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Women Going Topless In Your Community

Audie

Veteran Member
I don't have the nerve to venture into NYC.
(Not frightened....just hate flying.)
But if there, I'd work up the courage to watch.)

Going in by car is insane.

Try a train!

Also, watch youtube of landing at kai tak
(Old airport in Hong Kong)
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
That does not explain a specific reason that requires change. Absolute freedom is an ideal never achieved in practice. I don't have the freedom to let my grass grow for weeks or to leave my stinking garbage on the lawn, yet you do not seem concerned with the loss of those freedoms. Neighbors expect me to keep things looking and smelling nice, so its the law. By the same reasoning I am not permitted to stroll around the neighborhood balls out, despite it curtailing my freedom.
The social contract accepts curtailing absolute freedom for those actions that actually cause harm. Those that merely raise eyebrows are OK.
Think of all the fashion statements that raised eyebrows in the past but are unremarkable today.
I am aware that it is my own issue, but people being out in public in inappropriate footwear bothers me far more than seeing anyone topless would. If people want to go around topless, let 'em. Coversely, if you want to be topless in public, you should be aware that people will look. General rules of public decency hold, it's impolite to stare, but then, many would consider it impolite to be topless in public, so, you know, just be aware that actions have consequences, and beyond that, hey, so long as now one is hurting anyone, I think people should generally be allowed to dress, or undress, as they like.
People will look -- for a minute or two -- after that it becomes a yawn.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
The social contract accepts curtailing absolute freedom for those actions that actually cause harm. Those that merely raise eyebrows are OK.
Think of all the fashion statements that raised eyebrows in the past but are unremarkable today.
High heels damage feet permanently and cause injuries, but because because they make people feel sexy and expressive society accepts them. Therefore the social contract does not give a damn about harm. It is what it is, and we cannot always change it. I will give another example: prohibition. The Appalachian people objected to government interference in their affairs, so when alchohol sales were outlawed, they continued to produce and sell and to fight the law. Eventually demand for alcohol made alcohol use a gateway for crime, and so in the interest of curbing crime the Prohibition law had to be repealed. The law failed to change the social contract, proving the given law was unconstitutional. If it had been constitutional society would have accepted it and functioned with it, mostly. Now what happens if here in MS, USA we enforce the freedom for women to go topless? That law would soon be repealed, because society would reject it.
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
They don't need pocket protectors.
Why, you ask?
They have another way to carry pencils & pens.
Everyone knows of the "pencil test".

Amazing!
I'm just going to ask Mrs Badger to try that.
If you never see another post from me you'll be able to guess what happened.

EDIT: Phew!
It really works!
And I'm still in one piece.
Mrs Badger was tickled pink about it!

And no, no pics for you, Revolting......
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
As I understand it, they can be here as long as they stay covered, like any good fundie.


One does have to be careful when sneaking a peek, but it can be done.

An honour bright and healthy person won't sneak about doing anything, they would notice, look or just see.

The 'my face is up here' kind of woman needs to cloth herself, or put up with the looks, methinks. :shrug:
 

oldbadger

Skanky Old Mongrel!
That was rather my point. Go topless, or wear what you like. But don't cry foul when people look.
Absolutely!
The modern fashion of half clothing the breasts is ok but women who complain at folks who look at them are just brain muddled or hypocrites, I reckon.

I'm at the other end of the spectrum, I often go out wearing extremely attention grabbing stuff. Most people will have a look and check it out, then go back to what they were doing, and that's fine. Occasionally someone will blatantly stare, and sure, it can be a little unnerving, but hey, I'm the guy who willingly went out in public dressed like a hood ornament, so I don't really feel it fair to complain.
Is that your re-enactment gear?
That would attract attention, but since few folks would be able to recognise you under all that metal then nobody could accuse you of attention seeking. Am I right about the armour n stuff? Is that right?
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Only at home and anyway that "bike ride" stuff is
something for guys (?- maybe not really "guys"
as such)

naked bike riders.png

.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Amazing!
I'm just going to ask Mrs Badger to try that.
If you never see another post from me you'll be able to guess what happened.

EDIT: Phew!
It really works!
And I'm still in one piece.
Mrs Badger was tickled pink about it!

And no, no pics for you, Revolting......
You have a gem there, bub.
 
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