The "End" of Religion

[Hockeycowboy]

Actually, no this not the reason for the accusations. Jehovah Witnesses accuse ALL others of being evil religions, and many churches and other religions accuse Jehovah Witnesses as evil religion. No wars or involved in these accusations.

You think it might be Jesus’ reason? — John 13:34-35, Matthew 5:44

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Atheists, there is no need to be dancing in the aisles.

Taking the long view, after the end times and the return of the Messiah, or who ever we believe in, will there still be Baptists, Mormons, Catholics or any other religion? I haven't seen any indication that there will be. I read that "The nations will come to the Holy City to worship". Will we still be separated into nations?

There is a certain group that is pushing quite hard for Ancestral studies. Is the real purpose of them to parse us out to the nations?

My own thought on the matter is that there will not be any denominations at all. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists and all the rest will now see the Creator as he is. Why would we need any denominations?

Will the Jews be proven to be the Chosen of the Creator? Will they run the anvils of the Heavens?

What about those who will have a room in the house of God, and have an everlasting name that will not be taken away? Isaiah 56:4-5

Paul said, "I once knew a man who had been caught up to the third Heaven"...

That's a big if. The Messiah left over two thousand years ago. What is he waiting for? You think he would be back by now.

 

[Thinking Homer]

Atheists, there is no need to be dancing in the aisles.

Taking the long view, after the end times and the return of the Messiah, or who ever we believe in, will there still be Baptists, Mormons, Catholics or any other religion? I haven't seen any indication that there will be. I read that "The nations will come to the Holy City to worship". Will we still be separated into nations?

There is a certain group that is pushing quite hard for Ancestral studies. Is the real purpose of them to parse us out to the nations?

My own thought on the matter is that there will not be any denominations at all. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists and all the rest will now see the Creator as he is. Why would we need any denominations?

Will the Jews be proven to be the Chosen of the Creator? Will they run the anvils of the Heavens?

What about those who will have a room in the house of God, and have an everlasting name that will not be taken away? Isaiah 56:4-5

Paul said, "I once knew a man who had been caught up to the third Heaven"...

I firmly believe that all people will have a chance to accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. That is what the period of tribulation is for.

'After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb." ' Revelation 7:9-10

 

[`mud]

That's gotta be a really big throne !
What holds it up ?

 

[sealchan]

Atheists, there is no need to be dancing in the aisles.

Taking the long view, after the end times and the return of the Messiah, or who ever we believe in, will there still be Baptists, Mormons, Catholics or any other religion? I haven't seen any indication that there will be. I read that "The nations will come to the Holy City to worship". Will we still be separated into nations?

There is a certain group that is pushing quite hard for Ancestral studies. Is the real purpose of them to parse us out to the nations?

My own thought on the matter is that there will not be any denominations at all. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists and all the rest will now see the Creator as he is. Why would we need any denominations?

Will the Jews be proven to be the Chosen of the Creator? Will they run the anvils of the Heavens?

What about those who will have a room in the house of God, and have an everlasting name that will not be taken away? Isaiah 56:4-5

Paul said, "I once knew a man who had been caught up to the third Heaven"...

My concern with this is that it seems to be taking away a lot of diversity. Are we all to become as one minion in our understanding to a single rational perception? Or will our diversity persist but without the arrogance of exclusivity that many now have?

Without the sting of death will we still feel the need to draw the sword of our own righteousness?

 

[Hockeycowboy]

That's a big if. The Messiah left over two thousand years ago. What is he waiting for? You think he would be back by now.

Allowing the issue of sovereignty — ie., can mankind rule themselves & make their own decisions, or do we need God’s help? — to be settled completely. Genesis 3:1-6

 

[Ellen Brown]

I firmly believe that all people will have a chance to accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. That is what the period of tribulation is for.

'After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could count, from every nation and all tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, and palm branches were in their hands; and they cry out with a loud voice, saying, "Salvation to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb." ' Revelation 7:9-10

Agreed.

 

[kjw47]

I agree that separatist claims that "mine is better than yours" will disappear. People will freely choose to use whatever feels helpful from any religious tradition or make up their own.

Yes those who know God, freely choose to listen to his advice. Not from different sources. Gods will is what will occur. 1Corinthians 1:10--Unity of thought, no division= a true mark.

 

[Ellen Brown]

My concern with this is that it seems to be taking away a lot of diversity. Are we all to become as one minion in our understanding to a single rational perception? Or will our diversity persist but without the arrogance of exclusivity that many now have?

Without the sting of death will we still feel the need to draw the sword of our own righteousness?

I hadn't considered the value of the diversity that now exists. Mainly I was just thinking of the fighting and exclusivism that exists right now. Having traveled a bit, I loved those I met in Honduras, Kenya, and a very kind man at the Tokyo Airport. Israel was a mixed bag so I'll feel sorry that those who were snotty and themselves exclusivistic will get a spanking, perhaps.

What I have seen of Russian culture, I have admired. I learned that one must never make fun of Canadian Money or their beer, upon pain of a good chewing out. I once heard a Bosnian women's choir that so touched me. Yes, so much would be gone...

 

[QuestioningMind]

Atheists, there is no need to be dancing in the aisles.

Taking the long view, after the end times and the return of the Messiah, or who ever we believe in, will there still be Baptists, Mormons, Catholics or any other religion? I haven't seen any indication that there will be. I read that "The nations will come to the Holy City to worship". Will we still be separated into nations?

There is a certain group that is pushing quite hard for Ancestral studies. Is the real purpose of them to parse us out to the nations?

My own thought on the matter is that there will not be any denominations at all. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists and all the rest will now see the Creator as he is. Why would we need any denominations?

Will the Jews be proven to be the Chosen of the Creator? Will they run the anvils of the Heavens?

What about those who will have a room in the house of God, and have an everlasting name that will not be taken away? Isaiah 56:4-5

Paul said, "I once knew a man who had been caught up to the third Heaven"...

If you're not dancing in the aisles then you're not truly enjoying the show.

 

[Marcion]

My concern with this is that it seems to be taking away a lot of diversity. Are we all to become as one minion in our understanding to a single rational perception? Or will our diversity persist but without the arrogance of exclusivity that many now have?

That is the interesting thing about the tantric or mystic sides of many traditions, they have not shied away from copying each others practices (often changing just the wording and some other details). It is the more vedic (theoretical or ritualistic) sides of traditions that will sooner enjoy quarreling about each others differences.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Allowing the issue of sovereignty — ie., can mankind rule themselves & make their own decisions, or do we need God’s help? — to be settled completely. Genesis 3:1-6

The fable of Adam and Eve is just that a fable. It illustrates that it's in man's own nature to sin.

So once again in the two thousand years or so he's been gone you would think he would have figure out the answers to the questions you pose. But then again I wouldn't come back for us.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

The fable of Adam and Eve is just that a fable. It illustrates that it's in man's own nature to sin.

If that was the case, i.e., it's a fable, then there would be no reason for Jesus to have sacrificed his life...to give it as a 'ransom'.

Fortunately, that's not the case.

So once again in the two thousand years or so he's been gone you would think he would have figure out the answers to the questions you pose. But then again I wouldn't come back for us.

It's not an answer that can be 'figured out'; it's an issue that only time can answer. Like waiting for a child to grow up, determining if the way they were raised resulted in them being a good person or not....

Different forms of self-government would take time to be developed, tried and experimented with.

Take care.

 

[Katzpur]

I firmly believe that all people will have a chance to accept Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. That is what the period of tribulation is for.

Homer, would you mind explaining exactly what you mean by this, in other words how it's all going to happen that people who died without having ever even heard of Jesus Christ will have a chance to accept Him. I'm really interested in knowing your perspective on this.

 

[Segev Moran]

Atheists, there is no need to be dancing in the aisles.

Dancing in the aisles is always good

Taking the long view, after the end times and the return of the Messiah, or who ever we believe in, will there still be Baptists, Mormons, Catholics or any other religion?

Probably not.
Based on the prophecy, when the messiah comes the world will become a much different place. much less physical and much more spiritual.
Everyone will be "connected" to the spiritual.

I haven't seen any indication that there will be. I read that "The nations will come to the Holy City to worship". Will we still be separated into nations?

The texts say that there will be many nations all governed by the same laws.

There is a certain group that is pushing quite hard for Ancestral studies. Is the real purpose of them to parse us out to the nations?

Can you point to examples?

My own thought on the matter is that there will not be any denominations at all. Christians, Muslims, Hindus, Buddists and all the rest will now see the Creator as he is. Why would we need any denominations?

there will be no more religions obviously. if the messiah comes, it will be undoubtedly clear to all humans and i can't see the need for religions.

Will the Jews be proven to be the Chosen of the Creator? Will they run the anvils of the Heavens?

No. were did you come up with this?
I often see a lot of mix up with the term "chosen people".
This term refers to a "job". not to one being superior or under someone else.
The Jews were chosen for a specific task, they are not chosen as better or worse than any other.
The term chosen is also a bit misleading, as anyone can choose to become Jewish.

What about those who will have a room in the house of God, and have an everlasting name that will not be taken away? Isaiah 56:4-5

Paul said, "I once knew a man who had been caught up to the third Heaven"...

It says that some will have a greater connection to the spiritual. this will help them in the "after life".
This does not make them any better or worse than anyone.
It will be the same as saying that the more you practice tennis, the better player you will become. it doesn't make you a better person or better for other things.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

If that was the case, i.e., it's a fable, then there would be no reason for Jesus to have sacrificed his life...to give it as a 'ransom'.

Fortunately, that's not the case.

You do not have original sin. Because Original sin does not exist. The only sins that you are guilty of is your own. Thus Jesus ransom is still needed.

 

[Hockeycowboy]

You do not have original sin. Because Original sin does not exist. The only sins that you are guilty of is your own. Thus Jesus ransom is still needed.

Romans 5:12

 

[`mud]

Ahhh...SIN...the disguise of `God's` assignment of `evil` into human life. To be carried to eternity, to be fraught upon one another. Thank `God` for this loss of the ability to do no harm.
Think inward to find the wealth of your good doing in life.
Reach to your gnosis to find the way to rid oneself of `sin`.
`Sin` doesn't exist, it all in one's mind, real evil is beyond you.
Do no harm, and harm will avoid you, if you live without `sin`.
NuffStuff

 

[PureX]

Religion is IMO a tool for the living, not the dead.

I doubt that the dead need any tools, religious or otherwise. But who knows?

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Romans 5:12

That verse proves my point, Thank you.