I can't stand 9/11 conspiracy debunkers

[Revoltingest]

It's been a while, but when I visited the WTC, I remember it being pretty open. It wasn't like some top secret government installation. Thousands of people going in and out every day. How difficult would it be for a small group to slip their way in?

True, if they had to spend any length of time there, they might be noticed, but if all they had to do was plant a few bombs on a single floor, how much time would that take? If anyone asks questions, they could just bluff their way through. ("Oh, we have authorization to work here from Mr. Revoltingest." Once they hear that, then they'd say "Oh well, if Mr. Revoltingest says it's okay, then okay.")

The conspiracy theorists aren't talking about planting a few bombs.
It's controlled demolition. That typically requires structural modification,
many many explosives, & wires linking them all to a control system which
times each explosive. In much smaller buildings, this takes weeks of
work.
Maintenance staff was unaware?
Management was unaware?
Not a single tenant noticed it & complained?

They can't sell this fantasy to a commercial landlord.

 

[Stevicus]

The conspiracy theorists aren't talking about planting a few bombs.
It's controlled demolition. That typically requires structural modification,
many many explosives, & wires linking them all to a control system which
times each explosive. In much smaller buildings, this takes weeks of
work.
Maintenance staff was unaware?
Management was unaware?
Not a single tenant noticed it & complained?

They can't sell this fantasy to a commercial landlord.

Well, at least according to the official version, they took it out in a matter of minutes. Granted, they had a much bigger bomb, but isn't that what it's about? Planting big enough bombs in the right spots, at least enough for one floor to collapse? If there was a team of military demolitions experts who were assigned the task of destroying the building in any quick and dirty way possible, then couldn't they take some shortcuts if they had bigger bombs to work with? They can blow up buildings rather quickly, can't they? They've done it before.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, at least according to the official version, they took it out in a matter of minutes. Granted, they had a much bigger bomb, but isn't that what it's about? Planting big enough bombs in the right spots, at least enough for one floor to collapse? If there was a team of military demolitions experts who were assigned the task of destroying the building in any quick and dirty way possible, then couldn't they take some shortcuts if they had bigger bombs to work with? They can blow up buildings rather quickly, can't they? They've done it before.

Controlled demolition, which the conspiracy theorists claim, is a much more time consuming process.
A few large bombs wouldn't mimic the pancaking floor to floor scenario.
Moreover, it doesn't always go as planned, eg, the Pontiac MI Silverdome.
To go off without a hitch, without a massive number of wires leading to
control centers for the buildings? Nah.

 

[dfnj]

The buildings falling at free fall speed can only be done by controlled demolition. The buildings would not have fell so symmetrical otherwise. They would have toppled over, crumpled, or took days to fully collapse. It was controlled demolition because that's what was needed to get American into an endless war in the Middle East. A cabal of military industrialists had the means and the motive. Osama Bin Laden and all the Saudi "pilots" were CIA patsies.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The buildings falling at free fall speed can only be done by controlled demolition. The buildings would not have fell so symmetrical otherwise. They would have toppled over, crumpled, or took days to fully collapse. It was controlled demolition because that's what was needed to get American into an endless war in the Middle East. A cabal of military industrialists had the means and the motive. Osama Bin Laden and all the Saudi "pilots" were CIA patsies.

Yet the experts who know best disagree with you.

What makes you an authority? When one asks actual demolition experts very few are Troofers.

 

[Augustus]

A few large bombs wouldn't mimic the pancaking floor to floor scenario.

The video of the collapse also doesn't even resemble a controlled explosion pancaking floor to floor. It resembles what I assume would be a building that collapses at the point it was hit by a plane.

 

[Revoltingest]

The video of the collapse also doesn't even resemble a controlled explosion pancaking floor to floor. It resembles what I assume would be a building that collapses at the point it was hit by a plane.

Not just any building, but one with a structure vulnerable to that particular failure mode.

 

[dfnj]

Yet the experts who know best disagree with you.

What makes you an authority? When one asks actual demolition experts very few are Troofers.

Just looking at the video evidence with my own eyes. I've listen to the arguments from the so called "experts" and it's not supported by good science. Newton's third law is not going away.

Why do you care? You've posted 80 times in this thread. What is your motivation?

 

[dfnj]

The video of the collapse also doesn't even resemble a controlled explosion pancaking floor to floor. It resembles what I assume would be a building that collapses at the point it was hit by a plane.

The floors above the point where the planes hit started to disintegrate as the building was falling. Use your eyes.

Some people absolutely refuse to believe any narrative only than the official conspiracy theory. The official conspiracy theory is just unbelievable.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Just looking at the video evidence with my own eyes. I've listen to the arguments from the so called "experts" and it's not supported by good science. Newton's third law is not going away.

Why do you care? You've posted 80 times in this thread. What is your motivation?

But you have terrible judgement when it comes to matters that you have no education at all in.

Nor do you even seem to understand the concept of evidence.

 

[dfnj]

But you have terrible judgement when it comes to matters that you have no education at all in.

Nor do you even seem to understand the concept of evidence.

I disagree with your opinions. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn't automatically make them wrong. Maybe you need to rethink the evidence as interpreted by other experts you refuse to accept as being experts.

Regardless, why do you continue to post non-stop to this thread? Why do you care if people have different conspiracy theories than your official one? WHY? WHY? WHY?

 

[dfnj]

Great commentary on our over response to what happened on 9/11:

 

[dfnj]

The laws of physics were suspended on 9/11:

This best describes the NIST model on WTC 7:

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla

 

[dfnj]

The laws of physics were suspended on 9/11:

This best describes the NIST model on WTC 7:

"Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality." Nikola Tesla

This was the best video I've seen on showing 9/11 collapse experiments.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I disagree with your opinions. Just because someone has a different opinion than you doesn't automatically make them wrong. Maybe you need to rethink the evidence as interpreted by other experts you refuse to accept as being experts.

Regardless, why do you continue to post non-stop to this thread? Why do you care if people have different conspiracy theories than your official one? WHY? WHY? WHY?

You have mere opinions. I have concepts that have been tested and confirmed. When one side of an argument avoids peer review it is almost a sure sign that they know that they are wrong.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This was the best video I've seen on showing 9/11 collapse experiments.

Really? A video that openly lies in the first two minutes is your favorite? You do yourself no favors with that declaration.

 

[Subduction Zone]

This was the best video I've seen on showing 9/11 collapse experiments.

Really? A video that openly lies in the first two minutes is your favorite? You do yourself no favors with that declaration.

 

[dfnj]

Really? A video that openly lies in the first two minutes is your favorite? You do yourself no favors with that declaration.

Lol? What lie?

Did you see how much time the guy put into building the experiments in the middle and end of the video? It's amazing how much time he put into these demonstrations.

Regardless of your opinions, Newtons 3rd law of motion will not go away.

 

[dfnj]

You have mere opinions. I have concepts that have been tested and confirmed. When one side of an argument avoids peer review it is almost a sure sign that they know that they are wrong.

Lol! I have concepts too that have been tested and confirmed. You are not winning this pissing contest in my opinion.

For a minute I thought you took my advise. Btw, why does this issue matter to you?

 

[dfnj]

Really? A video that openly lies in the first two minutes is your favorite? You do yourself no favors with that declaration.

I watched the video again. I would really like to know what you think is a lie?