Actually, the Logos is very much part of the Trinity. "In the beginning was the Logos, and the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God".
To be honest, Logos sounds like a catch-term phrase that could be simplified in english. Since its overly stated, the best definition online I can get is:
They called the logos providence, nature, god, and the soul of the universe, which is composed of many seminal logoi that are contained in the universal logos. Philo of Alexandria, a 1st-century-ad Jewish philosopher, .
Another definition says thats the name of Christ.
Metaphysics
Christ was with god? Is that what you are saying?
The" Spirit, or just Spirit with a capital S, saves us in that within this is the true Self. Not the illusion of the separate "I" as the ultimate truth and reality of who we are.
Knowledge of Self, or Spirit, is what "saves" us from the suffering generated by a sense of separation from our Source. We are "saved" from the game of being other to who and what we really are.
If spirit is god, what does it mean when you separate god from spirit in the two paragraphs above?
In other words, god is in you and saves you internally by seperating your external nature to reveal the internal one???
Sight is when the veil of illusion is lifted. You see something every day, then one day you look and see what was there the whole time, but you couldn't see, for whatever reason blocked that from you. To see the world through the filter that we are separated "in here" with the world "out there" blocks sight. We we die to that illusion, the "eye of the flesh," alone, that we see there is a whole reality that is really real, and what we believed was real before was an illusion.
Huh? Cant translate.
God is Spirit. Spirit is God.
Not "a" or "the" spirit as if it were a turtle, or a racoon, or a goldfish or something. Spirit is the Ocean within which all that exists is inseparable from . It's not separate from them, like some object outside you own self. The Ocean is within, as well as without. No boundaries.
I got the first part...
I don't understand what you're asking here.
Oh. You separate the flesh/physical from the spirit saying the latter is deep and depreciating the former, the physical. I never understood why the material and spiritual arent seen the same in regards to spirituality. Thats what I was reffering to. It will take a bit to find your exact wording.
Yes, in that who we think we are, who we attach our sense of self-identity to creates an attachment that keeps us from letting go of all that to see Reality beyond that veil. When we let that go, when we "die to the ego", that is experienced very much, as facing one's own physical death, if not to a far greater degree.
In other words, letting go of ego so self can surface and you have insight and experience god?
Perhaps he was enlightened. Perhaps he was just holding a sign with a religious slogan on it. But while what that verse says may sound complicated, that's only to the mind that makes it that way. Not to the mind that has realized its meaning. Then it is simplicity itself, not fancy metaphysics, or such.
Shrugs. I thought it more simple than that. When you give your life to christ, you no longer live for your own needs but christ needs. So he (Paul, I think?) no longer lives for himself but for the son of god. Spirituality dont need to be complicated and metaphoric.
The guy holding the sign, I think he was a christian very strong in his faith. I see a lot of signs where I live; so, there isnt anything supernatural behind it. Id consider them having their own blessings though.
You asked if salvation is of the Spirit, why have a body.
I answered that you might realize the joy of being a fully awakened human being. That's why.
A great way to put this would be to frame it this way. "We are not humans on a spiritual journey. Rather we are Spirit on a human journey." That explains "why" right there. To be fully Human. The Divine Human.
In other words, you need the body to experience the spirit?
Trying to translate your points.