How many people here live outside the left-right paradigm?

[shunyadragon]

For me, it depends on the issue whether I am liberal or conservative.

I believe if one list the issues on has priority taking one side or the the other one's basic orientation will be revealed

 

[YeshuaRedeemed]

I believe if one list the issues on has priority taking one side or the the other one's basic orientation will be revealed

I'll give you an example: I am conservative on religious liberty, and liberal on healthcare.

 

[shunyadragon]

I'll give you an example: I am conservative on religious liberty, and liberal on healthcare.

Not enough info, but based on your view on healthcare you lean left. I do not believe your view of 'religious liberty' is clear. What is the conservative view of 'religious liberty?'

 

[YeshuaRedeemed]

Not enough info, but based on your view on healthcare you lean left. I do not believe your view of 'religious liberty' is clear. What is the conservative view of 'religious liberty?'

conservatives believe religious liberty is a right in my humble opinion.

 

[shunyadragon]

conservatives believe religious liberty is a right in my humble opinion.

That does not work, actually in American politics religious liberty as a 'right' is more left than right, and compounded by the view of how conservative Christian Evangelicals look at the rights of Muslims in America,

The belief in the separation of church and state in the USA is an issue that distorts the concept of religious rights, and how much religious expression and preference is allowed in government. The Left would support stricter separation of church and state, and the Right would potentially support more religious involvement in government, their religion.

 

[74x12]

I am a moderate, almost a libertarian, but I believe in some social programs. I am wondering how many people here are either moderate, minarchist, or anarchist, rejecting liberal and conservative collectivist (in my opinion) thought. Anyone is welcome in this discussion.

I live outside of it as much as possible. The left right paradigm is designed on occult principles to bring in a new world order. A house divided against itself cannot stand and a double minded man in is unstable in all his ways. If we don't think for ourselves then someone else is going to think for us.

Secondly consider that we call these parties; left wing, right wing. So then two wings for one bird. Both parties are headed in the same direction. Following the dictates of Satan "prince of this world"

The phoenix rises from the ashes. It's order out of chaos. USA and basically the whole world at this point is ruled by occult symbolism.

I could say a lot more but will shut up now.

 

[YeshuaRedeemed]

I live outside of it as much as possible. The left right paradigm is designed on occult principles to bring in a new world order. A house divided against itself cannot stand and a double minded man in is unstable in all his ways. If we don't think for ourselves then someone else is going to think for us.

Secondly consider that we call these parties; left wing, right wing. So then two wings for one bird. Both parties are headed in the same direction. Following the dictates of Satan "prince of this world"

The phoenix rises from the ashes. It's order out of chaos. USA and basically the whole world at this point is ruled by occult symbolism.

I could say a lot more but will shut up now.

I could not possibly put it better. Centrist or libertarian?

 

[YeshuaRedeemed]

That does not work, actually in American politics religious liberty as a 'right' is more left than right, and compounded by the view of how conservative Christian Evangelicals look at the rights of Muslims in America,

The belief in the separation of church and state in the USA is an issue that distorts the concept of religious rights, and how much religious expression and preference is allowed in government. The Left would support stricter separation of church and state, and the Right would potentially support more religious involvement in government, their religion.

No it isn't. Liberals cowtow to antitheists radicals who only whine about Christians, and no one else. Liberal religious liberty is oxymoronic.

 

[74x12]

I could not possibly put it better. Centrist or libertarian?

Government's like the black eyed children people talk about so much. You never let them in. lol. So I don't really vote for candidates anymore. It's like me giving consent to them I think. So I say no you don't get my consent to do only God knows what in my name.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Already done. Nirvana did it many times in the 90's. Metaphorically speaking of course.

Thinking of Tourette's????

Lol

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I identify as Third Position, which is often associated with Fascism and neo-Nazism but I'm not either of those (although I have some influences from Fascism). It really just means something that is neither Marxism or globalist capitalism. I'm a sort of authoritarian nationalist and I would like a much more regulated economy. I really like the sort of society they have in Starship Troopers, actually.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I live outside of it as much as possible. The left right paradigm is designed on occult principles to bring in a new world order. A house divided against itself cannot stand and a double minded man in is unstable in all his ways. If we don't think for ourselves then someone else is going to think for us.

Secondly consider that we call these parties; left wing, right wing. So then two wings for one bird. Both parties are headed in the same direction. Following the dictates of Satan "prince of this world"

The phoenix rises from the ashes. It's order out of chaos. USA and basically the whole world at this point is ruled by occult symbolism.

I could say a lot more but will shut up now.

Ooh, a conspiracy theorist. Mark Dice fan? Vigilant Citizen reader?

 

[columbus]

I've been kicked out of both the Liberal Only DIR and the Conservative Only DIR.
For whatever that's worth.
Tom

 

[LuisDantas]

I hear ya.
I think of myself as a centrist, even in a somewhat modern fashion, but then I talk to Americans and realise I'd be categorised as Left there.

Same here.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

conservatives believe religious liberty is a right in my humble opinion.

They tend to only believe that when it comes to their own religion's "right" to discriminate against minorities.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

Like many others, I'm moderate by most of the world's standards, left to Americans.

 

[Augustus]

I think both contemporary left & right policies are fundamentally flawed.

The 2 most important things for me would be localism combined with some degree of sortition. Scale of governance is more important than political alignment.

 

[Duke_Leto]

I identify as Third Position, which is often associated with Fascism and neo-Nazism but I'm not either of those (although I have some influences from Fascism). It really just means something that is neither Marxism or globalist capitalism. I'm a sort of authoritarian nationalist and I would like a much more regulated economy. I really like the sort of society they have in Starship Troopers, actually.

Out of curiosity, are you thinking of something like China's government?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Out of curiosity, are you thinking of something like China's government?

I didn't have any government in general in mind, but I do respect China as one of the world's oldest civilizations.

 

[David T]

Thinking of Tourette's????

Lol

Exactly couldnt help themselves!