied?

It seems there are still some good people on the Left –

Our government has hit a new low when it calls 17.4 million of the country extremists because they exercised their democratic right to vote.

I don't agree with her, but yes she's ok.
Who has called the 17.4m extremists?
As far as I'm aware it is the ERG that has been labelled extreme.

Just like the rest of the Leavers, I am backing Britain (and NI).

And why do you believe that Remainers are not backing Britain.
Remember 29m did NOT vote to leave.
If you believe in democracy can I assume you'll be supporting the People's Vote.

 

[Notanumber]

Remain means Remain as far as the Remainers are concerned.

We need a Leaver to take back control.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

ECB Stakes
Bundesbank 18%
Banque de France 14%
Bank of England 13%
Bankitalia 12%

Four banks hold the 60% of the ECB. A president who pronounces threats like this in a sneaky way

I can see why that would be a cause for concern in light of the 2008 Financial Crash and the influence of private organisations on sector deregulation but how does this translate to "Europe is a bankers' union"? The ECB, last time I checked, cannot set policy.

It's clear that the ECB controls the European Commission,

How is it clear? Even if this is true, the Parliament acts as a check to the Commission's legislative influence because the European Commission does not pass laws; the Parliament does.

and most national banks are private...despite all the lies we've heard about their "public law nature"

While true for most of them, the Bank of England is owned by the Treasury Solicitor on behalf of the Government so it is technically publicly owned. I appreciate that this may be the exception that proves the rule, however.

Yes...I am full of hatred towards the banking dynasties, but I love European nations.

How do you view Brexit as a good thing then? The Conservatives plan to turn a post-Brexit UK into a low-wage, low-tax corporatocracy where workers will be systematically stripped of their rights one by one. At least the EU guarantees workers' rights in the form of legislation like the Working Time Directive as well as some environmental standards.

The UK is trading one bankers' union for the prospect of becoming one itself; won in which it would be able to abolish entire EU regulations meant to guarantee peoples' rights because there would no longer be the check on government known as our EU membership.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Remain means Remain as far as the Remainers are concerned.

Well, yeah. Is that supposed to be some sort of profound statement? Why should we change our position when we've not been given any reason to?

We need a Leaver to take back control.

Don't give us this nonsense. No matter who gets into power you'll always blame a secret cabal of Remainers for sabotaging their efforts because you'd rather pass the blame to others than take responsibility for what Brexit will entail or admit that Brexit has been designed to fail from the get-go because those driving it want an isolationist UK with as few ties to the EU as possible so they can shaft us all.

 

[Notanumber]

Del Boy and Arthur Daley would be ashamed to call it a good deal –

It is the biggest con trick that you could ever think of and they are talking about us either voting for it or staying in the EU. They must be mad!



BTW, is this fake news because I haven’t seen anything like it reported on the MSM?