For the followers of the Abrahamic Faiths, do you believe in the same God?

[Syazrin Mohd Noor]

This is my personal belief and I believe my Jewish, Christian, and Muslim brothers and sisters may not agree with me but me being a Muslim, I believe that we do worship the same God and here are my reasons:

1) Jews believe that their God is the God of Moses and Muslims believe in the very same God of Moses.
2) Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God and also part of the Holy Trinity.
3) Muslims (as mentioned in the No. 1) believe in the God of Moses. However, it's mentioned in the Qur'an that not only Jesus is a Prophet but God denied the idea of Him having a son nor being part of the Holy Trinity.

So based on my points in the above, my logic is this:

For example, I'm one of your colleagues in an organisation. A group from Finance believe that I am happily married with kids. Another group Procurement believe that I'm currently dating with someone from the company and the last group from HR thinks I am just single.

Ultimately, these are just assumptions (beliefs) made by them but all of them are still referring to the same person i.e. me.

Similarly, in the context of the Abrahamic faiths at least, I think we do worship the same God. It's just that our attributes for Him are slightly different.

That's just me. What do you guys think?

Looking forward to your responses.

Shalom Aleichem, Assalamualaikum.

 

[Shushersbedamned]

I thought you have plenty of variety in your family

 

[Rival]

If the god's attributes are all different, then the god is not the same. If we were both talking about a bird and you described it as black, small and making a screeching sound, and I described it as large, fluffy, brown and making a sweeter sound, it is clear that, while we both may be describing a bird, we are not describing the same bird, since one is a crow and the other an owl.

 

[Windwalker]

For example, I'm one of your colleagues in an organisation. A group from Finance believe that I am happily married with kids. Another group Procurement believe that I'm currently dating with someone from the company and the last group from HR thinks I am just single.

Ultimately, these are just assumptions (beliefs) made by them but all of them are still referring to the same person i.e. me.

Similarly, in the context of the Abrahamic faiths at least, I think we do worship the same God. It's just that our attributes for Him are slightly different.

Why do you limit this analogy then to the Abrahamic faiths and not the Dharmic ones, or any other religion on earth which sees there being an Ultimate Reality, which any can just as well call God?

 

[Windwalker]

If the god's attributes are all different, then the god is not the same. If we were both talking about a bird and you described it as black, small and making a screeching sound, and I described it as large, fluffy, brown and making a sweeter sound, it is clear that, while we both may be describing a bird, we are not describing the same bird, since one is a crow and the other an owl.

But if neither have heard nor seen the bird themselves, then they are both speculating about this thing someone else has called a bird and each imagining what "bird" must be like with their own minds. And then again, if they have had some who have seen this "Bird", maybe it tweets sweetly for one and screeches for another? Who then are you but another specuter to say it can't do both? And then again, maybe it's the story of the Blind Men and the Elephant where each has limited perception of the same thing and describe it in their own terms?

 

[shunyadragon]

i believe that yes, all the Abrahamic religions worship the same God, but the problem is the molding of God's image and beliefs in the cultural perspective of the different religions are barriers to acknowledging the unity and diversity of the evolving nature of this relationship. Clinging to an ancient cultural perspective as Judaism, Christianity, and Islam does rejects the evolving relationship of the spiritual relationship between humanity and God.

Since Judaism, Christianity are culturally tribal religions developed from an ancient cultural perspective they are unable to embrace the unity and diversity of the relationship between God and all the religions of the world, which leads to division, and violence between the religions.

The reality is that the God of all the religions of the world is the same God regardless of the efforts of fallible humans to mold the 'Source' some call God(s) in their own image.

 

[Dawnofhope]

This is my personal belief and I believe my Jewish, Christian, and Muslim brothers and sisters may not agree with me but me being a Muslim, I believe that we do worship the same God and here are my reasons:

1) Jews believe that their God is the God of Moses and Muslims believe in the very same God of Moses.
2) Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God and also part of the Holy Trinity.
3) Muslims (as mentioned in the No. 1) believe in the God of Moses. However, it's mentioned in the Qur'an that not only Jesus is a Prophet but God denied the idea of Him having a son nor being part of the Holy Trinity.

So based on my points in the above, my logic is this:

For example, I'm one of your colleagues in an organisation. A group from Finance believe that I am happily married with kids. Another group Procurement believe that I'm currently dating with someone from the company and the last group from HR thinks I am just single.

Ultimately, these are just assumptions (beliefs) made by them but all of them are still referring to the same person i.e. me.

Similarly, in the context of the Abrahamic faiths at least, I think we do worship the same God. It's just that our attributes for Him are slightly different.

That's just me. What do you guys think?

Looking forward to your responses.

Shalom Aleichem, Assalamualaikum.

There's only One God in my Abrahamic Faith and the God of the Jews, Christians, and Muslims have too much in common to be different Gods according to the Baha'i Faith. Of course many of the diehard followers of each faith will insist otherwise. You may even encounter a few on this forum lol.

 

[Jumi]

Less separation is more peace.

 

[Cooky]

This is my personal belief and I believe my Jewish, Christian, and Muslim brothers and sisters may not agree with me but me being a Muslim, I believe that we do worship the same God and here are my reasons:

1) Jews believe that their God is the God of Moses and Muslims believe in the very same God of Moses.
2) Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God and also part of the Holy Trinity.
3) Muslims (as mentioned in the No. 1) believe in the God of Moses. However, it's mentioned in the Qur'an that not only Jesus is a Prophet but God denied the idea of Him having a son nor being part of the Holy Trinity.

So based on my points in the above, my logic is this:

For example, I'm one of your colleagues in an organisation. A group from Finance believe that I am happily married with kids. Another group Procurement believe that I'm currently dating with someone from the company and the last group from HR thinks I am just single.

Ultimately, these are just assumptions (beliefs) made by them but all of them are still referring to the same person i.e. me.

Similarly, in the context of the Abrahamic faiths at least, I think we do worship the same God. It's just that our attributes for Him are slightly different.

That's just me. What do you guys think?

Looking forward to your responses.

Shalom Aleichem, Assalamualaikum.

Yes, we all do worship the same God.

...But it doesn't matter. We're in this world to live amongst all people as a human family, and to treat the non-believer as our brother, because he is.

 

[Flankerl]

No for that the differences are too big and God would be quite the liar.

 

[wizanda]

What do you guys think?

The Quran is referring to Allah being the God Most High; which Biblically is the father of YHVH/Yeshua.

In my opinion.

 

[shunyadragon]

No for that the differences are too big and God would be quite the liar.

Fortunately it is not God, but mischievous fallible manipulative humans that are liars. Relying on ancient scripture that is thousands of years old, with a heavy dose of added pagan mythology and edited many times is not the standard to judge nor describe God,

 

[shunyadragon]

The Quran is referring to Allah being the God Most High; which Biblically is the father of YHVH/Yeshua.

In my opinion.

Allah or God is the Father of all Creation and humanity regardless.

 

[shunyadragon]

Yes, we all do worship the same God.

...But it doesn't matter. We're in this world to live amongst all people as a human family, and to treat the non-believer as our brother, because he is.

Actually, I agree to some extent, but your Roman Church does not.

 

[Flankerl]

Fortunately it is not God, but mischievous fallible manipulative humans that are liars. Relying on ancient scripture that is thousands of years old, with a heavy dose of added pagan mythology and edited many times is not the standard to judge nor describe God,

But let me guess, your version is the unedited one.

I am already yawning.

 

[Cooky]

Actually, I agree to some extent, but your Roman Church does not.

Well, I learned it from Catholics, and the pope does not defend Catholics, so I have to disagree.

...The Catholic Church is not a club or a legion. It's a personal spiritual path with extra benefits... It takes many years and much insight to come to figure that out.

 

[shunyadragon]

If the god's attributes are all different, then the god is not the same. If we were both talking about a bird and you described it as black, small and making a screeching sound, and I described it as large, fluffy, brown and making a sweeter sound, it is clear that, while we both may be describing a bird, we are not describing the same bird, since one is a crow and the other an owl.

If you wish to make an analogy concerning birds and God it is best to describe the diversity of the 'human views of God' as the immense diversity of the kingdom of birds.

 

[Flankerl]

Fortunately it is not God, but mischievous fallible manipulative humans that are liars. Relying on ancient scripture that is thousands of years old, with a heavy dose of added pagan mythology and edited many times is not the standard to judge nor describe God,

But let me guess, your version is the unedited one.

I am already yawning.

 

[shunyadragon]

Well, I learned it from Catholics, and the pope does not defend Catholics, so I have to disagree.

...The Catholic Church is not a club or a legion. It's a personal spiritual path with extra benefits.

What you are describing is a personal journey and not that described specifically as the doctrine and dogma of the Roman Church I was raised and taught in the Catechism, and my journey is over fifty years of sincere search and study . This is that there is 'No Salvation Outside What is defined as the Roman Church.' (Extra ecclesiam nulla salus). Based on the belief in Universal Salvation in the Roman Church no one is condemned regardless of what they believe because Salvation is possible 'up until the moment of death.' Knowledge of the 'One True Church,' and the 'Salvation through Jesus Christ only' lies at the heart of the beliefs of the Roman Church, and the Catechism is uncompromising specific on this. The Roman Church puts a lot of emphasis on sincerity of belief and following the Catechism in the church, and sincerity outside the church for those with no knowledge of the church.

It is acknowledged in the Roman Church that the sincere with no knowledge of the 'One True Church' and Jesus Christ, and those below the age of consent may be saved by the Grace of God based on the concept of the potential of Universal Salvation..

 

[shunyadragon]

But let me guess, your version is the unedited one.

I am already yawning.

Based on more than fifty years of study of the scriptures of Judaism and Christianity I have found no evidence of any first author unedited versions of the text as we know it today in the various versions and translations,