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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I feel sure.
I believe the true knowledge is found in the scriptures, so I believe that those searching for knowledge will find out eventually. Is Quantum Mechanics heading there? Time will tell.



I don't put labels and define it to where life makes sense to me. I base what I believe about God, on what the Bible says about God. To do otherwise, I think would be to do what others who have no source of information do - create a concept of God, from personal views, and ideas - as you described.

God is the beginning - meaning that he is the beginning from which all things began.
I'm not sure how else I can explain it.

For what we can gather from evidence, God seems to be a meme generated by brains configurations.

Now, dependng on the brain location is space time, this meme looks like Jesus, Apollo, the Great Juju at the bottom of the sea, Kali or Allah. Just to name a few of thousands and thousands of brain configurations we experienced in history.

Unfortuately, evidence does not suggest much more than that.

Ciao

- viole
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
We will all die. We're just flemzy mortals who some of us take for granted that fact until something serious happens and a light flashes maybe in teen or young adult we dont live forever. I think the earth changing seasons, etc will someday kill us all. The more I understand death, the more I realize religon is for the living not for the dying.

I dont see any other way we would go all at one time. If we dont kill ourselves in the mean time, Mother Nature will.
Speak for yourself. I've been clinically dead twice, yet here I am, posting away. At this point, it seems reasonable to assume I'm functionally immortal until proven otherwise. I'm so committed to living forever I'm prepared to die in the attempt!
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Well, some said God is energy. And energy has several unities of measure.

So, how many calories is He?

Ciao

- viole
I already answered you. 7. Same as the number of roads a man must walk down, or how many times must the cannonballs fly.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
If God is energy, can you give us a figure? How many Joules is He? A figure in calories would also do.

Ciao

- viole

A figure?

Three Ways the Body Uses Energy

You kinda making this complicated, no?

Take away cultural definitions and bias, what is god?

Some say god is

1. Spark of life
2. Spirit or the life within a person
3. Consciousness however defined
4. Life-force or the idea something runs through us since birth that brings forth life
5. A deity or amthromopolized version of god (above)
6, Some say god is "something Greater". Most likely because we cant explain how everything moves within itself (that energy has an origin)
7. Some Thing Divine (special attributes to this source/life/energy that one uses as an external object to reflect ones gratitude for living)
8. Essence or the core of ones being brought to life or breathed to liev ones passion etc
9. Ones inner passion or holistic nature not defined by what people call "material world."
10. Everything is meant to be appreciated, respected, and lived in which calls each thing and person gods to define life in a religious way.
11. Gratitude/the act of saying thank you-that act is god itself.

God is energy (life force/spirit/spark)
God is actions (prayer/ritual/worship)
God is gratitude (giving thanks to be alive)
God is everything and everyone (appreciating the divine within all)

But god being a deity???

That I dont know. Energy sustains life but making it a deity that loves and does things is beyond my comprehension.
 
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viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
A figure?

Three Ways the Body Uses Energy

You kinda making this complicated, no?

Take away cultural definitions and bias, what is god?

Nothing. And I am not making it complicated. I just ask for how much energy god is. If I told you God is electrical potential, you would probably ask the same thing in volts.

That is the main problem and it is why naturalist cannot take spiritual people seriously. They always use wishy washy, ill defined deeptities that sound awe inspiring, but have no meaning at all. You just need a wee question to destabilize them.

But i Understand. I would do the same. Being precise and clear cut would reduce the expected life of their arguments considerably.

Ciao

- viole
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Nothing. And I am not making it complicated. I just ask for how much energy god is. If I told you God is electrical potential, you would probably ask the same thing in volts.

That is the main problem and it is why naturalist cannot take spiritual people seriously. They always use wishy washy, ill defined deeptities that sound awe inspiring, but have no meaning at all. You just need a wee question to destabilize them.

But i Understand. I would do the same. Being precise and clear cut would reduce the expected life of their arguments considerably.

Ciao

- viole


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Quintessence

Consults with Trees
Staff member
Premium Member
Generalist species like humans generally "end" because the inevitabilities of biological evolution transform the species into another species (often multiple species). That's what will happen to humans within the next few million years. Depending on how the collapse goes, there might be one branch that develops more physical resiliency because it isn't reliant on technological crutches, and another that becomes physically weak because it is reliant on such crutches. Or there will be general regionalization as migration barriers become more impactful like they already are for most other species.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Speak for yourself. I've been clinically dead twice, yet here I am, posting away. At this point, it seems reasonable to assume I'm functionally immortal until proven otherwise. I'm so committed to living forever I'm prepared to die in the attempt!

Why the defense mechanism???

If you died, you wouldnt be talking to me. Death has no brain function. Unless you say you can live forever by being revived from clinical death, I dont see your point.

I have my own list of medical stuff Ive gone through. I am grateful and I know I will die. My brain will stop functioning. My heart will stop pumping. Most likely, I will be cremated.

We will all die.

We're just flemzy mortals who some of us take for granted that fact until something serious happens and a light flashes maybe in teen or young adult we dont live forever. I think the earth changing seasons, etc will someday kill us all. The more I understand death, the more I realize religon is for the living not for the dying.

I dont see any other way we would go all at one time. If we dont kill ourselves in the mean time, Mother Nature will.

I dont understand your point?​
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Generalist species like humans generally "end" because the inevitabilities of biological evolution transform the species into another species (often multiple species). That's what will happen to humans within the next few million years. Depending on how the collapse goes, there might be one branch that develops more physical resiliency because it isn't reliant on technological crutches, and another that becomes physically weak because it is reliant on such crutches. Or there will be general regionalization as migration barriers become more impactful like they already are for most other species.
Naaaah. Two words. Giant. Bats.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I'm just commenting. You can plan to die all you like, please don't get me wrong.

Planning to die (suicide) is different than your body finnally shutting down (heart and brain) both turning to ash. I know its uncomfortable; and, if you are grateful for your life in my opinion this shouldnt bother you. At least not to take offense.

I wouldnt be here without my surgery. Ive learned a lot from close calls at death. Ive had insight over my last surgery early this year when they knocked me out. Death isnt negtative. Its just a part of life.

If you feel you will continue on in spirit, thats your belief. Why get defensive? To each his own.
 
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